Nigel Farage Launches New Brexit Party (Vol. 2)

Nigel Farage Launches New Brexit Party (Vol. 2)

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El stovey

29,084 posts

211 months

Sunday 17th November
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james_GTI said:
BigMon said:
I've pointed it out before, but I cannot believe someone who is undoubtedly intelligent and has a high-flying, high-paid career (this is not sarcasm btw) keeps coming back time and again and posts with exactly the same style as before before getting banned again in a few days.

It honestly does beggar belief at the inability to learn from past experience.
Nothing to do with 'learning from experience'. Returning members get re-banned regardless, nothing to do with their posting style.

It's just a shame that the mods seem to accept the same or similar posting style from some people and not others. Likewise, it's a shame that some members are prepared to accept consistent abusive posts from those that broadly share their viewpoint but don;t apply the same rules for those that don't.

However, if the mods can choose when to apply the rules and when to ignore them, then so can (ex)members...

Edited by james_GTI on Sunday 17th November 17:38
Why on earth do you think loads of posters recognise you whenever you keep rejoining?

gooner1

7,850 posts

127 months

Sunday 17th November
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El stovey said:
Who were you before?

It’s like bash a mole with all these returning ex banned Farage/UKIP/brexit party supporters who seem to be bearing a grudge from the moment they turn up.

Maybe you’re another of gooner’s creations. hehe
You have too much faith and pay too much attention to the contents of my pants.

How's you're mate BanjoEddie? biggrin

james_GTI

26 posts

1 month

Sunday 17th November
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El stovey said:
Why on earth do you think loads of posters recognise you whenever you keep rejoining?
You mean like we all recognised ///adj / Gloria / Deepend ??

Whenever a 'new' member posts in this sub-forum, the usual suspects are immediately accusing them of being returned banned members.

Challenging people who make offensive claims that aren't supported by evidence shouldn't be such a problem.

Edited by james_GTI on Sunday 17th November 17:49

DeepEnd

2,186 posts

14 months

Sunday 17th November
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jsf said:
DeepEnd said:
We just disagree. That's allowed. Some like to use the excuse that "the ends justifies the means", but others will take the view that you have to be morally bankrupt, stupid or a racist yourself to support a racist like Nigel with his posters, AfD associations and the link - no matter what the cause.

It isn't rocket science at all, no. The intent of his poster was blatant, crystal clear. Give him a pass for that and you are complicit.

Brexit is not a reason to tolerate a racism from the likes of Farage, is it? There are no acceptable reasons to tolerate racism.
Your first two paras are student politics levels of debate.
Your last, there you go again about racists.
I aimed it at your level, which I thought you'd appreciate.

You don't counter the key argument - also made clearly by bhStewie above.

There isn't a reason to tolerate & support the racism that Farage pumps out, is there?

Do you agree with that, or will I get another ad hom? Should be easy to agree as you are no Farage supporter, are you?

Brooking10

7,297 posts

89 months

Sunday 17th November
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james_GTI said:
Nothing to do with 'learning from experience'. Returning members get re-banned regardless, nothing to do with their posting style.

It's just a shame that the mods seem to accept the same or similar posting style from some people and not others. Likewise, it's a shame that some members are prepared to accept consistent abusive posts from those that broadly share their viewpoint but don;t apply the same rules for those that don't.

However, if the mods can choose when to apply the rules and when to ignore them, then so can (ex)members...

Edited by james_GTI on Sunday 17th November 17:38
How many goes have you had so far James ?



james_GTI

26 posts

1 month

Sunday 17th November
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Brooking10 said:
How many goes have you had so far James ?
I've lost count.

El stovey

29,084 posts

211 months

Sunday 17th November
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james_GTI said:
El stovey said:
Why on earth do you think loads of posters recognise you whenever you keep rejoining?
You mean like we all recognised ///adj / Gloria / Deepend ??

Whenever a 'new' member posts in this sub-forum, the usual suspects are immediately accusing them of being returned banned members.
Sidicks, are you thick?

Why keep rejoining a forum and immediately make yourself recognised by being the same antagonistic poster that got you banned about twenty times, is it a compulsive disorder or something?

If you like posting here and want to join in, then just don’t argue about brexit and politics and launch straight into your old online “enemies” and nobody will recognise you within 2 minutes of rejoining.


Brooking10

7,297 posts

89 months

Sunday 17th November
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El stovey said:
Sidicks, are you thick?

Why keep rejoining a forum and immediately make yourself recognised by being the same antagonistic poster that got you banned about twenty times, is it a compulsive disorder or something?

If you like posting here and want to join in, then just don’t argue about brexit and politics and launch straight into your old online “enemies” and nobody will recognise you within 2 minutes of rejoining.
Oh it’s him, everybody’s favourite frustrated back office pensions chap smile


Doh !



james_GTI

26 posts

1 month

Sunday 17th November
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El stovey said:
Sidicks, are you thick?

Why keep rejoining a forum and immediately make yourself recognised by being the same antagonistic poster that got you banned about twenty times, is it a compulsive disorder or something?
1. I've not be banned twenty times for being antagonistic. I've been banned once for which I never received a reason. The other times it has purely been as a returning banned member, regardless of what I posted.

2. Other people have been equally or more antagonistic - making direct attacks on other members (not on other member's opinions) and have repeatedly broken posting rules - but have not been banned. I'm simply pointing out the inconsistency. smile






Edited by james_GTI on Sunday 17th November 18:02

james_GTI

26 posts

1 month

Sunday 17th November
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Brooking10 said:
Oh it’s him, everybody’s favourite frustrated back office pensions chap smile


Doh !
Wrong again. I have nothing to do with 'back office pensions'.

El stovey

29,084 posts

211 months

Sunday 17th November
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james_GTI said:
El stovey said:
Sidicks, are you thick?

Why keep rejoining a forum and immediately make yourself recognised by being the same antagonistic poster that got you banned about twenty times, is it a compulsive disorder or something?
1. I've not be banned twenty times for being antagonistic. I've been banned once for which I never received a reason. The other times it has purely been as a returning banned member, regardless of what I posted.

2. Other people have been equally or more antagonistic - making direct attacks on other members (not on other member's opinions) and have repeatedly broken posting rules - but have not been banned. I'm simply pointing out the inconsistency. smile






Edited by james_GTI on Sunday 17th November 18:02
Sidicks, you once argued for 200 pages about whether you were racist or not. Most people would defend themselves once and move on.

Why do you want to keep rejoining?

Do you like it here? If so then just stop arguing pointlessly and change your style.

If you went to see a therapist and told them you keep rejoining a car forum to get the last word in, then they might be able to help you.

james_GTI

26 posts

1 month

Sunday 17th November
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El stovey said:
Sidicks, you once argued for 200 pages about whether you were racist or not. Most people would defend themselves once and move on.
Not true. /adj made some offensive accusations and I sought to defend myself. I have since seen that he thinks everyone is racist though, so not sure it was worth the bother.


El stovey said:
Why do you want to keep rejoining?

Do you like it here? If so then just stop arguing pointlessly and change your style.
Do you tell other people to change their offensive, incitefull posting style, or only just those that don't share your opinions?

El stovey said:
If you went to see a therapist and told them you keep rejoining a car forum to get the last word in, then they might be able to help you.
No need to see a therapist, thanks.

El stovey

29,084 posts

211 months

Sunday 17th November
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james_GTI said:
El stovey said:
Why do you want to keep rejoining?

Do you like it here? If so then just stop arguing pointlessly and change your style.
Do you tell other people to change their offensive, incitefull posting style, or only just those that don't share your opinions?
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You’re a bit of a unique case.

You’re the one that got banned from the forum and keeps rejoining. You then keep getting recognised within minutes of rejoining because you post with such a ‘distinctive’ style and can’t stop arguing.

What do you think will happen?

Don’t you think it’s time to simply move on or if you must rejoin just not post like you do?

The problem isn’t the mods or other posters, it’s you and the way you post.

crankedup

21,894 posts

191 months

Sunday 17th November
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Blue62 said:
crankedup said:
Depends upon who has written the material to which you may aspire, we all as individuals have built in prejudices formed upon our past life experience, that much I can agree.. Not easy to unpick. We could easily apply the ‘learned behaviour’ to the thinking that the EU is the saviour, as many people seem to adopt. It is of course simply a political project one of many over the centuries which has grown and u.timately failed. People are tribal and until that instinct is extinguished attempts to mould belief into one thought pattern will never be successful, thankfully.
I respect your point and your view, but I can’t agree with your conclusion. We may be tribal but our well being and betterment is better achieved through cooperation, understanding and harmony. Learning to coexist and benefit from different cultures is a better future and has proved to be a better past. The natural extension, I would contend, of an ever narrowing society is intolerance, ignorance and ultimately fascism. I don’t think for one minute that you desire any such thing, but that’s how I see things developing as we leave. Just my view and no more or less valid than yours.
I’m not going to disagree with your pov, in fact I would agree with some of the points you raise. But
I have to disagree that the U.K. population will become isolated as a people once we leave the EU.
The U.K. will still be open to migrants from the World over, but will control who is coming in based upon skills requirements within the various work sectors. I see absolutely zero reason to imagine isolation.
We will still trade of course with the EU and Globally. That will not end, we will still require. lose relationships with our trading partners. We are leaving a political construct, not Europe.
Anyway it made a pleasant change to read of a varying opinion to mine without resorting to glib remarks. beer
We will not agree politically but that does not make us enemies, I hope.

jsf

14,618 posts

184 months

Sunday 17th November
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DeepEnd said:
I aimed it at your level, which I thought you'd appreciate.

You don't counter the key argument - also made clearly by bhStewie above.

There isn't a reason to tolerate & support the racism that Farage pumps out, is there?

Do you agree with that, or will I get another ad hom? Should be easy to agree as you are no Farage supporter, are you?
I knew it was a mistake trying to have a sensible discussion with you, you are incapable of appreciating nuances.

I don't agree with any racism, from anyone, never have.

I don't support any politician, this isn't sport.

don'tbesilly

8,715 posts

111 months

Sunday 17th November
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Stay in Bed Instead said:
BigMon said:
I've pointed it out before, but I cannot believe someone who is undoubtedly intelligent and has a high-flying, high-paid career (this is not sarcasm btw) keeps coming back time and again and posts with exactly the same style as before before getting banned again in a few days.

It honestly does beggar belief at the inability to learn from past experience.
PH is like a drug.

Can't live without it.

biggrin
Even the flouncers come back

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https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

citizensm1th

5,352 posts

85 months

Monday 18th November
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james_GTI said:
Brooking10 said:
Oh it’s him, everybody’s favourite frustrated back office pensions chap smile


Doh !
Wrong again. I have nothing to do with 'back office pensions'.
Yes much more like the man from the pru doorstepping grannies for their weekly knock payment

bitchstewie

23,198 posts

158 months

Monday 18th November
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Another quality candidate.

https://twitter.com/JennyGilruth/status/1196350318...

Presume this isn't part of the manifesto yikes

DeepEnd

2,186 posts

14 months

Monday 18th November
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bhstewie said:
Another quality candidate.

https://twitter.com/JennyGilruth/status/1196350318...

Presume this isn't part of the manifesto yikes
A perfect example why turning a blind eye and voting "as the ends justifies the means" is not a defensible position.

Carefully vetted by Nigel/Tice Ltd to ensure he represents their views - they've had ample chance to put thorough checks in place knowing that they've had a few issues in the past. Like flies to the proverbial.

Is it confirmed this is not a wind up and that is the proper actual candidate? It's almost a parody of pure awfulness.

smn159

5,998 posts

165 months

Monday 18th November
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DeepEnd said:
bhstewie said:
Another quality candidate.

https://twitter.com/JennyGilruth/status/1196350318...

Presume this isn't part of the manifesto yikes
A perfect example why turning a blind eye and voting "as the ends justifies the means" is not a defensible position.

Carefully vetted by Nigel/Tice Ltd to ensure he represents their views - they've had ample chance to put thorough checks in place knowing that they've had a few issues in the past. Like flies to the proverbial.

Is it confirmed this is not a wind up and that is the proper actual candidate? It's almost a parody of pure awfulness.
I don't suppose that views like that are uncommon among Brexit Party supporters. If they screen properly that there wouldn't be many of them left.