Extinction Rebellion - Are They Terrorists Yet?

Extinction Rebellion - Are They Terrorists Yet?

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turbobloke

86,722 posts

207 months

Monday 21st October
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9.3 said:
Apropos Ms Thunberg (how amusing, Autocorrect changed it to Thunderbird!), where is she now? Wasn’t she travelling down to South America or something? Considering the Swedish schools autumn term started towards the end of August, she’s certainly missing out class time .
She's now advocating rule-breaking, or rather her puppeteers are advocating it; use of rule is deliberate weasel wordsmithery, facilitating plausible denial - inevitably it reduces to the law, and sends a clear message.

Greta statement said:
Police have banned peaceful, nonviolent Extinction Rebellion protests in London. Amnesty UK says it is an unlawful constraint of our rights to Freedom of Expression and peaceful assembly. If standing up against the climate and ecological breakdown and for humanity is against the rules then the rules must be broken.

Kewy

1,378 posts

41 months

Monday 21st October
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TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
Kewy said:
Interesting how it's being played down now. Didn't read into the outcome of the mob attack tbh as I didn't really want to know. Regardless, it's disgusting behaviour and if it wasn't for the women stepping in then it probably would have ended a lot worse, sounds like the train riding tosspot got off lucky.

You're telling me each of those kicks was considerately placed as to not cause any real damage? Give over, there are men in that video that literally throw other people out the way so they can have a go.
Behave. You are just embarrasing yourself now.
Oh seeing as you put it like that… rolleyes

On second thoughts, fk off, just because I'm not going to join the lynch mob and say I enjoy watching a group of men kick repeatedly kick another man thats on the floor. Anyone who enjoys that is an embarrassment to the human race if you ask me.

jonmiles

107 posts

3 months

Monday 21st October
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I'm with you Kewy. That was a potentially serious assault about to happen by a group of men on one man. Under no circumstances is that acceptable. If he's broken the law then citizens arrest him for the police to deal with otherwise unclench your fists and move on.

Randy Winkman

7,376 posts

136 months

Monday 21st October
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9.3 said:
Apropos Ms Thunberg (how amusing, Autocorrect changed it to Thunderbird!), where is she now? Wasn’t she travelling down to South America or something? Considering the Swedish schools autumn term started towards the end of August, she’s certainly missing out class time .
It says here that in Sweden education "is mandatory for children between ages 6 and 15".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Sweden

turbobloke

86,722 posts

207 months

Monday 21st October
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Randy Winkman said:
9.3 said:
Apropos Ms Thunberg (how amusing, Autocorrect changed it to Thunderbird!), where is she now? Wasn’t she travelling down to South America or something? Considering the Swedish schools autumn term started towards the end of August, she’s certainly missing out class time .
It says here that in Sweden education "is mandatory for children between ages 6 and 15".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Sweden
Surely you weren't suggesting she's not bright enough to stay on in the gymnasium for their equivalent of a UK sixth-form albeit with a slightly different age range? Or that there are no benefits for those who can cope? Do you know what her education involves atm?

Understanding revolutionary marxism a bit better might help, you never know.

Cold

7,709 posts

37 months

Monday 21st October
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I believe Ms Thunberg is in Canada a the moment. She recently visited Alberta to give another speech about something.

kev1974

3,401 posts

76 months

Monday 21st October
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More disruption planned in the runup to Christmas

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7596415/E...

Can't see getting in the way of stressed Christmas Shoppers on an Oxford Street that's already jam-packed around that time of year will go down well

otolith

39,097 posts

151 months

Monday 21st October
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kev1974 said:
More disruption planned in the runup to Christmas

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7596415/E...

Can't see getting in the way of stressed Christmas Shoppers on an Oxford Street that's already jam-packed around that time of year will go down well
Perhaps they can all dress up as the Grinch.

turbobloke

86,722 posts

207 months

Monday 21st October
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swiveleyedgit said:
ears

Sounds good wink

As to XR and their seasonal plans, as it's all going to be against the Met's Section 14 Order they'll all be immediately arrested (again) as long as there's a blue moon.

cardigankid

7,653 posts

159 months

Monday 21st October
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Tannedbaldhead said:
I didn't say youth was turning it was certain Americans overreacting on Social Media at the time of the "how dare you" speech.

You haven't heard of Soros, Bilderberg, The Judeo-Globalists, The Freemasons, the billionaires and captains of Industry?

Riot is a crime, riot is not terrorism and if you had been brought up in the Bogside in Derry you'd know what a riot was and that these bloody nuisances blocking the roads are nowhere near rioters.
You are mistaken, what happened in the Bogside was terrorism, what XR are doing, at the extreme end, is rioting, maybe a mild riot, at times, but rioting. As to Greta, she is having words put into her mouth by seriously anti-democratic forces.

otolith

39,097 posts

151 months

Monday 21st October
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cardigankid said:
As to Greta, she is having words put into her mouth by seriously anti-democratic forces.
I think Greta is being used, but I'm not sure that 16 year olds actually need words put into their mouths.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL_p9qjfu5U


Pinoyuk

422 posts

3 months

Monday 21st October
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If the ER lot want to mess up Christmas for people and businesses etc. Lets hope the police are scarce on the ground when the public give them a battering . I have zero time for these idiots and given the chance would love to punch one hard .

jonmiles

107 posts

3 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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Pinoyuk said:
Lets hope the police are scarce on the ground when the public give them a battering . I have zero time for these idiots and given the chance would love to punch one hard .
The amount of times I'm seeing this kind of violent comment on a thread that is supposedly about ER being terrorists is amazing.

Mort7

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798 posts

55 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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jonmiles said:
The amount of times I'm seeing this kind of violent comment on a thread that is supposedly about ER being terrorists is amazing.
For (hopefully, but doubtfully) the last time, this thread is not about XR being terrorists, it is asking how far their actions will have to go for them to make the transition from anarchism to terrorism.

ATG

16,212 posts

219 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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Mort7 said:
jonmiles said:
The amount of times I'm seeing this kind of violent comment on a thread that is supposedly about ER being terrorists is amazing.
For (hopefully, but doubtfully) the last time, this thread is not about XR being terrorists, it is asking how far their actions will have to go for them to make the transition from anarchism to terrorism.
If people stuck rigidly to that question there wouldn't be much to say. (a) they're not anarchists and (b) they'd have to start behaving like terrorists. Thread closed, or maybe let the conversation develop from its unpromising starting point?

jonmiles

107 posts

3 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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Mort7 said:
jonmiles said:
The amount of times I'm seeing this kind of violent comment on a thread that is supposedly about ER being terrorists is amazing.
For (hopefully, but doubtfully) the last time, this thread is not about XR being terrorists, it is asking how far their actions will have to go for them to make the transition from anarchism to terrorism.
If I change my comment from Being to Becoming it doesn't change the gist of what I'm saying. All of the traits of terrorism, most notably violence, appear to be targeted at them from posters on here.

Perhaps the thread title should be changed to Pistonheads Posters - Are They Terrorists Yet? smile

BrassMan

1,318 posts

136 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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jonmiles said:
Mort7 said:
jonmiles said:
The amount of times I'm seeing this kind of violent comment on a thread that is supposedly about ER being terrorists is amazing.
For (hopefully, but doubtfully) the last time, this thread is not about XR being terrorists, it is asking how far their actions will have to go for them to make the transition from anarchism to terrorism.
If I change my comment from Being to Becoming it doesn't change the gist of what I'm saying. All of the traits of terrorism, most notably violence, appear to be targeted at them from posters on here.

Perhaps the thread title should be changed to Pistonheads Posters - Are They Terrorists Yet? smile
Well, the rhetoric can get quite fiery. The original comments are long gone, though.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/feb/03/transpo...
https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire...

[quote]among its associate organisations the ABD numbers Pistonheads, a website which carried death threats last year against Mary Williams, the head of road safety charity Brake, whose mother and former partner were killed in traffic accidents. Members of Pistonheads suggested that Mrs Williams should be "knocked off" or have her brake cables cut for supporting the proliferation of speed cameras. Other postings said she should be burnt at the stake as a witch.
smile

Mort7

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798 posts

55 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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ATG said:
If people stuck rigidly to that question there wouldn't be much to say. (a) they're not anarchists and (b) they'd have to start behaving like terrorists. Thread closed, or maybe let the conversation develop from its unpromising starting point?
Yep. Good point, well made. I just find it a bit galling that some posters (not JonMiles) have made the assumption that there is an inherent assumption within the thread title that XR are terrorists, when that's not the case.

vikingaero

4,272 posts

116 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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So volunteer tree planter, Joseph O'Malley, was fined a total of £750 for defacing a monument and told by the Judge to get a job and pay the fine. How does wanton criminal damage fit in with XD?

Defending, Chantel Gaber said: 'His intention wasn't to damage that memorial. It wasn't intended to cause offence."

But I'm not sure who is the more utter scum? O'Malley for the criminal act or his solicitor, Chantel Gabor, for accepting money to defend this oxygen thief.

I think that Solicitors and Barristers should pay the same fine/serve the same sentence as their clients if they are found guilty. biggrin