Nigel Farage Launches New Brexit Party (Vol. 2)
Discussion
Blue62 said:
crankedup said:
Depends upon who has written the material to which you may aspire, we all as individuals have built in prejudices formed upon our past life experience, that much I can agree.. Not easy to unpick. We could easily apply the ‘learned behaviour’ to the thinking that the EU is the saviour, as many people seem to adopt. It is of course simply a political project one of many over the centuries which has grown and u.timately failed. People are tribal and until that instinct is extinguished attempts to mould belief into one thought pattern will never be successful, thankfully.
I respect your point and your view, but I can’t agree with your conclusion. We may be tribal but our well being and betterment is better achieved through cooperation, understanding and harmony. Learning to coexist and benefit from different cultures is a better future and has proved to be a better past. The natural extension, I would contend, of an ever narrowing society is intolerance, ignorance and ultimately fascism. I don’t think for one minute that you desire any such thing, but that’s how I see things developing as we leave. Just my view and no more or less valid than yours. I have to disagree that the U.K. population will become isolated as a people once we leave the EU.
The U.K. will still be open to migrants from the World over, but will control who is coming in based upon skills requirements within the various work sectors. I see absolutely zero reason to imagine isolation.
We will still trade of course with the EU and Globally. That will not end, we will still require. lose relationships with our trading partners. We are leaving a political construct, not Europe.
Anyway it made a pleasant change to read of a varying opinion to mine without resorting to glib remarks.
We will not agree politically but that does not make us enemies, I hope.
DeepEnd said:
I aimed it at your level, which I thought you'd appreciate.
You don't counter the key argument - also made clearly by bhStewie above.
There isn't a reason to tolerate & support the racism that Farage pumps out, is there?
Do you agree with that, or will I get another ad hom? Should be easy to agree as you are no Farage supporter, are you?
I knew it was a mistake trying to have a sensible discussion with you, you are incapable of appreciating nuances.You don't counter the key argument - also made clearly by bhStewie above.
There isn't a reason to tolerate & support the racism that Farage pumps out, is there?
Do you agree with that, or will I get another ad hom? Should be easy to agree as you are no Farage supporter, are you?
I don't agree with any racism, from anyone, never have.
I don't support any politician, this isn't sport.
Stay in Bed Instead said:
BigMon said:
I've pointed it out before, but I cannot believe someone who is undoubtedly intelligent and has a high-flying, high-paid career (this is not sarcasm btw) keeps coming back time and again and posts with exactly the same style as before before getting banned again in a few days.
It honestly does beggar belief at the inability to learn from past experience.
PH is like a drug.It honestly does beggar belief at the inability to learn from past experience.
Can't live without it.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Another quality candidate.
https://twitter.com/JennyGilruth/status/1196350318...
Presume this isn't part of the manifesto
https://twitter.com/JennyGilruth/status/1196350318...
Presume this isn't part of the manifesto
bhstewie said:
Another quality candidate.
https://twitter.com/JennyGilruth/status/1196350318...
Presume this isn't part of the manifesto
A perfect example why turning a blind eye and voting "as the ends justifies the means" is not a defensible position.https://twitter.com/JennyGilruth/status/1196350318...
Presume this isn't part of the manifesto
Carefully vetted by Nigel/Tice Ltd to ensure he represents their views - they've had ample chance to put thorough checks in place knowing that they've had a few issues in the past. Like flies to the proverbial.
Is it confirmed this is not a wind up and that is the proper actual candidate? It's almost a parody of pure awfulness.
DeepEnd said:
bhstewie said:
Another quality candidate.
https://twitter.com/JennyGilruth/status/1196350318...
Presume this isn't part of the manifesto
A perfect example why turning a blind eye and voting "as the ends justifies the means" is not a defensible position.https://twitter.com/JennyGilruth/status/1196350318...
Presume this isn't part of the manifesto
Carefully vetted by Nigel/Tice Ltd to ensure he represents their views - they've had ample chance to put thorough checks in place knowing that they've had a few issues in the past. Like flies to the proverbial.
Is it confirmed this is not a wind up and that is the proper actual candidate? It's almost a parody of pure awfulness.
DeepEnd said:
smn159 said:
I don't suppose that views like that are uncommon among Brexit Party supporters. If they screen properly that there wouldn't be many of them left.
At least none of the £25ers are trying to defend his views........that's progress. DeepEnd said:
bhstewie said:
Another quality candidate.
https://twitter.com/JennyGilruth/status/1196350318...
Presume this isn't part of the manifesto
A perfect example why turning a blind eye and voting "as the ends justifies the means" is not a defensible position.https://twitter.com/JennyGilruth/status/1196350318...
Presume this isn't part of the manifesto
Carefully vetted by Nigel/Tice Ltd to ensure he represents their views - they've had ample chance to put thorough checks in place knowing that they've had a few issues in the past. Like flies to the proverbial.
Is it confirmed this is not a wind up and that is the proper actual candidate? It's almost a parody of pure awfulness.
https://www.facebook.com/vrfarrell/posts/102188433...
chrispmartha said:
DeepEnd said:
bhstewie said:
Another quality candidate.
https://twitter.com/JennyGilruth/status/1196350318...
Presume this isn't part of the manifesto
A perfect example why turning a blind eye and voting "as the ends justifies the means" is not a defensible position.https://twitter.com/JennyGilruth/status/1196350318...
Presume this isn't part of the manifesto
Carefully vetted by Nigel/Tice Ltd to ensure he represents their views - they've had ample chance to put thorough checks in place knowing that they've had a few issues in the past. Like flies to the proverbial.
Is it confirmed this is not a wind up and that is the proper actual candidate? It's almost a parody of pure awfulness.
https://www.facebook.com/vrfarrell/posts/102188433...
Fairly certain he’ll have an empty garage and will have never have ventured outside of NP&E
Brooking10 said:
I wonder what his PH username is ?
Fairly certain he’ll have an empty garage and will have never have ventured outside of NP&E
This site would be much improved in my view if the qualification for posting in NP&E was to have at least had at least one multi page thread in Readers cars and preferably one in Homes Gardens and DIY outlining at least one major project.Fairly certain he’ll have an empty garage and will have never have ventured outside of NP&E
Might deter some of the many zealots and nutcases who join up just to push a political agenda.
Someone hacked Arron Banks twitter, and used the account to share the information hidden in the DM's:
https://twitter.com/Arron_banks/status/11967317849...
Who ever it is is doing the lords work this day.
https://twitter.com/Arron_banks/status/11967317849...
Who ever it is is doing the lords work this day.
Edited by DMN on Tuesday 19th November 13:37
DMN said:
Someone hacked Arron Banks twitter, and used the account to share the information hidden in the DM's:
https://twitter.com/Arron_banks/status/11967317849...
However it is is doing the lords work this day.
Depending how this plays out it might deserve a thread of it's own.... Some fairly juicy stuff appearing already. If true, of course.https://twitter.com/Arron_banks/status/11967317849...
However it is is doing the lords work this day.
_dobbo_ said:
DMN said:
Someone hacked Arron Banks twitter, and used the account to share the information hidden in the DM's:
https://twitter.com/Arron_banks/status/11967317849...
However it is is doing the lords work this day.
Depending how this plays out it might deserve a thread of it's own.... Some fairly juicy stuff appearing already. If true, of course.https://twitter.com/Arron_banks/status/11967317849...
However it is is doing the lords work this day.
Tweet from Andy Wigmore seems to suggest the data was genuine
https://twitter.com/andywigmore/status/11967710396...
Part of me does find it amusing that the founder of companies fined £120k for data protection breaches is now complaining about a data protection breach.
https://twitter.com/andywigmore/status/11967710396...
Tweet said:
To anyone who has downloaded @Arron_banks hacked twitter account @carolecadwalla - under the Computer Missuse Act we can and will come after you legally. #JustSaying @kingsleynapley @metpoliceuk @Twitter
The @carolecadwalla mention is probably because she tweeted this - https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/11967544...Part of me does find it amusing that the founder of companies fined £120k for data protection breaches is now complaining about a data protection breach.
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