Boris Johnson- Prime Minister (Vol. 2)
Discussion
DeepEnd said:
What do you think the bus was about?
How many people knew anything about that bus until Leave won, then of course it was all we heard about, how they 'lied on the bus'.Go back through the Brexit posts on here, have a look how many times the bus was mentioned, not a lot until remain tried to say Leave winning was all a stitch up.
Breadvan72 said:
Not tried to say. Said. Still say. It was a stitch up.
As for respecting opposing views (see above), only respectable views are respectable. Made up wibble is not. Also, leavers should not be so snowflaky about being teased for believing six impossible things before breakfast.
It is a shame that remain voters who lost the referendum can’t be better losers and accept their defeat. It must be sad being so fearful of change and unable to let go. As for respecting opposing views (see above), only respectable views are respectable. Made up wibble is not. Also, leavers should not be so snowflaky about being teased for believing six impossible things before breakfast.
Cue 79 pages of remainers posting about how they aren’t really sore losers and they probably would have won if 16 year olds were older and older people were deader or some such wibble.
Edited by Gargamel on Wednesday 20th November 23:33
Breadvan72 said:
Not tried to say. Said. Still say. It was a stitch up.
As for respecting opposing views (see above), only respectable views are respectable. Made up wibble is not. Also, leavers should not be so snowflaky about being teased for believing six impossible things before breakfast.
Yeah, of course you did. As for respecting opposing views (see above), only respectable views are respectable. Made up wibble is not. Also, leavers should not be so snowflaky about being teased for believing six impossible things before breakfast.
I don't need to be 'snowflakey'.....I won.
I agree on the views, that is why you always make me chuckle so much.
You have not stopped wibbling yourself since you woke up that morning and saw you had lost. Bless!
So, so blinkered.
Breadvan72 said:
Cue 97 pages of "Nobody in the UK paid any attention to the bus, all 17.4 million leave voters have or had LSE Doctorates in economics*".
*Cue also 97 pages of "all economists (except Prof Minford) are idiots and the LSE is a Commie conspiracy."
This is PH summarised in 2 sentences.*Cue also 97 pages of "all economists (except Prof Minford) are idiots and the LSE is a Commie conspiracy."
Dont like rolls said:
tangerine_sedge said:
I've not been keeping up with all the threads, but have the PH detectives worked out which returnee banned poster you are?
Can you not answer the above, agree, disregard ? , but no you add in some accusation that is totally off topic.Well done.
Gargamel said:
Breadvan72 said:
Johnson's maths teachers at Eton did not use a blackboard. They put some big made up numbers on the side of a bus. It was the only technique that would work with the Classical scholar.
BTW, Johnson is in effect repeating the bus lies as part of the GE campaign. He reckons that if something works once, try it again.
Cue 97 pages of "Nobody in the UK paid any attention to the bus, all 17.4 million leave voters have or had LSE Doctorates in economics*".
*Cue also 97 pages of "all economists (except Prof Minford) are idiots and the LSE is a Commie conspiracy."
Your contempt of other points of view is really getting quite tiresome. BTW, Johnson is in effect repeating the bus lies as part of the GE campaign. He reckons that if something works once, try it again.
Cue 97 pages of "Nobody in the UK paid any attention to the bus, all 17.4 million leave voters have or had LSE Doctorates in economics*".
*Cue also 97 pages of "all economists (except Prof Minford) are idiots and the LSE is a Commie conspiracy."
What a shame that the campaign group for remain did such an awful job of extolling the many virtues of the EU.
It’s making light of a stupid situation.
DeepEnd said:
What do you think the bus was about?
I’ve wondered if Boris was actually making a more subtle point about public transport and the importance of a good strong bus service and also immigration. I have a coworker who voted for Brexit due to his idea about too many Somalian taxi drivers in his home town of Slough. I wonder if Boris’s message was less about the £350m NHS and more a wolf whistle to people like me coworker about busses displacing the STDs? The bus, the fact check scam, and so on. Hannah Arendt made the point that the aim of the torrent of lies is not to deceive, but to destroy critical thinking, to exhaust analysis, to extinguish the concept of truth itself, and thereby to undermine democracy. It is the populist playbook. Trump does it, Farage does it, Johnson does it, Gove and JRM do it. Corbyn is less good at it, but he tries.
DeepEnd said:
It’s not tiresome it’s amusing.
It’s making light of a stupid situation.
This is cringeworthy. Had any other poster made a remark about the victims of crime along the lines that BV72 did you'd have been all over them like a badly fitting suit. That you then defend the fact that he followed it up with his standard "I was only joking schtick" (as he always does when he goes too far and is rightly called out for it) says quite a lot more about you. It’s making light of a stupid situation.
Breadvan72 said:
The bus, the fact check scam, and so on. Hannah Arendt made the point that the aim of the torrent of lies is not to deceive, but to destroy critical thinking, to exhaust analysis, to extinguish the concept of truth itself, and thereby to undermine democracy. It is the populist playbook. Trump does it, Farage does it, Johnson does it, Gove and JRM do it. Corbyn is less good at it, but he tries.
New Labour and Alistair Cambell invented itBreadvan72 said:
The bus, the fact check scam, and so on. Hannah Arendt made the point that the aim of the torrent of lies is not to deceive, but to destroy critical thinking, to exhaust analysis, to extinguish the concept of truth itself, and thereby to undermine democracy. It is the populist playbook. Trump does it, Farage does it, Johnson does it, Gove and JRM do it. Corbyn is less good at it, but he tries.
A great analogy of it I heard runs thus:you're playing a game of Monopoly - the player who's turn it is rolls a seven but moves eight places. You point this out, they respond by stating they passed go and so are owed £200. You point out that they didn't pass go. They respond by saying they are building a hotel on Mayfiar; you point out that they don't own Mayfair and can't afford a hotel anyway. This goes on and on like this. The result is that you forget that they took eight moves when they only rolled a seven.
Edited by TTwiggy on Thursday 21st November 10:14
Breadvan72 said:
As for respecting opposing views (see above), only respectable views are respectable.
H. L. Mencken said:
We must respect the other fellow’s religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart.
Breadvan72 said:
In UK politics? Maybe Oswald Mosley. Not sure.
Campbell etc did spin. They spun hard and they sailed close to the wind. They told some outright fibs. They did not seek to dismantle the very idea of objective reality in the way that Trump, Farage, Johnson et al do.
Ahh, when the left lie its called "fibs" and its excusable, when the (perceived) right lie its the end of the world and they must be pilloried.Campbell etc did spin. They spun hard and they sailed close to the wind. They told some outright fibs. They did not seek to dismantle the very idea of objective reality in the way that Trump, Farage, Johnson et al do.
Got it.
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