How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 13)

How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 13)

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anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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amgmcqueen said:
Earthdweller said:
RTE reporting the U.K. could walk away from the talks in June if no significant progress

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0227/1117850-uk-brexi...
Why wait until June? It's obvious the EU are not interested in a trade deal and are wasting our time. Walk away NOW!
Alternatively they don’t want to waste any more of their time. Given that U.k. will be the ones doing self harm. EU might as well sit back & enjoy the Tory show, laugh from the sidelines;)

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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crankedup said:
Gove has stood up in Parliament and advised the House that unless the EU arrive at a broad outline of a trade deal the U.K. will walk away. Tick tock fighting talk, good, very good.
Their move ....



amgmcqueen said:
Why wait until June? It's obvious the EU are not interested in a trade deal and are wasting our time. Walk away NOW!
Top trolling, well done.




Stay in Bed Instead

22,362 posts

157 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Gees, all the positive promises made by team leave and here we are threatening to leave with nothing if we don't get our own way.

Freedom to fk up half our exports.

amusingduck

9,396 posts

136 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Stay in Bed Instead said:
Gees, all the positive promises made by team leave and here we are threatening to leave with nothing if we don't get our own way.
Were you not paying attention to the past 3 years? laugh

Vanden Saab

14,065 posts

74 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Stay in Bed Instead said:
Gees, all the positive promises made by team leave and here we are threatening to leave with nothing if we don't get our own way.

Freedom to fk up half our exports.
Why will the Eu stop buying UK goods?

ollyprice87

274 posts

160 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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It'll be fine, these upstanding gentlemen told me.

Stay in Bed Instead

22,362 posts

157 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Vanden Saab said:
Why will the Eu stop buying UK goods?
They may if we become uncompetitive.

Did you not realise this?

Vanden Saab

14,065 posts

74 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Stay in Bed Instead said:
They may if we become uncompetitive.

Did you not realise this?
Why will they become uncompetitive?

ollyprice87

274 posts

160 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Stay in Bed Instead said:
They may if we become uncompetitive.

Did you not realise this?
Seems many didn't realise that if British good carried carried extra tariffs and thus become uncompetitive then EU countries may go elsewhere. Or they just believed all the jingoistic bks coming out of Johnson and Farage and that they'd always buy goods from good old Blighty.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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ollyprice87 said:
Stay in Bed Instead said:
They may if we become uncompetitive.

Did you not realise this?
Seems many didn't realise that if British good carried carried extra tariffs and thus become uncompetitive then EU countries may go elsewhere. Or they just believed all the jingoistic bks coming out of Johnson and Farage and that they'd always buy goods from good old Blighty.
Are you presenting our collapsing economy as the EU forges ahead as evidence of this position?


Tuna

19,930 posts

284 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Jimboka said:
Alternatively they don’t want to waste any more of their time. Given that U.k. will be the ones doing self harm. EU might as well sit back & enjoy the Tory show, laugh from the sidelines;)
That's an interesting interpretation. The EU appear to have explicitly said that their concern is the UK will become 'unfairly' competitive, and the proposed agreement is designed to limit our ability to compete.

That's not my definition of "self harm", and I'm not convinced being competitive is "unfair". Though there do seem to be some Europhile cheerleaders who are agreeing that the UK should agree to restrict our competitiveness out of a sense of "fairness".

Tuna

19,930 posts

284 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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ollyprice87 said:
Stay in Bed Instead said:
They may if we become uncompetitive.

Did you not realise this?
Seems many didn't realise that if British good carried carried extra tariffs and thus become uncompetitive then EU countries may go elsewhere. Or they just believed all the jingoistic bks coming out of Johnson and Farage and that they'd always buy goods from good old Blighty.
If you think tariffs uniquely control our competitiveness, you've not been paying attention.

TriumphStag3.0V8

3,833 posts

81 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Tuna said:
That's an interesting interpretation. The EU appear to have explicitly said that their concern is the UK will become 'unfairly' competitive, and the proposed agreement is designed to limit our ability to compete.

That's not my definition of "self harm", and I'm not convinced being competitive is "unfair". Though there do seem to be some Europhile cheerleaders who are agreeing that the UK should agree to restrict our competitiveness out of a sense of "fairness".
It's really quite strange isn't it?

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

261 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Tuna said:
That's an interesting interpretation. The EU appear to have explicitly said that their concern is the UK will become 'unfairly' competitive, and the proposed agreement is designed to limit our ability to compete.

That's not my definition of "self harm", and I'm not convinced being competitive is "unfair". Though there do seem to be some Europhile cheerleaders who are agreeing that the UK should agree to restrict our competitiveness out of a sense of "fairness".
+1

i4got

5,653 posts

78 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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ollyprice87 said:
Stay in Bed Instead said:
They may if we become uncompetitive.

Did you not realise this?
Seems many didn't realise that if British good carried carried extra tariffs and thus become uncompetitive then EU countries may go elsewhere. Or they just believed all the jingoistic bks coming out of Johnson and Farage and that they'd always buy goods from good old Blighty.
Seems many didn't realise that we import more from the EU than we export to them. So what goes for us, goes more for them. And they are the ones who's economies are teetering.


Stay in Bed Instead

22,362 posts

157 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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i4got said:
Seems many didn't realise that we import more from the EU than we export to them. So what goes for us, goes more for them. And they are the ones who's economies are teetering.

As a whole the UK is not half their exports though.

ollyprice87

274 posts

160 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Tuna said:
ollyprice87 said:
Stay in Bed Instead said:
They may if we become uncompetitive.

Did you not realise this?
Seems many didn't realise that if British good carried carried extra tariffs and thus become uncompetitive then EU countries may go elsewhere. Or they just believed all the jingoistic bks coming out of Johnson and Farage and that they'd always buy goods from good old Blighty.
If you think tariffs uniquely control our competitiveness, you've not been paying attention.
There is the tariffs, also the supply chain issues with Just In Time production that will ravage our car industry. I feel I should qualify that statement with the fact that I work for one of the largest polymer automotive component manufacturers in the world.

Nice article here too - https://www.birmingham.ac.uk/research/perspective/...

amusingduck

9,396 posts

136 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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ollyprice87 said:
There is the tariffs, also the supply chain issues with Just In Time production that will ravage our car industry.
BINGO!

Murph7355

37,708 posts

256 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Stay in Bed Instead said:
Gees, all the positive promises made by team leave and here we are threatening to leave with nothing if we don't get our own way.

Freedom to fk up half our exports.
Here we go... Rerun of the last 3yrs.

The fannies come out in force smile

You've never negotiated anything, have you?

Stay in Bed Instead

22,362 posts

157 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Murph7355 said:
Here we go... Rerun of the last 3yrs.

The fannies come out in force smile

You've never negotiated anything, have you?
These days I have trouble negotiating with my arse on whether it's a fart or a dump. But I digress ...

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