How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 13)
Discussion
Stay in Bed Instead said:
What if you don't have children?
I don't, I will be lonely because the rest of my family are selfish s
ts as has been proven many many time over the years. I see the same thing constantly....I add there are magnificent exceptions.
I also add, "family" is not just about "children", my mother and father proved that twice in their lives at great financial and emotional/time cost.
Dont like rolls said:
I don't, I will be lonely because the rest of my family are selfish sts as has been proven many many time over the years.
I see the same thing constantly....I add there are magnificent exceptions.
I also add, "family" is not just about "children", my mother and father proved that twice in their lives at great financial and emotional/time cost.
So if you don't have children you think siblings should care for you in your old age?ts as has been proven many many time over the years. I see the same thing constantly....I add there are magnificent exceptions.
I also add, "family" is not just about "children", my mother and father proved that twice in their lives at great financial and emotional/time cost.
What if ...
Stay in Bed Instead said:
Dont like rolls said:
I don't, I will be lonely because the rest of my family are selfish sts as has been proven many many time over the years.
I see the same thing constantly....I add there are magnificent exceptions.
I also add, "family" is not just about "children", my mother and father proved that twice in their lives at great financial and emotional/time cost.
So if you don't have children you think siblings should care for you in your old age?ts as has been proven many many time over the years. I see the same thing constantly....I add there are magnificent exceptions.
I also add, "family" is not just about "children", my mother and father proved that twice in their lives at great financial and emotional/time cost.
What if ...
I said the system is broken and family is larger than just your children.
Mrr T said:
crankedup said:
We in the U.K. have a very distorted view on who should look after our parents, imo it is the primary responsibility of the immeadiate family. Of course some will require medication which has to be administered by qualified staff, we used to have the benefit of home visits by professionals, this has diminished over the years but I see no reason why a scheme cannot be re-introduced.
When you retire will you be picking crops and wiping bums?
As for agriculture, look back over the past decades and notice the march of technology and how this has affected labour levels in fields. Do you imagine that somehow technology of the future will not continue to affect labour levels’on the farm’? Or are you in favour of people cutting cabbages in frozen fields for minimum wage?
So you want the government to legislate to force families to look after aged parents? Best of luck with that. Will you be telling your children they need to have a room ready because when you have dementia and are incontinent you will be moving in?When you retire will you be picking crops and wiping bums?
As for agriculture, look back over the past decades and notice the march of technology and how this has affected labour levels in fields. Do you imagine that somehow technology of the future will not continue to affect labour levels’on the farm’? Or are you in favour of people cutting cabbages in frozen fields for minimum wage?
Edited by crankedup on Wednesday 19th February 13:35
As farming you need to catch up. There is a lot of machinery but also many task which are almost impossible for machinery to do.
As for me, I am retired, but since I voted remain and think this is a stupid and ill thought out policy I do not feel I need to step up. I will also soon be off.
I have no need to catch up on farming techniques, I know that tech’ is fast incoming and will continue taking over the ‘hands on cabbages’ requirement.
Be off then, sooner the better for all perhaps
hutchst said:
SpeckledJim said:
We could make all the old giffers jump off a cliff, like the Vikings did.
In a loving way, you understand.
Soylent green.In a loving way, you understand.
Waste not, want not.
Mrs Digga said, if I have another one and break my neck, she's wheeling me up to the top of the old gravel pit and tipping me in. Which I thought (and told her) would be fair enough.
Stay in Bed Instead said:
crankedup said:
Am I wrong in my assertion?
Yup, but you will never agree so little point in discussing.Dont like rolls said:
Stay in Bed Instead said:
What if you don't have children?
I don't, I will be lonely because the rest of my family are selfish sts as has been proven many many time over the years. I see the same thing constantly....I add there are magnificent exceptions.
I also add, "family" is not just about "children", my mother and father proved that twice in their lives at great financial and emotional/time cost.
This is one of the Social responsibility areas where the French lead the U.K. Young French do not see their elders as liabilities, more as ‘givers of wisdom’, they do have great respect and demonstrate that without thinking it over, it’s a perfectly natural reaction to them. Compare that to the attitude so freely admitted to in here and elsewhere.
Anyhow, I’m sure remainers in here are keen to discuss the merits of our incoming immigration system so back to that perhaps.
Stay in Bed Instead said:
Dont like rolls said:
Did I say that ?....no
I said the system is broken and family is larger than just your children.
My bad then, I thought you meant family should care for the elderly not the state.I said the system is broken and family is larger than just your children.
Dont like rolls said:
Stay in Bed Instead said:
Dont like rolls said:
Did I say that ?....no
I said the system is broken and family is larger than just your children.
My bad then, I thought you meant family should care for the elderly not the state.I said the system is broken and family is larger than just your children.
crankedup said:
Yes, and it’s a shame, and I mean shame, that the younger generations seem to have lost all context of familiy responsibilities.
When you say younger generations you mean the people in their 50’s, 60’s and even 70’s now who have all but abandoned the care of their parents to underpaid Eastern European’s?It’s certainly not the younger generations who have the spare cash to outsource care of their family members.
djc206 said:
When you say younger generations you mean the people in their 50’s, 60’s and even 70’s now who have all but abandoned the care of their parents to underpaid Eastern European’s?
It’s certainly not the younger generations who have the spare cash to outsource care of their family members.
BINGOIt’s certainly not the younger generations who have the spare cash to outsource care of their family members.
Cash is not the only way to care, too often cash is not the care that is missing.
It is that twisted thought process that is the source of massive upset to those that need it, crave it, deeply miss it and are to proud to admit it deeply upsets them when (way way to often) it is not given.
djc206 said:
crankedup said:
Yes, and it’s a shame, and I mean shame, that the younger generations seem to have lost all context of familiy responsibilities.
When you say younger generations you mean the people in their 50’s, 60’s and even 70’s now who have all but abandoned the care of their parents to underpaid Eastern European’s?It’s certainly not the younger generations who have the spare cash to outsource care of their family members.
Spare cash! that’s a ripe excuse if ever I have heard one, although in fairness I’m sure some may fall into that problem. Do not the elderly have money, own their own house, good pensions. Wouldn’t that asset base form the care package funding, I have read of people using that money source to build on granny units, or move to larger property that will provide suitable homing.
Also I’m not advocating outsourcing care in its entirety, completely the opposite with some expertise called in as appropriate. As a Country I personally do not see that our Social Services can continue in present format, in fact it’s already in crisis.
Stay in Bed Instead said:
crankedup said:
More that you are unable to get past one line quips.Add to that, debate is not about winning or losing, it is about exploring possibilities, wouldn’t expect you to understand that tbh.
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