Election 2019

[anonymous-user]

Would be a great day to bury bad news!

[djohnson]

YouTalkinToMe said:

Could we be close to Corbyn resigning soon?

I do hope so.

Yep but don’t get your hopes up, the hard left still own Labour and are already positioning to ensure they can install their preferred candidate as leader. I think a more plausible leader even with the same nutty hard left policies would be a far greater risk, it’s Corbyn rather than their ideology which is making them unelectable (even though we know Socialism is flawed, many don’t recognise this).

[230TE]

I.ve had enough politics to last me the rest of my life. I'm all politicked out. Now hoping for a decent Conservative majority so that all the politicians can clear off back to Westminster and stop pestering us for the next five years. (Also it would be nice to see some of the more spiteful and unpleasant Labour trolls on here get their arses handed to them, but that.s just a fringe benefit.)

[MellowshipSlinky]

Drihump Trolomite said:

Dedications what you need

Lost on some of the younger members...

[anarki]

I predict a slim Tory majority but wouldn't be surprised to see another hung parliament.

I believe that Labour have been underestimated in this election. There have been an awful lot of under 35 voter registrations this time around and from what studies have shown, younger voters tend to lean towards Labour/Lib Dem.

There has been talk throughout the campaign about tactical voting (from both sides if you count the Brexit Party) and its obvious its a two horse race at this point. Not that anyone doubted that anyway.

Trying to be as unbiased as possible and from what I've seen on the media (not that I trust them) the Tories haven't had the best campaign and there has been controversy surrounding the NHS and Bojo hiding in a fridge the other day when the Good Morning Britain film crew asked him a question, etc. I do think that will damage the Tories despite the media saying otherwise.

Not that I feel I have to say this but I'm not a fan of any of the leaders to be honest but if I ask myself "Ignoring the medias vilification of JC, what do I actually dislike about him or his policies" I could only truthfully answer I dislike his on the fenceness about some key issues - Brexit being on of them.

I don't trust the Tories to not privatise parts of the NHS and the NHS is important. I'm lucky that I have private medical health care through a works policy but for many people that simply isn't an option. Rail fare is hugely expensive for a lot of people - again I believe it should be nationalised, along with key essential services.

I didn't think I'd being saying this but I've been undecided on who to vote for up until now, but from a parties point of view I favour Labour so I expect I'd vote for them to be honest, despite the media telling me that JC is a "terrorist sympathiser, anti semite, etc, etc"

[gazza285]

Not keen on the Conservatives, or the LibDems, but there is no way I can bring myself to vote for Labour with that front bench. Spoiled ballot paper again.

[98elise]

anarki said:

I predict a slim Tory majority but wouldn't be surprised to see another hung parliament.

I believe that Labour have been underestimated in this election. There have been an awful lot of under 35 voter registrations this time around and from what studies have shown, younger voters tend to lean towards Labour/Lib Dem.

There has been talk throughout the campaign about tactical voting (from both sides if you count the Brexit Party) and its obvious its a two horse race at this point. Not that anyone doubted that anyway.

Trying to be as unbiased as possible and from what I've seen on the media (not that I trust them) the Tories haven't had the best campaign and there has been controversy surrounding the NHS and Bojo hiding in a fridge the other day when the Good Morning Britain film crew asked him a question, etc. I do think that will damage the Tories despite the media saying otherwise.

Not that I feel I have to say this but I'm not a fan of any of the leaders to be honest but if I ask myself "Ignoring the medias vilification of JC, what do I actually dislike about him or his policies" I could only truthfully answer I dislike his on the fenceness about some key issues - Brexit being on of them.

I don't trust the Tories to not privatise parts of the NHS and the NHS is important. I'm lucky that I have private medical health care through a works policy but for many people that simply isn't an option. Rail fare is hugely expensive for a lot of people - again I believe it should be nationalised, along with key essential services.

I didn't think I'd being saying this but I've been undecided on who to vote for up until now, but from a parties point of view I favour Labour so I expect I'd vote for them to be honest, despite the media telling me that JC is a "terrorist sympathiser, anti semite, etc, etc"

Surely you can decide for yourself if he is a terrorist sympathiser just by looking at his actions.

Cutting rail fares is just asking someone else to pay.

Parts of the NHS are already privatised, under both Labour and Tory governments. There is nothing wrong with that if it's cheaper.

I can't see how anyone can vote for a party that will expropriate people's assets. I stand to lose a huge proportion of my life's savings on one policy alone.

[Johnnytheboy]

230TE said:

(Also it would be nice to see some of the more spiteful and unpleasant Labour trolls on here get their arses handed to them, but that.s just a fringe benefit.)

They are only nasty because they know their man can't win. Cut them some slack.

[Digga]

230TE said:

I.ve had enough politics to last me the rest of my life. I'm all politicked out.

Me too.

Having been a avid reader of all things economics for years, the lack of understanding and the spin and misinformation has driven me mad.

Just a selection from the bookshelf I've read recently:



It is interesting and important to note that none of these authors are what would be regarded 'right wing' but all of them would be at odds with much of what the present Labour party are proposing.

I do not seek out authors on the basis of their political leanings, but rather the quality of their content. I don't end up agreeing will everything I read, but I do get an understanding, nonetheless, of a theory that is (usually) well reasoned and clearly explained. The lack of substance and rigor in much of what is thrown around social media is staggering and depressing.

[Garvin]

anarki said:

I predict a slim Tory majority but wouldn't be surprised to see another hung parliament.

I believe that Labour have been underestimated in this election. There have been an awful lot of under 35 voter registrations this time around and from what studies have shown, younger voters tend to lean towards Labour/Lib Dem.

There has been talk throughout the campaign about tactical voting (from both sides if you count the Brexit Party) and its obvious its a two horse race at this point. Not that anyone doubted that anyway.

Trying to be as unbiased as possible and from what I've seen on the media (not that I trust them) the Tories haven't had the best campaign and there has been controversy surrounding the NHS and Bojo hiding in a fridge the other day when the Good Morning Britain film crew asked him a question, etc. I do think that will damage the Tories despite the media saying otherwise.

Not that I feel I have to say this but I'm not a fan of any of the leaders to be honest but if I ask myself "Ignoring the medias vilification of JC, what do I actually dislike about him or his policies" I could only truthfully answer I dislike his on the fenceness about some key issues - Brexit being on of them.

I don't trust the Tories to not privatise parts of the NHS and the NHS is important. I'm lucky that I have private medical health care through a works policy but for many people that simply isn't an option. Rail fare is hugely expensive for a lot of people - again I believe it should be nationalised, along with key essential services.

I didn't think I'd being saying this but I've been undecided on who to vote for up until now, but from a parties point of view I favour Labour so I expect I'd vote for them to be honest, despite the media telling me that JC is a "terrorist sympathiser, anti semite, etc, etc"

Bristol is a bit of a Labour hub. Despite the forced conversion from diesel to petrol for the city living folk which will only help, along with the Chinese, to accelerate global warming!

Interesting that you say the media are telling you about JC, almost as if you don’t believe the mountains of hard evidence that exist. Therefore, I can only draw the conclusion that you, too, sympathise with terrorists and are anti-Semitic or just don’t care.

[ben5575]

bobbo89 said:

Con majority, maybe as high as 50 is my bet with them taking big numbers in Northern England.

I agree on Con majority although a more modest one at around 30-40. I also agree that they'll make good gains in Northern England, but it'll be tempered by losses in the south.

After 10 years of Tory government, my public services have been slashed, my kids are educated in an class of 40, in a school that is falling down, I have been aggressively targeted for tax, public transport is a disgrace, the NHS is dysfunctional and poverty is rife.

Apparently the way to take responsibility this is to hide in a fridge. Add in Raab and Gove and there is no way I could ever vote Tory.

Corbyn. So obviously no Labour vote either.

So today will be either Lib Dems or Greens. What a sorry state of affairs.

[V8covin]

For only the 2nd time in my life I'm not voting....1st time was when I'd moved away and hadn't requested a postal vote in time.
So that's 40 years of being eligible to vote.
Why ?
I can't vote for that buffoon Boris and his watered down Brexit.
I can't vote for that commie Corbyn and insane policies.
I can't vote for Lib Dems as they believe in pretty much everything I don't.
I can't vote for the Brexit party since Farage waved the white flag.
I despise everything about British politics at the moment.

[bitchstewie]

ben5575 said:

I agree on Con majority although a more modest one at around 30-40. I also agree that they'll make good gains in Northern England, but it'll be tempered by losses in the south.

After 10 years of Tory government, my public services have been slashed, my kids are educated in an class of 40, in a school that is falling down, I have been aggressively targeted for tax, public transport is a disgrace, the NHS is dysfunctional and poverty is rife.

Apparently the way to take responsibility this is to hide in a fridge. Add in Raab and Gove and there is no way I could ever vote Tory.

Corbyn. So obviously no Labour vote either.

So today will be either Lib Dems or Greens. What a sorry state of affairs.

Similar views here.

Where I live was a 60% Conservative vote last time so other than feeling I've done my little bit it has naff all impact.

[chrispmartha]

230TE said:

I.ve had enough politics to last me the rest of my life. I'm all politicked out. Now hoping for a decent Conservative majority so that all the politicians can clear off back to Westminster and stop pestering us for the next five years. (Also it would be nice to see some of the more spiteful and unpleasant Labour trolls on here get their arses handed to them, but that.s just a fringe benefit.)

There’s been some pretty poor stuff from both sides if you take your blinkers off.

[Blue62]

230TE said:

I.ve had enough politics to last me the rest of my life. I'm all politicked out. Now hoping for a decent Conservative majority so that all the politicians can clear off back to Westminster and stop pestering us for the next five years. (Also it would be nice to see some of the more spiteful and unpleasant Labour trolls on here get their arses handed to them, but that.s just a fringe benefit.)

I agree on the point about politics, I think the campaigns have dragged the country even further into the gutter. I can’t think of a time when none of the main parties has held so little appeal and their leaders even less. In terms of your fringe benefit, I just don’t get that, especially on PH where it seems there are some seriously unsavoury types on all sides. I can’t see past a Tory majority, but as a one nation Tory I am holding my nose today.

[Jordan210]

Good to see the tin foil hats out so early on, on social media.

Use pens is the current hashtag I think the other hashtag of penisbest is better.

[Jonny_]

Cast my tactical vote this morning.

I dislike the current iterations of both main parties immensely, but this is a two horse race and IMO the best outcome is a hung parliament. The thought of either Boris' or Jeremy's lot having a working majority horrifies me.

Living in an area that has been a safe Tory seat over the past few elections, I've held my nose and voted Labour.

(A decision aided by the fact that the local Tory MP is a useless, spineless toad of a man whose sole aim is to ingratiate himself to whoever happens to be leading the party at the time.)

[turbobloke]

Digga said:

The lack of substance and rigor in much of what is thrown around social media is staggering and depressing.

The only sight I get of the aforementioned dreck is from posts on PH which refer to Twitter or Facebook or similar, as I don't have a Facebook account, nor Instagram, likewise Snapchat, and I don't tweet. These can be forces for good; as yet nothing I've seen has changed my view that they're a waste of time.

Take today, after battling through a blizzard and deep snow drifts to be one of the few Conservative voters reaching a polling station, exactly as foretold by folks who don't support Labour, actually, it was thanks to SM on PH that I had snow gear ready.

Waddle, quack, mallard.

[egor110]

98elise said:

Surely you can decide for yourself if he is a terrorist sympathiser just by looking at his actions.

Cutting rail fares is just asking someone else to pay.

Parts of the NHS are already privatised, under both Labour and Tory governments. There is nothing wrong with that if it's cheaper.

I can't see how anyone can vote for a party that will expropriate people's assets. I stand to lose a huge proportion of my life's savings on one policy alone.

Re the railfares , surely the conservative pledge of lower tax rates means somebody else has to pay or things are underfunded ?

[turbobloke]

egor110 said:

98elise said:

Surely you can decide for yourself if he is a terrorist sympathiser just by looking at his actions.

Cutting rail fares is just asking someone else to pay.

Parts of the NHS are already privatised, under both Labour and Tory governments. There is nothing wrong with that if it's cheaper.

I can't see how anyone can vote for a party that will expropriate people's assets. I stand to lose a huge proportion of my life's savings on one policy alone.

Re the railfares , surely the conservative pledge of lower tax rates means somebody else has to pay or things are underfunded ?

Not if the economy does well enough and the overall tax-take increases.