Boris Johnson- Prime Minister (Vol. 3)
Discussion
Burwood said:
Have you seen the range of food available today? You can buy Wagu beef to reconstituted 'animal' trimmings which is pretty close to dog food. If you don't like a particular offering, here's a novel idea, don't buy it. There are 100s of foods available from main supermarkets which are very bad for you.
The facts are that Chlorinated(washed) chicken is harmless because to get even close to a harmful amount (raw and we don't eat raw chicken) you have to consume 4000g daily. The real issue is that chlorine is used to counter poorer animal welfare standards. My source: The Adam Smith Instute which is ever so slightly more credible that Momentum loons So wrong about food. There is no evidence drug prices would rise.
You are simply spouting the Labour doctrine. All based on faith.
Quick, you have 9.5 hours to save the NHS
Just a quick question. Is that the same Adam Smith institute that would like to privatise the NHS?The facts are that Chlorinated(washed) chicken is harmless because to get even close to a harmful amount (raw and we don't eat raw chicken) you have to consume 4000g daily. The real issue is that chlorine is used to counter poorer animal welfare standards. My source: The Adam Smith Instute which is ever so slightly more credible that Momentum loons So wrong about food. There is no evidence drug prices would rise.
You are simply spouting the Labour doctrine. All based on faith.
Quick, you have 9.5 hours to save the NHS
https://www.adamsmith.org/blog/uncategorized/how-t...
robemcdonald said:
Just a quick question. Is that the same Adam Smith ?????????????????? that would like to privatise the NHS?
https://www.adamsmith.org/blog/uncategorized/how-t...
Read the article and it means 'privatisation' in the sense ofhttps://www.adamsmith.org/blog/uncategorized/how-t...
Article said:
keep the current tax based financing system but open up provision of services to anyone who wishes to do so. Charities, for profit companies, doctors' and workers' cooperatives (Circle being a combination of those last two), the State itself:
Which is roughly what happens to most European countries.robemcdonald said:
Just a quick question. Is that the same Adam Smith institute that would like to privatise the NHS?
https://www.adamsmith.org/blog/uncategorized/how-t...
Ad-hom, based on an irrational fear of privatisation... which is hilarious, because Blair did more to move the NHS to private ownership than Cameron, May and Boris ever have.https://www.adamsmith.org/blog/uncategorized/how-t...
rscott said:
S1KRR said:
gooner1 said:
I must admit I never knew that the postal votes were counted beforehand. Assumed they were chucked into a box in the relevant ward and counted with all the "on the day" votesWhilst she may have committed an offence by mentioning it, she's only saying what people are telling her. And it's not "proof" so I don't see it as a big thing really.
You'd think she'd have learned to think before commenting, especially after the Hancock 'assault' incident.
Revealing information that can influence voting is just not on and is ‘a big thing’ which is why she and the BBC have been warned.
Escort3500 said:
Burwood said:
kuro68k said:
How are we going to get these wonderful trade deals when Boris has insulted all the countries and leaders we need to get them from?
Oh that's right, he has already offered them higher medicine prices and lower food standards to sweeten the deal!
Have you seen the range of food available today? You can buy Wagu beef to reconstituted 'animal' trimmings which is pretty close to dog food. If you don't like a particular offering, here's a novel idea, don't buy it. There are 100s of foods available from main supermarkets which are very bad for you. Oh that's right, he has already offered them higher medicine prices and lower food standards to sweeten the deal!
The facts are that Chlorinated(washed) chicken is harmless because to get even close to a harmful amount (raw and we don't eat raw chicken) you have to consume 4000g daily. The real issue is that chlorine is used to counter poorer animal welfare standards. My source: The Adam Smith Instute which is ever so slightly more credible that Momentum loons So wrong about food. There is no evidence drug prices would rise.
You are simply spouting the Labour doctrine. All based on faith.
Quick, you have 9.5 hours to save the NHS
ChevyChase77 said:
I'm worried for my safety too..... Keep following me around the board quoting me.
But you are such fun to chase Chevy.It’s always amusing when resident loons in their various returning guises accuse others of being odd for having the temerity to recall their peculiar posting styles.
ChevyChase77 said:
vonuber said:
ChevyChase77 said:
I'm far more concerned over Labours' intentions for the safety of this country than the NHS or treating chicken meat.
What, are they closing Wetherspoons?Alternatively, I'm sure there's a fridge or Wetherspoons you can hide in.
ChevyChase77 said:
I'm far more concerned over Labours' intentions for the safety of this country than the NHS or treating chicken meat.
Where are you going to go when the chlorinated chicken makes you ill?This would actually be hilarious if it wasn't so sad. Gutter press has convinced people that we would actually be in physical danger if Corbyn got in, despite the Tories having cut 20,000 police officers and decimated the legal system to the point where terrorists get mistakenly let out early and start murdering people.
ChevyChase77 said:
vonuber said:
ChevyChase77 said:
I'm far more concerned over Labours' intentions for the safety of this country than the NHS or treating chicken meat.
What, are they closing Wetherspoons?kuro68k said:
Where are you going to go when the chlorinated chicken makes you ill?
Do you actually have the first clue what chlorinated chicken actually is? I presume you don't eat salad.....
kuro68k said:
This would actually be hilarious if it wasn't so sad. Gutter press has convinced people that we would actually be in physical danger if Corbyn got in, despite the Tories having cut 20,000 police officers and decimated the legal system to the point where terrorists get mistakenly let out early and start murdering people.
You are aware that the most recent incident was as a result of a man who was released under the scheme that labour introduced, aren't you? Look, it's a bit late now. You could have joined this debate months ago. Who knows, you could have made a real difference with your incisive questioning and in depth knowledge of these topics..
Burwood said:
Escort3500 said:
Burwood said:
kuro68k said:
How are we going to get these wonderful trade deals when Boris has insulted all the countries and leaders we need to get them from?
Oh that's right, he has already offered them higher medicine prices and lower food standards to sweeten the deal!
Have you seen the range of food available today? You can buy Wagu beef to reconstituted 'animal' trimmings which is pretty close to dog food. If you don't like a particular offering, here's a novel idea, don't buy it. There are 100s of foods available from main supermarkets which are very bad for you. Oh that's right, he has already offered them higher medicine prices and lower food standards to sweeten the deal!
The facts are that Chlorinated(washed) chicken is harmless because to get even close to a harmful amount (raw and we don't eat raw chicken) you have to consume 4000g daily. The real issue is that chlorine is used to counter poorer animal welfare standards. My source: The Adam Smith Instute which is ever so slightly more credible that Momentum loons So wrong about food. There is no evidence drug prices would rise.
You are simply spouting the Labour doctrine. All based on faith.
Quick, you have 9.5 hours to save the NHS
Escort3500 said:
snip
the Tories will spend in other areas (as per their manifesto) and continue to run down the NHS so it’ll be ripe for privatisation.
Who's going to buy the NHS? What will they be buying? Is it the Americans? the Tories will spend in other areas (as per their manifesto) and continue to run down the NHS so it’ll be ripe for privatisation.
You do know that Labour has done far more to 'privatise' the NHS that the Tories/Lib Dems don't you?
Teasing aside, why MUST the NHS be run by Government? (of any colour rosette)
Surely what you want is a healthcare system that is genuinely excellent, achieves world leading results, is funded by the exchequer and completely free of charge at the point of use?
If I showed you categorical proof that (say) McDonald's could deliver these outcomes within the current funding envelope, would you still be resistant to 'privatisation'?
andymadmak said:
You are aware that the most recent incident was as a result of a man who was released under the scheme that labour introduced, aren't you?
You mean the scheme that the Tories were so concerned about that they haven't changed it in 9 years?Or the one for which clear reforms are included in their manifesto?
That's before starting on the cuts to all of the probation and support services that may have picked up on this guy
But apart from that, it's clearly all Labour's fault
kuro68k said:
ChevyChase77 said:
I'm far more concerned over Labours' intentions for the safety of this country than the NHS or treating chicken meat.
Where are you going to go when the chlorinated chicken makes you ill?This would actually be hilarious if it wasn't so sad. Gutter press has convinced people that we would actually be in physical danger if Corbyn got in, despite the Tories having cut 20,000 police officers and decimated the legal system to the point where terrorists get mistakenly let out early and start murdering people.
Are you really that deluded?
smn159 said:
andymadmak said:
You are aware that the most recent incident was as a result of a man who was released under the scheme that labour introduced, aren't you?
You mean the scheme that the Tories were so concerned about that they haven't changed it in 9 years?Or the one for which clear reforms are included in their manifesto?
That's before starting on the cuts to all of the probation and support services that may have picked up on this guy
But apart from that, it's clearly all Labour's fault
What happened on the bridge (and beforehand) is entirely the fault of the man wielding the knives.
andymadmak said:
Who's going to buy the NHS? What will they be buying? Is it the Americans?
You do know that Labour has done far more to 'privatise' the NHS that the Tories/Lib Dems don't you?
Teasing aside, why MUST the NHS be run by Government? (of any colour rosette)
Surely what you want is a healthcare system that is genuinely excellent, achieves world leading results, is funded by the exchequer and completely free of charge at the point of use?
If I showed you categorical proof that (say) McDonald's could deliver these outcomes within the current funding envelope, would you still be resistant to 'privatisation'?
That’s a business plan I would love to see.You do know that Labour has done far more to 'privatise' the NHS that the Tories/Lib Dems don't you?
Teasing aside, why MUST the NHS be run by Government? (of any colour rosette)
Surely what you want is a healthcare system that is genuinely excellent, achieves world leading results, is funded by the exchequer and completely free of charge at the point of use?
If I showed you categorical proof that (say) McDonald's could deliver these outcomes within the current funding envelope, would you still be resistant to 'privatisation'?
Brooking10 said:
That’s a business plan I would love to see.
Couldn't do worse than Corbyn's lot. Who will just throw money at it to be consumed by more and more inefficient processes, middle management and crap procurement. Throwing more money at it will not fix the problems in the NHS. But the changes it needs are not palatable because everyone has been indoctrinated with "NHS good, any attempt to change or reform it is evil".
TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
Brooking10 said:
That’s a business plan I would love to see.
Couldn't do worse than Corbyn's lot. Who will just throw money at it to be consumed by more and more inefficient processes, middle management and crap procurement. Throwing more money at it will not fix the problems in the NHS. But the changes it needs are not palatable because everyone has been indoctrinated with "NHS good, any attempt to change or reform it is evil".
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