Nigel Farage Launches New Brexit Party (Vol. 2)

Nigel Farage Launches New Brexit Party (Vol. 2)

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anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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bhstewie said:
Here we go.

Farage promises Reform Party after Brexit

Mr Farage, who has already registered the new party name, said it would "change politics for good".

I wonder if all those £25 donations are transferrable.

Unfortunately it’s a pattern doomed to keep repeating itself.

Form a new party called UKIP, attract reactionaries through rabble rousing and provocative advertising and scare stories about foreigners. Find out your supporters are largely “undesirables” and normal people won’t vote for you. . . . Form a new party called the brexit party . . . .Form a new party called the reform party . . .

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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AW111 said:
With all the sniping at each other, we could pass as UKIP the BP.

I move a leadership spill.
What we need is reform !

DeepEnd

4,240 posts

66 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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bhstewie said:
Here we go.

Farage promises Reform Party after Brexit

Mr Farage, who has already registered the new party name, said it would "change politics for good".

I wonder if all those £25 donations are transferrable.

Surely the PH brexit party fan boys won’t fall for it again?

Will he tell them “this time it won’t be rammed with racists”? They fell for last time, as posts here showed.

Reminds of that Pres. Bush quote about fooling him twice....

Zirconia

36,010 posts

284 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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What is the rate of inflation between scams?

DeepEnd

4,240 posts

66 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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Zirconia said:
What is the rate of inflation between scams?
Perhaps the reform party will be £30. The extra £5 will be announced to cover checks to keep out racists. They won’t actually do any checks like they didn’t for the brexit party and they will still let in the same bunch of hate mongers to represent them as before. It’’ll give the gullible something to brag about though - “see, it’s different this time! That extra £5 proves it! Nigel wouldn’t lie to us!”.

bitchstewie

51,053 posts

210 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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El stovey said:
Unfortunately it’s a pattern doomed to keep repeating itself.

Form a new party called UKIP, attract reactionaries through rabble rousing and provocative advertising and scare stories about foreigners. Find out your supporters are largely “undesirables” and normal people won’t vote for you. . . . Form a new party called the brexit party . . . .Form a new party called the reform party . . .
My guess?

The same 5% that follow Farage around from venture to venture will follow him to this one.

The same vulnerable people that got duped into coughing up to fund those appalling Brexit Party candidates will get duped into funding the Reform Party.

They probably won't see the irony in who they're giving their money to.

vonuber

17,868 posts

165 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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bhstewie said:
Here we go.

Farage promises Reform Party after Brexit

Mr Farage, who has already registered the new party name, said it would "change politics for good".

I wonder if all those £25 donations are transferrable.

Why is he always either photographed in a pub, fishing boat or gold lift with other racists?

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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vonuber said:
Why is he always either photographed in a pub, fishing boat or gold lift with other racists?
It's what the press choose to print. A picture of him on the bog or in his kitchen eating his breakfast isn't normally a stock image the press tend to use for anyone, despite that being what they spend more time doing. biggrin

Jockman

17,917 posts

160 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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The press look for sound bites. Verbal or visual.

Andrew Neil is very good at this.

Best avoided.

Zirconia

36,010 posts

284 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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jsf said:
vonuber said:
Why is he always either photographed in a pub, fishing boat or gold lift with other racists?
It's what the press choose to print. A picture of him on the bog or in his kitchen eating his breakfast isn't normally a stock image the press tend to use for anyone, despite that being what they spend more time doing. biggrin
People still like to control their media. They tell the press where they are and arrange photo ops or release what they like to get around. When he (and other people) know the snappers are around, they try to behave and look the part they want to push.

I expect the press are not normally in his bog. I think he sees the jovial person with a pint and a fag as an image that goes down with his base.


anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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I saw a clip of Farage in a pub or club with some not especially well informed north eastern voters a few weeks ago. Note that I said not well informed. I did not say thick. Farage was pretending to be all matey with people that he evidently despises and takes for fools. It was like watching a wolf prowling around an undefended flock of sheep.

TheRealNoNeedy

15,137 posts

200 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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Breadvan72 said:
I saw a clip of Farage in a pub or club with some not especially well informed north eastern voters a few weeks ago. Note that I said not well informed. I did not say thick. Farage was pretending to be all matey with people that he evidently despises and takes for fools. It was like watching a wolf prowling around an undefended flock of sheep.
Only a fool would make such assumptions, people may vote the way they do because they know something you don't and not necessarily because they don't know something you do

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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I make no such assumptions. The gems of high information on display included comments indicating a belief that the British Empire was still intact and available to fall back post Brexit. Furthermore, no person who is well informed would give a crook like Farage any credibility, let alone fawn on him as that audience did. They are among this huckster's main targets.

TheRealNoNeedy

15,137 posts

200 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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Breadvan72 said:
I make no such assumptions. The gems of high information on display included comments indicating a belief that the British Empire was still intact and available to fall back post Brexit. Furthermore, no person who is well informed would give a crook like Farage any credibility, let alone fawn on him as that audience did. They are among this huckster's main targets.
No biased assumptions detected in that post

Gerradi

1,532 posts

120 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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Jockman said:
The press look for sound bites. Verbal or visual.

Andrew Neil is very good at this.

Best avoided.
" look for sound bites. Verbal ----Best avoided"
yeah ..."Get Brexit Done" nappy rash...

Zirconia

36,010 posts

284 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Gerradi said:
Jockman said:
The press look for sound bites. Verbal or visual.

Andrew Neil is very good at this.

Best avoided.
" look for sound bites. Verbal ----Best avoided"
yeah ..."Get Brexit Done" nappy rash...
Ever clock the way that certain phrases are trotted out when a politician is interviewed? There is a lot of time spent in a room somewhere where they come up with the phrases then they will brief the MP's, push this term, phrase or group of words. Avoid that term, dance around that topic etc.

Then they try to get that set of words out in every sentence or three. "Get Brexit done" is basically "That would be an ecumenical matter" but it has legs and works well for Team Boris and I rather think they used Brexit in a way to purloin it from Nige.

On top of that they will have the bots and troll ready to roll it out on internet, I wonder who has the most traction, the press or social media? The press parrot what the politicians tell them in the main. Facebook and Twitter, more readers perhaps?

Struggling to think what Nige's buzz words are? "Who are you?" I think? Or "mines a pint".


Neil is good at picking through sound bites and pulling them apart.

AW111

9,667 posts

133 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Zirconia said:
Struggling to think what Nige's buzz words are? "Who are you?" I think? Or "mines a pint".
"Show me the money."

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Zirconia said:
Gerradi said:
Jockman said:
The press look for sound bites. Verbal or visual.

Andrew Neil is very good at this.

Best avoided.
" look for sound bites. Verbal ----Best avoided"
yeah ..."Get Brexit Done" nappy rash...
Ever clock the way that certain phrases are trotted out when a politician is interviewed? There is a lot of time spent in a room somewhere where they come up with the phrases then they will brief the MP's, push this term, phrase or group of words. Avoid that term, dance around that topic etc.

Then they try to get that set of words out in every sentence or three. "Get Brexit done" is basically "That would be an ecumenical matter" but it has legs and works well for Team Boris and I rather think they used Brexit in a way to purloin it from Nige.

On top of that they will have the bots and troll ready to roll it out on internet, I wonder who has the most traction, the press or social media? The press parrot what the politicians tell them in the main. Facebook and Twitter, more readers perhaps?

Struggling to think what Nige's buzz words are? "Who are you?" I think? Or "mines a pint".


Neil is good at picking through sound bites and pulling them apart.
Gove and Raab are the worst and most unnatural when adding “get brexit done” into their interviews. It doesn’t suit their style at all.

Maybe that’s why JRM is being hidden away, they heard him say get brexit done.

bitchstewie

51,053 posts

210 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Piha

7,150 posts

92 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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bhstewie said:
Sadly, I'm not surprised.

But I'm sure his brainwashed minions will happily make excuses all day long for this abhorrent pairing.