V12 Vantage Supply

[woodsypedia]

I generally keep an eye out on used.astonmartin.com and autotrader, and it seems supply of the original 6 speed model is drying up. I’m guessing folks are holding onto them? Interested to know the consensus given PH doesn’t do polls

Cheers

Chris.

[joinery80]

I think people are keeping hold of them hoping the values will go up.

[Minglar]

I’m holding on to mine for now. Was thinking about moving to a Vanquish or maybe a Vanquish S, and the new Vantage is growing on me, especially after seeing ArgieBargy’s manual 59 version. But for now I will keep mine. Cost to change is probably going to be horrid, and I am still very happy with my car. Not so sure about values though. The whole car market is finding it tough going, and I can’t see V12V values rising any time soon, if at all. AM dealers don’t seem to want them. Some of the recent trade in values that have been offered have been very low, and this will only force owners to hold on to them. Bincenzo’s lovely V12VR springs to mind as a recent example of where the dealers are pricing them.

Best Regards

Minglar

Edited by Minglar on Tuesday 19th November 08:28

Edited by Minglar on Tuesday 19th November 08:30

[RobDown]

People are scrapping them Chris, not worth keeping them going. If you like I’ll save you the bother and take yours off your hands for £100?

[Bincenzo]

I think Minglar is absolutely spot on. It's a horrible time to be trying to trade certain cars and the dealerships simply don't have the time, energy or desire to further fill the forecourts with last gen cars when they have such huge new car targets to meet. If they do accept them, the trade in value is often eye-watering, particularly for those that thought the depreciation had already happened on their cars. Trade in prices are very low, as this promotes a quick onwards sale from the dealer, but still guarantees a decent dealer margin. Sadly it also has the effect of dragging residual prices down, which is great if you're buying, but soul destroying if you want to sell.

Chris, mine's staying put for the moment, but I'm constantly on the lookout for deals on new Vantage or a V12VS. If I could do a straight swap on a decent specced version of either, I'd probably do it. Mine is a mega car, but like many others on here, I like to keep things moving and love the variety of driving different cars.

I think we'll see less V12s for sale over the coming months until the market decides what they're actually worth when things become a little more buoyant (if that ever happens!). Still, it's not a bad car to be 'stuck with'......

[woodsypedia]

Thanks folks. Like some others, mine isn’t going anywhere. I love the formula of the car and even when the new Vantage finds its way into the stable, I’m holding onto the V12V. Just keen to hear the thought process others have.

Rob - your generosity exceeds your personal beauty - thank you

[RobDown]

By some margin

[nickv8]

Relative, in my mind. My V8VS value has dropped probably 30% in 18 months (if handing it it back to a MD for p/x), but then some of the MD V12VS stock is starting to look unmissable. Even if they continue to drop...

Admittedly I’m looking for a SportShift.

And there’s one special one lingering to a forecourt for over a year. It’s dropped 25k but is still completely OTT in price, IMHO, compared to comparable “standard” V12VS cars. And that’s the pricing double-edged sword right there

[cayman-black]

Well, i was sat in mine just yesterday looking around the interior, leather everywhere, carbon door pulls, Alcantara headlining ,piano black dash, those lovely classic dials, great big gearknob. Then outside all the carbon rear diffuser front apron, those lovely carbon bonnet vents, christ get all this stuff on a Ferrari or Mclaren would cost you a fortune. On top of this, the car is perfectly made as i can't find any faults and beautiful to look at. What's not to love?
I love mine!
No wonder people are keeping them.

[RSbandit]

I'm currently looking at changing to a 570s from my V12VS but as mentioned the part ex I'm being offered isnt very appetizing and some dealers don't even want to take the car! Of course it's not a bad car to be stuck with and the spec on those models with all the carbon and leather is very nice indeed...might stick it up for private sale to see if I get any bites.

[stormblack]

Bincenzo said:

I think Minglar is absolutely spot on. It's a horrible time to be trying to trade certain cars and the dealerships simply don't have the time, energy or desire to further fill the forecourts with last gen cars when they have such huge new car targets to meet. If they do accept them, the trade in value is often eye-watering, particularly for those that thought the depreciation had already happened on their cars. Trade in prices are very low, as this promotes a quick onwards sale from the dealer, but still guarantees a decent dealer margin. Sadly it also has the effect of dragging residual prices down, which is great if you're buying, but soul destroying if you want to sell.

Chris, mine's staying put for the moment, but I'm constantly on the lookout for deals on new Vantage or a V12VS. If I could do a straight swap on a decent specced version of either, I'd probably do it. Mine is a mega car, but like many others on here, I like to keep things moving and love the variety of driving different cars.

I think we'll see less V12s for sale over the coming months until the market decides what they're actually worth when things become a little more buoyant (if that ever happens!). Still, it's not a bad car to be 'stuck with'......

Totally agree with this. Worth holding onto the V12V for the time being. But things may change after December 12 for the better depending on the vote. But it will be worth scrap metal if Comrade Corbyn gets into power.

[stormblack]

cayman-black said:

Well, i was sat in mine just yesterday looking around the interior, leather everywhere, carbon door pulls, Alcantara headlining ,piano black dash, those lovely classic dials, great big gearknob. Then outside all the carbon rear diffuser front apron, those lovely carbon bonnet vents, christ get all this stuff on a Ferrari or Mclaren would cost you a fortune. On top of this, the car is perfectly made as i can't find any faults and beautiful to look at. What's not to love?
I love mine!
No wonder people are keeping them.

Another great reason for holding onto these special cars!

[Buster73]

joinery80 said:

I think people are keeping hold of them hoping the values will go up.

There was me thinking they hold on to them hoping the values drop even further ...

[cayman-black]

Only one coupe on the AM site now. Are these the only cars that are selling right now, seems so.

[woodsypedia]

cayman-black said:

Only one coupe on the AM site now. Are these the only cars that are selling right now, seems so.

That's my thought too. This is great news. I don't care about values - but it's good to know they're sought after.

[KevinBird]

The six speed gearbox is so much better than the seven speed so don't sell if you have one, these and DBS manuals are the ones to have

I thought the car that sold at the Silverstone Auction for £53K all in was a bargain, 997.2 Carrera S money!

The Pirelli Corsa's and stock suspension are now ancient tech so if you're feeling adventurous, just add Michelin Pilot 4S's and Exe-TC suspension and you'll have the perfect car

Edited by KevinBird on Tuesday 19th November 19:10

[joinery80]

That auction car is sure to pop up in classifieds soon for 59 ish

[Exitleft]

joinery80 said:

That auction car is sure to pop up in classifieds soon for 59 ish

It was sold at auction by a dealer.

[woodsypedia]

Exitleft said:

It was sold at auction by a dealer.

Good to know - thanks. I wonder if this was ever listed on the Timeless Approved section and just didn't sell - or if it was deemed not cost efficient to resolve niggles and put a warranty on it for sale.

[Jon39]

woodsypedia said:

Good to know - thanks. I wonder if this was ever listed on the Timeless Approved section and just didn't sell - or if it was deemed not cost efficient to resolve niggles and put a warranty on it for sale.

There is occasionally another reason. Dealer might require some cash quickly.

Some of the big dealer groups operate a policy of, any trade-ins outside their own franchise(s) go immediately to auction.
It streamlines their system. That might have been the situation here.