How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 13)
Discussion
chrispmartha said:
It doesn't matter, the just 'Get Brexit Done' and 'Clean Brexit' (that phrase always makes me chuckle) people do not care a jot whether there is a border or not.
True.Pre referendum, the NI border issue was only considered by those living there, which hasn't changed since.
Stay in Bed Instead said:
chrispmartha said:
It doesn't matter, the just 'Get Brexit Done' and 'Clean Brexit' (that phrase always makes me chuckle) people do not care a jot whether there is a border or not.
True.Pre referendum, the NI border issue was only considered by those living there, which hasn't changed since.
gooner1 said:
Stay in Bed Instead said:
chrispmartha said:
It doesn't matter, the just 'Get Brexit Done' and 'Clean Brexit' (that phrase always makes me chuckle) people do not care a jot whether there is a border or not.
True.Pre referendum, the NI border issue was only considered by those living there, which hasn't changed since.
It was those that wanted to change things that has the responsibility of stating what those changes will mean.
As I said a couple of months ago, declarations aren't checks.
SPS checks have been in place for years, so they're nothing new.
Only thing that's noticeable is product regs checks - which are virtually completely self certified, and subject to a tiny percentage of actual conformity checks, usually at premises.
SPS checks have been in place for years, so they're nothing new.
Only thing that's noticeable is product regs checks - which are virtually completely self certified, and subject to a tiny percentage of actual conformity checks, usually at premises.
chrispmartha said:
As I voted to remain and not change anything with regards to the NI Border why should I have considered it, other than thinking what we have works quite well.
It was those that wanted to change things that has the responsibility of stating what those changes will mean.
You didn't vote pre referendum.It was those that wanted to change things that has the responsibility of stating what those changes will mean.
bhstewie said:
Stay in Bed Instead said:
Apparently Labour have got hold of a Government report stating that there will be customs checks between NI & GB, and that the deal is economically bad for NI.
That's impossible.Boris said there won't be checks.
The Irish Sea border always required checks. The extent of those checks depends on any future trade agreement with the EU. Since BJ indicates he wants to move away from the EU regulatory influence the checks are likely to be close to any border between the EU and a 3rd country.
Mrr T said:
bhstewie said:
Stay in Bed Instead said:
Apparently Labour have got hold of a Government report stating that there will be customs checks between NI & GB, and that the deal is economically bad for NI.
That's impossible.Boris said there won't be checks.
The Irish Sea border always required checks. The extent of those checks depends on any future trade agreement with the EU. Since BJ indicates he wants to move away from the EU regulatory influence the checks are likely to be close to any border between the EU and a 3rd country.
Stay in Bed Instead said:
Apparently Labour have got hold of a Government report stating that there will be customs checks between NI & GB, and that the deal is economically bad for NI.
Is, not could/might/may be?That must be the first economic modelling to come with a cast iron guarantee.
Was the model guesswork bad for NI short-term, medium-term, long-term, or all three?
Sway said:
Mrr T said:
bhstewie said:
Stay in Bed Instead said:
Apparently Labour have got hold of a Government report stating that there will be customs checks between NI & GB, and that the deal is economically bad for NI.
That's impossible.Boris said there won't be checks.
The Irish Sea border always required checks. The extent of those checks depends on any future trade agreement with the EU. Since BJ indicates he wants to move away from the EU regulatory influence the checks are likely to be close to any border between the EU and a 3rd country.
No I just said checks will be required for goods moving between 2 parts of the same country. Some thing BJ said would not happen.
Mrr T said:
Sway said:
Mrr T said:
bhstewie said:
Stay in Bed Instead said:
Apparently Labour have got hold of a Government report stating that there will be customs checks between NI & GB, and that the deal is economically bad for NI.
That's impossible.Boris said there won't be checks.
The Irish Sea border always required checks. The extent of those checks depends on any future trade agreement with the EU. Since BJ indicates he wants to move away from the EU regulatory influence the checks are likely to be close to any border between the EU and a 3rd country.
No I just said checks will be required for goods moving between 2 parts of the same country. Some thing BJ said would not happen.
"likely to be close to any border".
Still going to pretend you haven't?
Need to improve your Google skills. At the moment you just make it too easy to point out your ignorance.
chrispmartha said:
gooner1 said:
Stay in Bed Instead said:
chrispmartha said:
It doesn't matter, the just 'Get Brexit Done' and 'Clean Brexit' (that phrase always makes me chuckle) people do not care a jot whether there is a border or not.
True.Pre referendum, the NI border issue was only considered by those living there, which hasn't changed since.
It was those that wanted to change things that has the responsibility of stating what those changes will mean.
Sway said:
Mrr T said:
Sway said:
Mrr T said:
bhstewie said:
Stay in Bed Instead said:
Apparently Labour have got hold of a Government report stating that there will be customs checks between NI & GB, and that the deal is economically bad for NI.
That's impossible.Boris said there won't be checks.
The Irish Sea border always required checks. The extent of those checks depends on any future trade agreement with the EU. Since BJ indicates he wants to move away from the EU regulatory influence the checks are likely to be close to any border between the EU and a 3rd country.
No I just said checks will be required for goods moving between 2 parts of the same country. Some thing BJ said would not happen.
"likely to be close to any border".
Still going to pretend you haven't?
Need to improve your Google skills. At the moment you just make it too easy to point out your ignorance.
You need to improve your English it makes it to easy to point out your ingnorance.
Mrr T said:
Sway said:
Mrr T said:
Sway said:
Mrr T said:
bhstewie said:
Stay in Bed Instead said:
Apparently Labour have got hold of a Government report stating that there will be customs checks between NI & GB, and that the deal is economically bad for NI.
That's impossible.Boris said there won't be checks.
The Irish Sea border always required checks. The extent of those checks depends on any future trade agreement with the EU. Since BJ indicates he wants to move away from the EU regulatory influence the checks are likely to be close to any border between the EU and a 3rd country.
No I just said checks will be required for goods moving between 2 parts of the same country. Some thing BJ said would not happen.
"likely to be close to any border".
Still going to pretend you haven't?
Need to improve your Google skills. At the moment you just make it too easy to point out your ignorance.
You need to improve your English it makes it to easy to point out your ingnorance.
And you think my English is lacking?
Sway said:
So, as per the product we self certified today more than 11k miles from any recipient border - that occurred "close" in any sense to the border?
And you think my English is lacking?
"the checks are likely to be close to any border between the EU and a 3rd country" And you think my English is lacking?
Close
adverb
very near to someone or something ; with very little space between.
So the border in the Irish Sea will be close or similar to any other EU/3rd country border.
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Mrr T said:
Sway said:
So, as per the product we self certified today more than 11k miles from any recipient border - that occurred "close" in any sense to the border?
And you think my English is lacking?
"the checks are likely to be close to any border between the EU and a 3rd country" And you think my English is lacking?
Close
adverb
very near to someone or something ; with very little space between.
So the border in the Irish Sea will be close or similar to any other EU/3rd country border.
x2
You'd have been better using a definition that actually meant what you did, like this one instead of one that specifically refers in the Google search as being related to space or time:
Even then, still wrong. There are a few obvious distinctions.
I'll let you try to find them though. It'll be fun.
chrispmartha said:
As I voted to remain and not change anything with regards to the NI Border why should I have considered it, other than thinking what we have works quite well.
It was those that wanted to change things that has the responsibility of stating what those changes will mean.
Good Post.It was those that wanted to change things that has the responsibility of stating what those changes will mean.
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