Boris Johnson- Prime Minister (Vol. 3)

Boris Johnson- Prime Minister (Vol. 3)

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Cold

15,247 posts

90 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Flip Martian said:
How can anyone seriously question that story now? THe hospital said it was true. The tories have been found to have spread false tweets that it was a set up when it wasn't, and Matt Hancock, flying to the rescue invents a story about 1 of his staff being assaulted by Labour protestors, when again, it's since been proven nothing of the sort happened.

All of that is lies and HAS to be indefensible in any democracy, surely?!
Read their statement. They really didn't say it was true. To reach that conclusion is making a step where there isn't one.
They didn't give a reason as to why the boy was sleeping on coats, nor why the picture was taken. All they said was that there was temporarily a shortage of beds due to an influx of more urgent cases. This was a matter of hours, not days or weeks.

Mum of the boy has said he chose to sleep on the coats as he found them more comfy than sitting on the chairs.

This particular storm really has been blown out of its teacup and unfortunately more than one political party has attempted to make gain from it.


Zirconia

36,010 posts

284 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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^^^
One party put a massive drive in this to discredit it. Look how far Alison Pearson (Telegraph) and the Tom Newton Dunn and Guido went with their followers.

Edit. Forgot link
https://firstdraftnews.org/latest/how-two-disinfor...

Flip Martian

19,673 posts

190 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Vanden Saab said:
You seem to be making things up.... as far as I can see from the reports Matt Hancock was in a car travelling somewhere else and did not know about and had nothing to do with the claims. I am happy to be proved wrong if there is video of him 'inventing' the story...
You need video of him inventing a story that's already been debunked. Classic PH NPE...

vonuber

17,868 posts

165 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Is Boris' negotiating tactic with the EU going to be hide until it hopefully goes away?

Vanden Saab

14,077 posts

74 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Flip Martian said:
Vanden Saab said:
You seem to be making things up.... as far as I can see from the reports Matt Hancock was in a car travelling somewhere else and did not know about and had nothing to do with the claims. I am happy to be proved wrong if there is video of him 'inventing' the story...
You need video of him inventing a story that's already been debunked. Classic PH NPE...
You said he invented the story, which seems to be a lie, in a post complaining about him and others lying...hilarious...

mikal83

5,340 posts

252 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Flip Martian said:
How can anyone seriously question that story now? THe hospital said it was true. The tories have been found to have spread false tweets that it was a set up when it wasn't, and Matt Hancock, flying to the rescue invents a story about 1 of his staff being assaulted by Labour protestors, when again, it's since been proven nothing of the sort happened.

All of that is lies and HAS to be indefensible in any democracy, surely?!
You forgot to drop a "coward" in there as well. Do try harder.

gooner1

10,223 posts

179 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Vanden Saab said:
Flip Martian said:
Vanden Saab said:
You seem to be making things up.... as far as I can see from the reports Matt Hancock was in a car travelling somewhere else and did not know about and had nothing to do with the claims. I am happy to be proved wrong if there is video of him 'inventing' the story...
You need video of him inventing a story that's already been debunked. Classic PH NPE...
You said he invented the story, which seems to be a lie, in a post complaining about him and others lying...hilarious...
The lies seem to have been born from the omitted fact that young Jack was originally being treated
in a bed. Why is there no photo of that I wonder. scratchchin

Cupramax

10,480 posts

252 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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vonuber said:
Is Boris' negotiating tactic with the EU going to be hide until it hopefully goes away?
I’m guessing dhead journos door stopping you endlessly loses its charm eventually.

smn159

12,654 posts

217 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Cold said:
Read their statement. They really didn't say it was true. To reach that conclusion is making a step where there isn't one.
They didn't give a reason as to why the boy was sleeping on coats, nor why the picture was taken. All they said was that there was temporarily a shortage of beds due to an influx of more urgent cases. This was a matter of hours, not days or weeks.

Mum of the boy has said he chose to sleep on the coats as he found them more comfy than sitting on the chairs.

This particular storm really has been blown out of its teacup and unfortunately more than one political party has attempted to make gain from it.
It's not about the boy though is it. The story is of the complete mental collapse of the prime minister when asked about something not on his script. If Johnson had looked at the picture and said something like 'that looks dreadful, I don't know all the facts but will look into it', the whole thing is a non-event.

Think about it for moment - we have a Prime Minister who folds completely at the fist sign of anything outside of his carefully scripted comfort zone.

smn159

12,654 posts

217 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Cupramax said:
vonuber said:
Is Boris' negotiating tactic with the EU going to be hide until it hopefully goes away?
I’m guessing dhead journos door stopping you endlessly loses its charm eventually.
You mean journos who want to ask you about your policies on the eve of a GE?

deadslow

7,999 posts

223 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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smn159 said:
Cold said:
Read their statement. They really didn't say it was true. To reach that conclusion is making a step where there isn't one.
They didn't give a reason as to why the boy was sleeping on coats, nor why the picture was taken. All they said was that there was temporarily a shortage of beds due to an influx of more urgent cases. This was a matter of hours, not days or weeks.

Mum of the boy has said he chose to sleep on the coats as he found them more comfy than sitting on the chairs.

This particular storm really has been blown out of its teacup and unfortunately more than one political party has attempted to make gain from it.
It's not about the boy though is it. The story is of the complete mental collapse of the prime minister when asked about something not on his script. If Johnson had looked at the picture and said something like 'that looks dreadful, I don't know all the facts but will look into it', the whole thing is a non-event.

Think about it for moment - we have a Prime Minister who folds completely at the fist sign of anything outside of his carefully scripted comfort zone.
.. and nice of them to attempt to deflect attention by accusing a perfectly innocent individual of committing assault on the little turd Hancock's lackey. Disgusting people.

pingu393

7,797 posts

205 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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smn159 said:
It's not about the boy though is it. The story is of the complete mental collapse of the prime minister when asked about something not on his script. If Johnson had looked at the picture and said something like 'that looks dreadful, I don't know all the facts but will look into it', the whole thing is a non-event.

Think about it for moment - we have a Prime Minister who folds completely at the fist sign of anything outside of his carefully scripted comfort zone.
Are you concerned that a PM might only have two seconds to make a decision based on very little information, without any prior warning?

Evanivitch

20,075 posts

122 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Cupramax said:
vonuber said:
Is Boris' negotiating tactic with the EU going to be hide until it hopefully goes away?
I’m guessing dhead journos door stopping you endlessly loses its charm eventually.
If that's all you have to do as a journalist to be a dhead, what title do we bestow upon BJ?

turbobloke

103,953 posts

260 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Evanivitch said:
Cupramax said:
vonuber said:
Is Boris' negotiating tactic with the EU going to be hide until it hopefully goes away?
I’m guessing dhead journos door stopping you endlessly loses its charm eventually.
If that's all you have to do as a journalist to be a dhead, what title do we bestow upon BJ?
dhead journalist avoider?

smn159

12,654 posts

217 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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pingu393 said:
smn159 said:
It's not about the boy though is it. The story is of the complete mental collapse of the prime minister when asked about something not on his script. If Johnson had looked at the picture and said something like 'that looks dreadful, I don't know all the facts but will look into it', the whole thing is a non-event.

Think about it for moment - we have a Prime Minister who folds completely at the fist sign of anything outside of his carefully scripted comfort zone.
Are you concerned that a PM might only have two seconds to make a decision based on very little information, without any prior warning?
Oh come off it - how much ability does it take to show some empathy when shown a photo of a sick kid. It's hardly advanced stuff is it?

How much time do you think he should have been given to consider it? A day?

gooner1

10,223 posts

179 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Evanivitch said:
Cupramax said:
vonuber said:
Is Boris' negotiating tactic with the EU going to be hide until it hopefully goes away?
I’m guessing dhead journos door stopping you endlessly loses its charm eventually.
If that's all you have to do as a journalist to be a dhead, what title do we bestow upon BJ?
L


dhead Dodger? biggrin

bitchstewie

51,207 posts

210 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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He scurried off into a Fridge.

Brave Boris.. almost Churchillian.

https://twitter.com/Rachael_Swindon/status/1204683...

BOR

4,702 posts

255 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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smn159 said:
Cold said:
Read their statement. They really didn't say it was true. To reach that conclusion is making a step where there isn't one.
They didn't give a reason as to why the boy was sleeping on coats, nor why the picture was taken. All they said was that there was temporarily a shortage of beds due to an influx of more urgent cases. This was a matter of hours, not days or weeks.

Mum of the boy has said he chose to sleep on the coats as he found them more comfy than sitting on the chairs.

This particular storm really has been blown out of its teacup and unfortunately more than one political party has attempted to make gain from it.
It's not about the boy though is it. The story is of the complete mental collapse of the prime minister when asked about something not on his script. If Johnson had looked at the picture and said something like 'that looks dreadful, I don't know all the facts but will look into it', the whole thing is a non-event.

Think about it for moment - we have a Prime Minister who folds completely at the fist sign of anything outside of his carefully scripted comfort zone.
The story is how incredibly quickly twitter accounts were mobilised to spaff out the "I'm an ex-nurse and..." deflections to the extent that millions of people slurp down on this st rather than believing the source of the original story.

And yet again, these orchestrated tory lie-bots came close to getting some more mud to stick.

If you were one of the people who believed the twitter accounts until they were caught out, ask yourself what else they have lied to you about.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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smn159 said:
It's not about the boy though is it. The story is of the complete mental collapse of the prime minister when asked about something not on his script. If Johnson had looked at the picture and said something like 'that looks dreadful, I don't know all the facts but will look into it', the whole thing is a non-event.

Think about it for moment - we have a Prime Minister who folds completely at the fist sign of anything outside of his carefully scripted comfort zone.
This.

As far as Boris Johnson, our returning PM in waiting and the subject of this thread is concerned, It all boils down to this.




bitchstewie

51,207 posts

210 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Flip Martian said:
Vanden Saab said:
You seem to be making things up.... as far as I can see from the reports Matt Hancock was in a car travelling somewhere else and did not know about and had nothing to do with the claims. I am happy to be proved wrong if there is video of him 'inventing' the story...
You need video of him inventing a story that's already been debunked. Classic PH NPE...
Everyone has a mobile phone or computer because they're on here.

Everyone has access to Twitter.

There are videos of what actually happened all over Twitter.

Yet still people don't seem to be able to check the basics but will believe whatever "facts" backup their "side".
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