Climate change - the POLITICAL debate (Vol 6)
Discussion
China rolls back climate ambition as economic officials limit the scope of a carbon-trading scheme - driving economic growth takes priority.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/chinas-economic-offic...
Over here, we can always keep up with the panic.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/chinas-economic-offic...
Over here, we can always keep up with the panic.
robinessex said:
G7 summit: How significant are group's climate pledges?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-574...
The world's rich nations which caused the climate crisis know what's expected of them - but they consistently fail to deliver in full.
This summit made some progress, especially on heralding the demise of coal - the fuel that drove the industrial revolution and sent emissions soaring.
But for the umpteenth time the rich club has failed to deliver on its promise to channel $100bn a year to poor nations coping with a heating climate.
Yes, bilateral deals have offered top-up funding to developing nations - but although we haven't seen the details yet, it's clear that they won't tot up to the magic 100 mark..........continues
I wonder how much of that £100 billion would end up in some despots Swiss bank account(s) ?
That’s a nice quote summing up the net contribution of western advanced economies over the past three centuries.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-574...
The world's rich nations which caused the climate crisis know what's expected of them - but they consistently fail to deliver in full.
This summit made some progress, especially on heralding the demise of coal - the fuel that drove the industrial revolution and sent emissions soaring.
But for the umpteenth time the rich club has failed to deliver on its promise to channel $100bn a year to poor nations coping with a heating climate.
Yes, bilateral deals have offered top-up funding to developing nations - but although we haven't seen the details yet, it's clear that they won't tot up to the magic 100 mark..........continues
I wonder how much of that £100 billion would end up in some despots Swiss bank account(s) ?
Pity those negative results did not also result in improving life outcomes for billions.
Or reducing conflicts.
Or the creation of digital watches.
Still, once we build back better it’ll all be solved. You wait.
turbobloke said:
zygalski said:
Well we obviously have several more AGW believers in this thread as opposed to a couple of weeks ago...
Any Swiss?
Haven’t they heard that it’s going to save them money in the long term? At the German constitutional court it was decided that it wasn’t fair to burden future generations with the costs associated with massive & rapid reductions in emissions.
UK warned it is unprepared for climate chaos
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-574...
The UK is woefully unprepared to deal with changes occurring to the climate, government advisers say.
A report by the independent Climate Change Committee predicts warming will hit the UK harder than first thought.
It warns of more severe heatwaves, especially in big cities, and more intense rainfall, with an increased flood risk across most of the UK.
It says homes, infrastructure and services must be made resilient to floods, heat and humid nights.
The authors of the report on adaptation, or "climate-proofing", warn that global warming can cause damage running into tens of billions of pounds over short periods - and they say they're frustrated at the lack of government action.
The committee, also known as the CCC, says the UK is even worse prepared than it was five years ago, at the time of its last report on the risks of climate change.
The CCC is an independent group of experts set up to provide the government with advice on the climate crisis.,,,,,continues
I've no doubt all the expertise the government has acquired fighting the Covid pandemic has now made it well equipped to deal with this emergency as well.
PS
The CCC is an independent group of experts (paid for by the government) set up to provide the government with advice that keeps them in pocket money
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-574...
The UK is woefully unprepared to deal with changes occurring to the climate, government advisers say.
A report by the independent Climate Change Committee predicts warming will hit the UK harder than first thought.
It warns of more severe heatwaves, especially in big cities, and more intense rainfall, with an increased flood risk across most of the UK.
It says homes, infrastructure and services must be made resilient to floods, heat and humid nights.
The authors of the report on adaptation, or "climate-proofing", warn that global warming can cause damage running into tens of billions of pounds over short periods - and they say they're frustrated at the lack of government action.
The committee, also known as the CCC, says the UK is even worse prepared than it was five years ago, at the time of its last report on the risks of climate change.
The CCC is an independent group of experts set up to provide the government with advice on the climate crisis.,,,,,continues
I've no doubt all the expertise the government has acquired fighting the Covid pandemic has now made it well equipped to deal with this emergency as well.
PS
The CCC is an independent group of experts (paid for by the government) set up to provide the government with advice that keeps them in pocket money
No problem, now we panic in a pre-prepared chaotic manner.
Meanwhile...
Democrats Start to Splinter Over Climate
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/06/16...
Meanwhile...
Democrats Start to Splinter Over Climate
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/06/16...
robinessex said:
UK warned it is unprepared for climate chaos
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-574...
The UK is woefully unprepared to deal with changes occurring to the climate, government advisers say.
A report by the independent Climate Change Committee predicts warming will hit the UK harder than first thought.
It warns of more severe heatwaves, especially in big cities, and more intense rainfall, with an increased flood risk across most of the UK.
It says homes, infrastructure and services must be made resilient to floods, heat and humid nights.
The authors of the report on adaptation, or "climate-proofing", warn that global warming can cause damage running into tens of billions of pounds over short periods - and they say they're frustrated at the lack of government action.
The committee, also known as the CCC, says the UK is even worse prepared than it was five years ago, at the time of its last report on the risks of climate change.
The CCC is an independent group of experts set up to provide the government with advice on the climate crisis.,,,,,continues
I've no doubt all the expertise the government has acquired fighting the Covid pandemic has now made it well equipped to deal with this emergency as well.
PS
The CCC is an independent group of experts (paid for by the government) set up to provide the government with advice that keeps them in pocket money
Some serious ommisions from that report. Disgraceful really. The general consensus is that the UK should be prepared for droughts as well as flooding. It should also be prepared for record cold, as well as record heat. For extreme dry air at night, as well as extreme humidity. Not only will there be extremely bad weather, but also extremely good weather.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-574...
The UK is woefully unprepared to deal with changes occurring to the climate, government advisers say.
A report by the independent Climate Change Committee predicts warming will hit the UK harder than first thought.
It warns of more severe heatwaves, especially in big cities, and more intense rainfall, with an increased flood risk across most of the UK.
It says homes, infrastructure and services must be made resilient to floods, heat and humid nights.
The authors of the report on adaptation, or "climate-proofing", warn that global warming can cause damage running into tens of billions of pounds over short periods - and they say they're frustrated at the lack of government action.
The committee, also known as the CCC, says the UK is even worse prepared than it was five years ago, at the time of its last report on the risks of climate change.
The CCC is an independent group of experts set up to provide the government with advice on the climate crisis.,,,,,continues
I've no doubt all the expertise the government has acquired fighting the Covid pandemic has now made it well equipped to deal with this emergency as well.
PS
The CCC is an independent group of experts (paid for by the government) set up to provide the government with advice that keeps them in pocket money
By only focusing on one side of the coin these nincompoops will leave the UK ill-prepared to cope with a future that will some day arrive, in the distant future, eventually, hopefully.
garagewidow said:
They've pretty much covered everything there,no need to worry as long as the averages are ok.
But the averages won’t be ok. That’s what’s extremely concerning. Latest predictions show them becoming more extreme, i.e… even more average. Worse than previously thought. So you should worry, and that’s the least of your problems.I've just ordered 100 sandbags. I'm nowhere near a river, never had a flood, but hey, this CC thing might get even worse than an emergency. Might think about a generator as well. Oh, air con for the house with all the hot weather coming, a 'green' one of course. Beter get the roof checked for loose tiles with all the hurricanes predicter as well. Best be prepared I say.
robinessex said:
I've just ordered 100 sandbags. I'm nowhere near a river, never had a flood, but hey, this CC thing might get even worse than an emergency. Might think about a generator as well. Oh, air con for the house with all the hot weather coming, a 'green' one of course. Beter get the roof checked for loose tiles with all the hurricanes predicter as well. Best be prepared I say.
I’m still thinking climate change is just the current manifestation of human need for something to worry about !!50 years ago we were worried about nuclear Armageddon and built bunkers , now we are building windmills to save ourselves !! Ivan stewart said:
robinessex said:
I've just ordered 100 sandbags. I'm nowhere near a river, never had a flood, but hey, this CC thing might get even worse than an emergency. Might think about a generator as well. Oh, air con for the house with all the hot weather coming, a 'green' one of course. Beter get the roof checked for loose tiles with all the hurricanes predicter as well. Best be prepared I say.
I’m still thinking climate change is just the current manifestation of human need for something to worry about !!50 years ago we were worried about nuclear Armageddon and built bunkers , now we are building windmills to save ourselves !! Or something
kerplunk said:
And nuclear armegeddon hasn't happened has it and so it follows that nothing bad will happen with climate change either and we can stop worrying.
Or something
Will happen?Or something
Climate change is already upon us. Millions have already died as a result. 100 million are projected to die by 2030.
jimothyc said:
Just read this article from the Metro. I’m still not sure if it’s parody or not, it seems that climate change is an extension of white colonial racism and the patriarchy.
https://apple.news/A9vx-LjKMQiScmTn4o7Q54g
That article is absolutely nuts; what goes on in these nutters heads?https://apple.news/A9vx-LjKMQiScmTn4o7Q54g
They're actually moaning that XR is a white supremacist movement!!!!
World Health Organisation
In 2019, the top 10 causes of death accounted for 55% of the 55.4 million deaths worldwide.
Leading causes of death globally
At a global level, 7 of the 10 leading causes of deaths in 2019 were NON-COMMUNICABLE diseases. These seven causes accounted for 44% of all deaths or 80% of the top 10. However, all noncommunicable diseases together accounted for 74% of deaths globally in 2019.
In 2019, the top 10 causes of death accounted for 55% of the 55.4 million deaths worldwide.
Leading causes of death globally
At a global level, 7 of the 10 leading causes of deaths in 2019 were NON-COMMUNICABLE diseases. These seven causes accounted for 44% of all deaths or 80% of the top 10. However, all noncommunicable diseases together accounted for 74% of deaths globally in 2019.
Greenpeace logo stopped snipers targeting activist...
https://www.dw.com/en/german-police-probe-failed-g...
https://www.dw.com/en/german-police-probe-failed-g...
kerplunk said:
I'm thinking climate change deniers are just the latest manifestation of the human need to worry about a communist world takeover. 50 years ago we were worried about the USSR but now it's the IPCC!!
Very similar. Posters like Diderot think it’s all about spreading neo marxism, others seem to think it’s part of some great reset or something about elites getting control and anyone else that can’t see it is an idiot. 
Seems contradictory if you think about it and none of them seem to be able to explain the details of these global plots. You’d think that when this basic probing results in a total lack of evidence or detail they’d realise it’s unlikely but alas no, that’s how conspiracy theorists are.
It’s just that ‘they’ are up to something and why can’t everyone see it!
Kawasicki said:
kerplunk said:
And nuclear armegeddon hasn't happened has it and so it follows that nothing bad will happen with climate change either and we can stop worrying.
Or something
Will happen?Or something
Climate change is already upon us. Millions have already died as a result. 100 million are projected to die by 2030.
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