Guy gets dog to kill cat? WTF is wrong with some people?

Guy gets dog to kill cat? WTF is wrong with some people?

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Gareth79

7,628 posts

245 months

Monday 11th November 2019
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He's very unlikely to get prison for the attack (maybe a suspended sentence though), although given the police already have a mugshot of him I suspect he's wanted for other things too, and/or is on probation or similar.

Countdown said:
On a minor point however "cat killing bird" is just natural (as opposed to man made like the others)
Cats are (generally) not native to the UK though.



Edited by Gareth79 on Monday 11th November 17:49

Mort7

1,487 posts

107 months

Monday 11th November 2019
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Gareth79 said:
Cats are (generally) not native to the UK though.
For the sake of balance, neither are dogs (or, for that matter, gerbils, hamsters, parrots, budgies, goldfish, etc, etc). smile

Digga

40,207 posts

282 months

Tuesday 12th November 2019
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Mort7 said:
Gareth79 said:
Cats are (generally) not native to the UK though.
For the sake of balance, neither are dogs (or, for that matter, gerbils, hamsters, parrots, budgies, goldfish, etc, etc). smile
What did the Dalmations ever do for us?!

Wills2

22,669 posts

174 months

Tuesday 12th November 2019
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nute said:
I’m sure the majority of cat lovers don’t give a second thought to the suffering their well fed cat inflicts on the wildlife in not only their garden but that of the surrounding neighbours, maiming whatever it can catch and then playing with it until it gets bored and wanders off.

I don’t agree for one moment with what the moron in the OP did, he deserves everything he gets, just pointing out the inconsistency of some posts here.
You're completely missing the point here, it's the human element that is outrageous, no point in conflating that with animal behaviour in general.







Biker 1

7,696 posts

118 months

Tuesday 12th November 2019
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I've got an RSPCA rescue cat. He's around 4 years old & I've had him for 2.5 years. Only recently he's learnt how to purr, & vary occasionally he plucks up the courage to sit on my knee. I sometimes wonder just how fking badly he was mistreated by some utter to make him that traumatised. People who torture animals are nothing short of fking scum. If karma really does exist, the dog owner in the OP's link will have a totally st afterlife. I really really hope something catastrophically unpleasant happens to him. .

Mort7

1,487 posts

107 months

Tuesday 12th November 2019
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Biker 1 said:
I've got an RSPCA rescue cat. He's around 4 years old & I've had him for 2.5 years. Only recently he's learnt how to purr, & vary occasionally he plucks up the courage to sit on my knee. I sometimes wonder just how fking badly he was mistreated by some utter to make him that traumatised. People who torture animals are nothing short of fking scum. If karma really does exist, the dog owner in the OP's link will have a totally st afterlife. I really really hope something catastrophically unpleasant happens to him. .
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jmn

895 posts

279 months

Wednesday 13th November 2019
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Man arrested.

Countdown

39,691 posts

195 months

Wednesday 13th November 2019
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Gareth79 said:
Countdown said:
On a minor point however "cat killing bird" is just natural (as opposed to man made like the others)
Cats are (generally) not native to the UK though.
Immigrant cats?

Countdown

39,691 posts

195 months

Wednesday 13th November 2019
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Digga said:
Mort7 said:
Gareth79 said:
Cats are (generally) not native to the UK though.
For the sake of balance, neither are dogs (or, for that matter, gerbils, hamsters, parrots, budgies, goldfish, etc, etc). smile
What did the Dalmations ever do for us?!
My uncle’s broke down quite regularly, mainly due to a dodgy Lucas fuel injection system.

Fatboy

7,972 posts

271 months

Wednesday 13th November 2019
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Digga said:
Mort7 said:
Gareth79 said:
Cats are (generally) not native to the UK though.
For the sake of balance, neither are dogs (or, for that matter, gerbils, hamsters, parrots, budgies, goldfish, etc, etc). smile
What did the Dalmations ever do for us?!
They got Cuella de Ville locked up...

pequod

8,956 posts

137 months

Wednesday 13th November 2019
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nute said:
I’m sure the majority of cat lovers don’t give a second thought to the suffering their well fed cat inflicts on the wildlife in not only their garden but that of the surrounding neighbours, maiming whatever it can catch and then playing with it until it gets bored and wanders off.

I don’t agree for one moment with what the moron in the OP did, he deserves everything he gets, just pointing out the inconsistency of some posts here.
As you say, the majority of cat lovers have no idea the impact their pet has on wildlife.

My garden used to have a large variety of wildlife including ground feeding birds and lizards such as slow worms and the common lizard. Toads too. Since a neighbour decided to make an Xmas gift of two farm kittens the wildlife count is near zero. No longer the green woodpecker, blackbird, thrush will visit our garden or nest, and the hedge sparrows, siskins, tits, and robin are constantly being attacked as I witnessed recently as one was snatched from the bird table by said farm 'kitten' now a full grown cat.

If my dog did this amount of damage to wildlife I'm sure there would be outrage, and rightly so, but pussy cats are immune, apparently, from any sanction.

TheJimi

24,864 posts

242 months

Wednesday 13th November 2019
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pequod said:
nute said:
I’m sure the majority of cat lovers don’t give a second thought to the suffering their well fed cat inflicts on the wildlife in not only their garden but that of the surrounding neighbours, maiming whatever it can catch and then playing with it until it gets bored and wanders off.

I don’t agree for one moment with what the moron in the OP did, he deserves everything he gets, just pointing out the inconsistency of some posts here.
As you say, the majority of cat lovers have no idea the impact their pet has on wildlife.

My garden used to have a large variety of wildlife including ground feeding birds and lizards such as slow worms and the common lizard. Toads too. Since a neighbour decided to make an Xmas gift of two farm kittens the wildlife count is near zero. No longer the green woodpecker, blackbird, thrush will visit our garden or nest, and the hedge sparrows, siskins, tits, and robin are constantly being attacked as I witnessed recently as one was snatched from the bird table by said farm 'kitten' now a full grown cat.

If my dog did this amount of damage to wildlife I'm sure there would be outrage, and rightly so, but pussy cats are immune, apparently, from any sanction.
So it's totally ok for some to set his dog on someone's pet cat?

Smollet

10,467 posts

189 months

Wednesday 13th November 2019
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Gareth79 said:
Cats are (generally) not native to the UK though.



Edited by Gareth79 on Monday 11th November 17:49
Cats aren’t part of nature. They’re domestic pets

pequod

8,956 posts

137 months

Wednesday 13th November 2019
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TheJimi said:
pequod said:
nute said:
I’m sure the majority of cat lovers don’t give a second thought to the suffering their well fed cat inflicts on the wildlife in not only their garden but that of the surrounding neighbours, maiming whatever it can catch and then playing with it until it gets bored and wanders off.

I don’t agree for one moment with what the moron in the OP did, he deserves everything he gets, just pointing out the inconsistency of some posts here.
As you say, the majority of cat lovers have no idea the impact their pet has on wildlife.

My garden used to have a large variety of wildlife including ground feeding birds and lizards such as slow worms and the common lizard. Toads too. Since a neighbour decided to make an Xmas gift of two farm kittens the wildlife count is near zero. No longer the green woodpecker, blackbird, thrush will visit our garden or nest, and the hedge sparrows, siskins, tits, and robin are constantly being attacked as I witnessed recently as one was snatched from the bird table by said farm 'kitten' now a full grown cat.

If my dog did this amount of damage to wildlife I'm sure there would be outrage, and rightly so, but pussy cats are immune, apparently, from any sanction.
So it's totally ok for some to set his dog on someone's pet cat?
No, but is it totally ok for some **** to allow their cat to attack wildlife in other peoples' gardens?

TheJimi

24,864 posts

242 months

Wednesday 13th November 2019
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pequod said:
TheJimi said:
pequod said:
nute said:
I’m sure the majority of cat lovers don’t give a second thought to the suffering their well fed cat inflicts on the wildlife in not only their garden but that of the surrounding neighbours, maiming whatever it can catch and then playing with it until it gets bored and wanders off.

I don’t agree for one moment with what the moron in the OP did, he deserves everything he gets, just pointing out the inconsistency of some posts here.
As you say, the majority of cat lovers have no idea the impact their pet has on wildlife.

My garden used to have a large variety of wildlife including ground feeding birds and lizards such as slow worms and the common lizard. Toads too. Since a neighbour decided to make an Xmas gift of two farm kittens the wildlife count is near zero. No longer the green woodpecker, blackbird, thrush will visit our garden or nest, and the hedge sparrows, siskins, tits, and robin are constantly being attacked as I witnessed recently as one was snatched from the bird table by said farm 'kitten' now a full grown cat.

If my dog did this amount of damage to wildlife I'm sure there would be outrage, and rightly so, but pussy cats are immune, apparently, from any sanction.
So it's totally ok for some to set his dog on someone's pet cat?
No, but is it totally ok for some **** to allow their cat to attack wildlife in other peoples' gardens?
You can't compare someone deliberately setting a dog onto a cat with a cat hunting other animals of it's own volition.

Two totally different things.



pequod

8,956 posts

137 months

Wednesday 13th November 2019
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TheJimi said:
pequod said:
TheJimi said:
pequod said:
nute said:
I’m sure the majority of cat lovers don’t give a second thought to the suffering their well fed cat inflicts on the wildlife in not only their garden but that of the surrounding neighbours, maiming whatever it can catch and then playing with it until it gets bored and wanders off.

I don’t agree for one moment with what the moron in the OP did, he deserves everything he gets, just pointing out the inconsistency of some posts here.
As you say, the majority of cat lovers have no idea the impact their pet has on wildlife.

My garden used to have a large variety of wildlife including ground feeding birds and lizards such as slow worms and the common lizard. Toads too. Since a neighbour decided to make an Xmas gift of two farm kittens the wildlife count is near zero. No longer the green woodpecker, blackbird, thrush will visit our garden or nest, and the hedge sparrows, siskins, tits, and robin are constantly being attacked as I witnessed recently as one was snatched from the bird table by said farm 'kitten' now a full grown cat.

If my dog did this amount of damage to wildlife I'm sure there would be outrage, and rightly so, but pussy cats are immune, apparently, from any sanction.
So it's totally ok for some to set his dog on someone's pet cat?
No, but is it totally ok for some **** to allow their cat to attack wildlife in other peoples' gardens?
You can't compare someone deliberately setting a dog onto a cat with a cat hunting other animals of it's own volition.

Two totally different things.
Nope, the end result is still the same. You clearly wish to defend the cats natural tendency to hunt, whatever devastation it causes to wildlife in their hunting ground, and despite my wish that wildlife are unmolested on my property, you are happy to allow it.

I believe that is equivalent to some arse who trains his dog to attack cats.

Zirconia

36,010 posts

283 months

Wednesday 13th November 2019
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Tiddles probably can’t hold a candle to what we do to wildlife.

TheJimi

24,864 posts

242 months

Wednesday 13th November 2019
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pequod said:
TheJimi said:
pequod said:
TheJimi said:
pequod said:
nute said:
I’m sure the majority of cat lovers don’t give a second thought to the suffering their well fed cat inflicts on the wildlife in not only their garden but that of the surrounding neighbours, maiming whatever it can catch and then playing with it until it gets bored and wanders off.

I don’t agree for one moment with what the moron in the OP did, he deserves everything he gets, just pointing out the inconsistency of some posts here.
As you say, the majority of cat lovers have no idea the impact their pet has on wildlife.

My garden used to have a large variety of wildlife including ground feeding birds and lizards such as slow worms and the common lizard. Toads too. Since a neighbour decided to make an Xmas gift of two farm kittens the wildlife count is near zero. No longer the green woodpecker, blackbird, thrush will visit our garden or nest, and the hedge sparrows, siskins, tits, and robin are constantly being attacked as I witnessed recently as one was snatched from the bird table by said farm 'kitten' now a full grown cat.

If my dog did this amount of damage to wildlife I'm sure there would be outrage, and rightly so, but pussy cats are immune, apparently, from any sanction.
So it's totally ok for some to set his dog on someone's pet cat?
No, but is it totally ok for some **** to allow their cat to attack wildlife in other peoples' gardens?
You can't compare someone deliberately setting a dog onto a cat with a cat hunting other animals of it's own volition.

Two totally different things.
Nope, the end result is still the same. You clearly wish to defend the cats natural tendency to hunt, whatever devastation it causes to wildlife in their hunting ground, and despite my wish that wildlife are unmolested on my property, you are happy to allow it.

I believe that is equivalent to some arse who trains his dog to attack cats.
WTF? Ok, clearly this is gonna be a waste of time.

I'm out.

Mort7

1,487 posts

107 months

Wednesday 13th November 2019
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pequod said:
Nope, the end result is still the same. You clearly wish to defend the cats natural tendency to hunt, whatever devastation it causes to wildlife in their hunting ground, and despite my wish that wildlife are unmolested on my property, you are happy to allow it.

I believe that is equivalent to some arse who trains his dog to attack cats.
Cat behaviour is instinctive. Human behaviour is considerative. You can't accurately compare someone who makes a conscious decision to encourage their dog to kill a cat to satisfy their own sadistic desires with a cat which is hard-wired to behave in a certain way when confronted with specific stimuli.

pequod

8,956 posts

137 months

Wednesday 13th November 2019
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Mort7 said:
pequod said:
Nope, the end result is still the same. You clearly wish to defend the cats natural tendency to hunt, whatever devastation it causes to wildlife in their hunting ground, and despite my wish that wildlife are unmolested on my property, you are happy to allow it.

I believe that is equivalent to some arse who trains his dog to attack cats.
Cat behaviour is instinctive. Human behaviour is considerative. You can't accurately compare someone who makes a conscious decision to encourage their dog to kill a cat to satisfy their own sadistic desires with a cat which is hard-wired to behave in a certain way when confronted with specific stimuli.
Of course, but as I said above, the end result is animals and birds being killed. Whether rare species of wildlife that visit our gardens are important is subjective but I am trying to do my bit to help the dwindling numbers, despite the local cat population.
Killing cats by training a dog or by any other method is, of course, abhorrent too. How do we stop domestic cats from decimating wildlife is the question that is yet to be addressed and whilst we continue to excuse this by saying that cat behaviour is instinctive doesn't wash, IMHO, otherwise one could argue that the wolf (now conditioned to be a domestic dog) killing whatever it can catch, whether trained or not, is also instinctive.