Lad killed by US wrong side driver, who's done a bunk...

Lad killed by US wrong side driver, who's done a bunk...

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bolidemichael

13,847 posts

201 months

Friday 27th August 2021
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It's so desperately sad and I'm pleased to see that they're inching closer towards some form of justice.

DOCG

561 posts

54 months

Monday 30th August 2021
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I personally think that Americans should not be able to drive in the UK on their US driving license because their driving tests are so easy and as a whole Americans are such poor drivers. It is downright dangerous.

poo at Paul's

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14,146 posts

175 months

Tuesday 21st September 2021
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Resolution reached in the Civil Case, ie they’ve paid up.

Utter scum this woman doing what she did, no doubt pay up and think that’s the end of it.

Mojooo

12,720 posts

180 months

Tuesday 21st September 2021
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Should the parents have accepted a settlement?
If its about the 'principle' - why not get them into court to testify?

Legacywr

12,124 posts

188 months

Tuesday 21st September 2021
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I remember listening to this situation being discussed on R4 a few months ago, it changed my mind as to wether this woman was a or not.

It’s a very sad case indeed, I can imagine this is so awful and tragic for the victims family frown

loafer123

15,440 posts

215 months

Tuesday 21st September 2021
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Mojooo said:
Should the parents have accepted a settlement?
If its about the 'principle' - why not get them into court to testify?
It sounds like settlement in the civil case is a precursor to remote determination of the criminal case with a guilty plea likely.

RizzoTheRat

25,162 posts

192 months

Tuesday 21st September 2021
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Mojooo said:
Should the parents have accepted a settlement?
If its about the 'principle' - why not get them into court to testify?
Presumably because they can't get them in to a court to testify. The US refused extradition.

henrycrun

2,449 posts

240 months

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Tuesday 21st September 2021
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The best outcome for boys family. Now they can try and move on.

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15,225 posts

200 months

Tuesday 21st September 2021
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Tricky one really...I'm guessing it's quite a big pot of money they've settled on, but that bh still walks free. OK to be fair, it's something she will have to live with for the rest of her life, and that can't be easy. I only hope the cash makes their life a little easier, and at least it's something better than nothing.

g4ry13

16,984 posts

255 months

Tuesday 21st September 2021
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Hopefully they got enough so that Sacoolas suffers as a result. I suspect that it will not be the case and something she will quickly forget.

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Tuesday 21st September 2021
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g4ry13 said:
Hopefully they got enough so that Sacoolas suffers as a result. I suspect that it will not be the case and something she will quickly forget.
There is no prospect of seeing her in prison even if charged. Without being controversial, to not care would be subhuman and I would think she is tormented by her actions. We will never know. Whatever the settling is, and I hope it’s a few million, it will give the the family the money to improve their lives immensely.

rjfp1962

7,723 posts

73 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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Case of Harry Dunn's alleged killer Anne Sacoolas to be heard this week at London court.

https://news.sky.com/story/case-of-harry-dunns-all...

KingNothing

3,168 posts

153 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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anonymous said:
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She probably wouldn't have even got that if she'd stuck around and didn't leave the country.

Rivenink

3,683 posts

106 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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Think it's worth remembering that she's not been found guilty of any offence *yet*.

Completely agree though that in the event of a guilty plea/verdict, that an attempt to escape Justice is appropriately considered.

StevieBee

12,881 posts

255 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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Going to be interesting how this one pans out.

Morally she should have faced whatever law prevailed. But you can't be tried on morality and this will be more a test of the extent of protection that Diplomatic Immunity affords.


Gareth79

7,666 posts

246 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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KingNothing said:
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She probably wouldn't have even got that if she'd stuck around and didn't leave the country.
Yup, although it was awful, she had a convincing reason for what happened, so a decent solicitor could have argued that she was working long hours, it was the evening and she was tired and after leaving the base (which was full of US people) momentarily forgot she was in the UK.. It was obviously not an intentional act or deliberately "ignoring the rules of the road". She may well have got away with a suspended sentence and it would have been a small article in the local papers.

I think the court is required to look at the case with a fresh mind though? So in theory what happened afterwards should not count against her. Whether that happens...

Dogwatch

6,228 posts

222 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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Disagree. She made a common error when driving in a country which drives on the opposite side to that which she is used to. Most people, self included, making a similar error abroad realise in time and get away with it. She was unfortunate to hit a gap in the traffic which allowed her to travel as far as she did. As commented, if her employer hadn’t whisked her back to the States this would probably have been settled by a non-custodial sentence by now. As it is I expect that whatever sentence she receives it won’t be enough for her family.

Gareth79

7,666 posts

246 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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Dogwatch said:
Disagree. She made a common error when driving in a country which drives on the opposite side to that which she is used to. Most people, self included, making a similar error abroad realise in time and get away with it. She was unfortunate to hit a gap in the traffic which allowed her to travel as far as she did. As commented, if her employer hadn’t whisked her back to the States this would probably have been settled by a non-custodial sentence by now. As it is I expect that whatever sentence she receives it won’t be enough for her family.
Would be interesting for a show of hands on here for people who have driven abroad and turned out of a hotel, car park etc. onto a road and suddenly realised they are on the wrong side.


Earthdweller

13,548 posts

126 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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anonymous said:
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but are you a very senior covert intelligence agent for your country’s spy agency working in a foreign country with diplomatic immunity?

If not it’s totally irrelevant