Nigel Farage Launches New Brexit Party (Vol. 2)

Nigel Farage Launches New Brexit Party (Vol. 2)

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768

5,472 posts

44 months

Friday 20th September
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If only those Brexit party MEPs hadn't abstained, then Iran would really have listened.

smn159

5,998 posts

165 months

Friday 20th September
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768 said:
If only those Brexit party MEPs hadn't abstained, then Iran would really have listened.
Ah, the 'it probably won't succeed so lets not bother trying' argument.

The message sent is that a significant number of British MEPs don't see this as important enough to even vote for.

Contemptible.

768

5,472 posts

44 months

Friday 20th September
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No, it's the it definitely wouldn't succeed and support for the EU is considered damaging, so don't do it argument.

Like jamming toothpicks in your car ignition and twisting because aren't holding the key, it's ok not to try some things that aren't going to work.

smn159

5,998 posts

165 months

Friday 20th September
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768 said:
No, it's the it definitely wouldn't succeed and support for the EU is considered damaging, so don't do it argument.

Like jamming toothpicks in your car ignition and twisting because aren't holding the key, it's ok not to try some things that aren't going to work.
What it does is allow Iran, in the face of any serious diplomatic attempts to free her, to point to this vote as evidence that a significant proportion of the UK\s elected representatives don't give a st, so why should they.

Take your Brexit blinkers off for a second.


768

5,472 posts

44 months

Friday 20th September
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Iran couldn't care less about the vote.

Take your EU blinkers off for a second.

bitchstewie

23,174 posts

158 months

Friday 20th September
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It does seem a bit of a strange thing to not put the interests of a British Citizen first simply to try and score a cheap political point.

Still, I'm sure when you voted for them and gave them money, as many on here did, you knew that's what you would be endorsing and funding.

Well done.

Blue62

4,037 posts

100 months

Friday 20th September
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A strange bag of people in Nigel's private limited company. James Heartfield, from the Revolutionary Communist Party, four members from what was the RCP, parties who defended IRA atrocities and denied the existence of concentration camps run by 'socialist' serbs to incarcerate Bosnian Muslims.

That Farage openly criticises Corbyn for his support of the IRA is another example of his own hypocrisy and a clear indication that he is a symbol of a decline in the standards of public life in this country, where lies are acceptable and conspiracism reigns.

bitchstewie

23,174 posts

158 months

Friday 20th September
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Blue62 said:
A strange bag of people in Nigel's private limited company. James Heartfield, from the Revolutionary Communist Party, four members from what was the RCP, parties who defended IRA atrocities and denied the existence of concentration camps run by 'socialist' serbs to incarcerate Bosnian Muslims.

That Farage openly criticises Corbyn for his support of the IRA is another example of his own hypocrisy and a clear indication that he is a symbol of a decline in the standards of public life in this country, where lies are acceptable and conspiracism reigns.
You're forgetting once again that the votes and the donations only go towards the good stuff.

Not those things.

Down and out

2,023 posts

12 months

Friday 20th September
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768 said:
Iran couldn't care less about the vote.

Take your EU blinkers off for a second.
What's the matter with you man? You have to be outraged, it's the way nowadays.

bitchstewie

23,174 posts

158 months

Friday 20th September
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Down and out said:
What's the matter with you man? You have to be outraged, it's the way nowadays.
The word "outraged" appears once on this thread.

I'm sure you can guess who used it.

768

5,472 posts

44 months

Friday 20th September
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bhstewie said:
Down and out said:
What's the matter with you man? You have to be outraged, it's the way nowadays.
The word "outraged" appears once on this thread.

I'm sure you can guess who used it.
True. The way nowadays is just to think people who hold a different view are contemptible, evil s and fking idiots.

smn159

5,998 posts

165 months

Friday 20th September
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768 said:
True. The way nowadays is just to think people who hold a different view are contemptible, evil s and fking idiots.
Nope - Only those with Ill informed views based on prejudice and general fk witted-ness.

AW111

5,134 posts

81 months

Friday 20th September
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768 said:
True. The way nowadays is just to think people who hold a different view are contemptible, evil s and fking idiots.
If the cap fits...

Murph7355

23,497 posts

204 months

Friday 20th September
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smn159 said:
Ah, the 'it probably won't succeed so lets not bother trying' argument.

... .
It passed didn't it? So I guess we'll see how effective it is.

(When travelling to a home nation when you have dual nationality shouldn't you use that nation's passport? So in essence she was travelling as an Iranian national. The whole situation is bizarre and I can't imagine what she was thinking...).

psi310398

5,305 posts

151 months

Friday 20th September
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Murph7355 said:
It passed didn't it? So I guess we'll see how effective it is.

(When travelling to a home nation when you have dual nationality shouldn't you use that nation's passport? So in essence she was travelling as an Iranian national. The whole situation is bizarre and I can't imagine what she was thinking...).
The government has also been quite clear that it cannot intercede on a dual national's behalf with the second nation. It certainly used to be written inside the old blue passport. I don't have the Euro-floppy one to hand to check if it is still the case but this web page suggests that nothing has changed:

International law allows the authorities of that country to treat you while you are there as if that is your only nationality. The British representative there cannot give you assistance or protection against those authorities.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/british...

Vanden Saab

4,037 posts

22 months

Friday 20th September
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Murph7355 said:
smn159 said:
Ah, the 'it probably won't succeed so lets not bother trying' argument.

... .
It passed didn't it? So I guess we'll see how effective it is.

(When travelling to a home nation when you have dual nationality shouldn't you use that nation's passport? So in essence she was travelling as an Iranian national. The whole situation is bizarre and I can't imagine what she was thinking...).
That Iran follows the same high standards of law and human rights as the UK does?

Troubleatmill

8,191 posts

107 months

Friday 20th September
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Whatever the resolution is, the Brexit Party should abstain.

We are leaving the EU.
And as much as I joke about setting fire alarms off etc etc
We just let the EU get on with it without us.

If we show that we are really keen to vote .... we will never leave.



There is nothing contemptible about it.
If we are leaving - then meddling in their affairs is contemptible.
They will have to deal with the decisions made.
We should not be voting in those decisions.

chrispmartha

5,751 posts

77 months

Friday 20th September
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Troubleatmill said:
Whatever the resolution is, the Brexit Party should abstain.

We are leaving the EU.
And as much as I joke about setting fire alarms off etc etc
We just let the EU get on with it without us.

If we show that we are really keen to vote .... we will never leave.



There is nothing contemptible about it.
If we are leaving - then meddling in their affairs is contemptible.
They will have to deal with the decisions made.
We should not be voting in those decisions.
I’m presuming if they are not going to bother to do the job they were elected to do then they won’t take the salary, expenses and pensions then?

768

5,472 posts

44 months

Friday 20th September
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You seen to have misunderstood the intentions of those who elected them.

chow pan toon

11,657 posts

185 months

Friday 20th September
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chrispmartha said:
Troubleatmill said:
Whatever the resolution is, the Brexit Party should abstain.

We are leaving the EU.
And as much as I joke about setting fire alarms off etc etc
We just let the EU get on with it without us.

If we show that we are really keen to vote .... we will never leave.



There is nothing contemptible about it.
If we are leaving - then meddling in their affairs is contemptible.
They will have to deal with the decisions made.
We should not be voting in those decisions.
I’m presuming if they are not going to bother to do the job they were elected to do then they won’t take the salary, expenses and pensions then?
Doing nothing and taking nothing would make a more powerful statement. Still, we support plenty of shirkers through tax so whats another few dozen?