Greta Thunberg is Simpal Cindy?

Greta Thunberg is Simpal Cindy?

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Finlandia

7,803 posts

231 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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Pesty said:
Davos123 said:
Pesty said:
Posting a few memes means I need to calm down? Lol no sorry not happening. The same reason hitler ,Stalin etc etc etc used little girls for their propaganda so nobody would criticise them.

Oh and saint Greta by the way just said this. She’s now talking about executing people can I post pictures now? She still not allowed to be mocked?

Greta Thunberg tells cheering crowd 'we will make sure we put world leaders against the wall' if they do not tackle global warming as she attends climate protest in Turin

And I need to calm down
English is not her first language. She has explained that in Swedish it means to hold accountable.
Ah ha of course and of course you believe the spin, I suppose you also believe she wrote that face saving herself. I get it anything bad she says she didn’t mean. I suppose you’d let off people you don’t agree with so easily.

I think she should be up against a wall too

In the new Swedish sense of course.


Edited by Pesty on Sunday 15th December 13:52
English isn't my first language either, not even the second, yet I know the meaning of those words, just like her ever present father does, and anyone of her assistants, and I dare to say, herself too.

Smiler.

11,752 posts

230 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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Davos123 said:
Pesty said:
Ah ha of course and of course you believe the spin, I suppose you also believe she wrote that face saving herself. I get it anything bad she says she didn’t mean. I suppose you’d let off people you don’t agree with so easily.

I think she should be up against a wall too

In the new Swedish sense of course.


Edited by Pesty on Sunday 15th December 13:52
what's not to believe? Her message has consistently been to hold politicians and the powerful to account and she has never called for violence. It makes far more sense that she simply used unfortunate phrasing, or had heard the English phrase before but had taken it to mean the same as a similar Swedish phrase. I have enough experience with people speaking English as a second language to know these kinds of things happen occasionally. If you look a the full quote it's obvious what she means and it's easy to verify what the saying means in Swedish.

"World leaders are still trying to run away from their responsibilities, but we have to make sure they cannot do that," she said. "We will make sure that we put them against the wall, and they will have to do their job to protect our futures."

Hard to do your job if you've been shot, isn't it?



Davos123

5,966 posts

212 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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Finlandia said:
English isn't my first language either, not even the second, yet I know the meaning of those words, just like her ever present father does, and anyone of her assistants, and I dare to say, herself too.
So we'll just ignore all context and precedent, then. If she was calling for violence, why bother apologising?

Smiler.

11,752 posts

230 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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Davos123 said:
Finlandia said:
English isn't my first language either, not even the second, yet I know the meaning of those words, just like her ever present father does, and anyone of her assistants, and I dare to say, herself too.
So we'll just ignore all context and precedent, then. If she was calling for violence, why bother apologising?
Casual use of inflammatory language, realisation it doesn't look good.

Davos123

5,966 posts

212 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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Smiler. said:
Casual use of inflammatory language, realisation it doesn't look good.
lol ok. She's far more likely to casually use a phrase from her native language than a colloquialism in her second or third. Do you think she genuinely wishes for world leaders to be executed? Apart from this 'slip of the tongue' do you have any other evidence that suggests she feels that way? You're being ridiculous.

Evanivitch

20,072 posts

122 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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Finlandia said:
English isn't my first language either, not even the second, yet I know the meaning of those words, just like her ever present father does, and anyone of her assistants, and I dare to say, herself too.
Do you agree that the English phrase and the direct Swedish translation have very different cultural meanings?

Perhaps because Sweden participate in WW1?

kev1974

4,029 posts

129 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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Smiler. said:
Love that.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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Davos123 said:
Her message has consistently been to hold politicians and the powerful to account
“Her” message?
You genuinely believe it’s her message and not that of the massive unseen PR machine pushing her along?

Smiler.

11,752 posts

230 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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Davos123 said:
Smiler. said:
Casual use of inflammatory language, realisation it doesn't look good.
lol ok. She's far more likely to casually use a phrase from her native language than a colloquialism in her second or third. Do you think she genuinely wishes for world leaders to be executed? Apart from this 'slip of the tongue' do you have any other evidence that suggests she feels that way? You're being ridiculous.
Couple the unfettered hyperbole so ubiquitous these days with the rest of her over-emotive balderdash, it's not beyond the realm of possibility.

You asked the question, I gave an answer.

But then you're a fan so anything other than glowing praise will be ridiculous.

lol

Davos123

5,966 posts

212 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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Smiler. said:
Couple the unfettered hyperbole so ubiquitous these days with the rest of her over-emotive balderdash, it's not beyond the realm of possibility.

You asked the question, I gave an answer.

But then you're a fan so anything other than glowing praise will be ridiculous.

lol
Who says I'm a fan? Pretty ambivalent about the whole thing.

"not beyond the realms of possibility" is a little different from you completely dismissing the perfectly reasonable and obvious explanation brought forward.

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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I suppose complaining about public transport and being ungrateful was just interpretation issues too.


turbobloke

103,942 posts

260 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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Pesty said:
I suppose complaining about public transport and being ungrateful was just interpretation issues too.

That's bratitude for you.

dickymint

24,329 posts

258 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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Dont like rolls said:
Smiler. said:
St Greta might not be politically aligned, but she's getting her advice from somewhere:




I wonder who took the pic.
Corbyn ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FyRU92zeeE

Well he's gonna be seatless soon and maybe not even room on a back bench hehe

Supercilious Sid

2,575 posts

161 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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Langweilig

4,326 posts

211 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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A pearl of wisdom from the Wail.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7794675/G...


" We will make sure we put world leaders against the wall' if they do not tackle global warming". I think absolutely nothing was lost in translation. She meant every word. If you go back to the screech she made at the UN, she said "Our message is that we'll be watching you" and "You come to us young people for hope", She thought that she could raise an army of teenagers to take over the world. She failed - and admitted she failed because he so called "climate strikes don't work".

Edited by Langweilig on Sunday 15th December 18:24

Evanivitch

20,072 posts

122 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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Langweilig said:
A pearl of wisdom from the Wail.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7794675/G...


" We will make sure we put world leaders against the wall' if they do not tackle global warming". I think absolutely nothing was lost in translation. She meant every word. If you go back to the screech she made at the UN, she said "Our message is that we'll be watching you" and "You come to us young people for hope", She thought that she could raise an army of teenagers to take over the world. She failed - and admitted she failed because he so called "climate strikes don't work".

Edited by Langweilig on Sunday 15th December 18:24
About 5 hours late...

As already discussed, the direct translation in Swedish has a different use. Less to do with firing squads, more to do with holding to account.

Bit that's okay, British people have been projecting their interpretation onto foreign cultures for a few hundred years now.

Dont like rolls

3,798 posts

54 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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Evanivitch said:
About 5 hours late...

As already discussed, the direct translation in Swedish has a different use. Less to do with firing squads, more to do with holding to account.

Bit that's okay, British people have been projecting their interpretation onto foreign cultures for a few hundred years now.
....but that is OK because the legacy has been democracy, the rule of law and a firm reliance on educated reason.

Smiler.

11,752 posts

230 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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Evanivitch said:
Langweilig said:
A pearl of wisdom from the Wail.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7794675/G...


" We will make sure we put world leaders against the wall' if they do not tackle global warming". I think absolutely nothing was lost in translation. She meant every word. If you go back to the screech she made at the UN, she said "Our message is that we'll be watching you" and "You come to us young people for hope", She thought that she could raise an army of teenagers to take over the world. She failed - and admitted she failed because he so called "climate strikes don't work".

Edited by Langweilig on Sunday 15th December 18:24
About 5 hours late...

As already discussed, the direct translation in Swedish has a different use. Less to do with firing squads, more to do with holding to account.

Bit that's okay, British people have been projecting their interpretation onto foreign cultures for a few hundred years now.
Yeah, it's not like the good old days.



Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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turbobloke said:
Pesty said:
I suppose complaining about public transport and being ungrateful was just interpretation issues too.

That's bratitude for you.
Don’t you find the framing of the picture interesting.

Perfectly shot, Greta darling look over to the left not the camera. Beautifully done darling.

Now they will see their saviour suffers for them.



biggbn

23,313 posts

220 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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I'm afraid I find it pathetic. The stage management of anything that can score a political point. Why can't people from all sides realise when they stoop to these levels of detached reality, they are dimimishing the message, the problem. People are sick of media manipulation to forward agendas, our recent election being a prime example. You can't go wrong with the truth, it's already happened and people live it. It doesn't need wrapped up in a colourful box and tied with a rainbow of tears.