Boris Johnson- Prime Minister (Vol. 3)

[anonymous-user]

Smells of new paint in here. Is is just that that is giving us all splitting headaches?

Loving the Tories' link to a fakey version of the Labour Manifesto. Tories, the Party of trust. Boris Johnson, the honest Prime Minister.

[IforB]

Is anyone still suggesting that Boris Johnson is capable of telling the truth?

The man is still a pathological liar even here in volume 3...

[anonymous-user]

IforB said:

Is anyone still suggesting that Boris Johnson is capable of telling the truth?

The man is still a pathological liar even here in volume 3...

None of that matters to his fans. He will "Get Brexit done". Even that is a lie, but the fans don't care.

In other news, Raab wants to pursue the parents of Harry Dunn for costs if they lose their judicial review challenge, arising from the death of their son in a traffic accident followed by the swift departure of the American motorist who mowed the young bloke down while she drove on the wrong side of the road. The parents are a maintenance engineer and a GP's receptionist. Strivers. Natural Tory target voters, you might think.

In public interest cases, the Government often agrees not to seek costs if it wins. But Raab says that he must protect taxpayer funds. This from the same outfit that spaffed mega millions on Brexit by end of October ads, spaffed on ferries that do not exist, spaffed on an aircraft carrier that has no aircraft, etc , etc. Also Raab says that the Government is legally in the right. Maybe it is. Who knows? Of course, this Government never loses legal cases, does it?

[IforB]

Breadvan72 said:

IforB said:

Is anyone still suggesting that Boris Johnson is capable of telling the truth?

The man is still a pathological liar even here in volume 3...

None of that matters to his fans. He will "Get Brexit done". Even that is a lie, but the fans don't care.

In other news, Raab wants to pursue the parents of Harry Dunn for costs if they lose their judicial review challenge, arising from the death of their son in a traffic accident followed by the swift departure of the American motorist who mowed the young bloke down while she drove on the wrong side of the road. The parents are a maintenance engineer and a GP's receptionist. Strivers. Natural Tory target voters, you might think.

In public interest cases, the Government often agrees not to seek costs if it wins. But Raab says that he must protect taxpayer funds. This from the same outfit that spaffed mega millions on Brexit by end of October ads, spaffed on ferries that do not exist, spaffed on an aircraft carrier that has no aircraft, etc , etc. Also Raab says that the Government is legally in the right. Maybe it is. Who knows? Of course, this Government never loses legal cases, does it?

If Raab told me that water was wet, I'd check it before I believed him. The man appears to be an actual, real-life, gold-plated moron. Thick as two short planks and with what appears to be a nasty streak in him. He's obviously got the compassion and human interaction skills of your average rattle snake with this little stunt.

Doesn't really help with the idea that the Tories couldn't give two hoots about actual people does it... Mind you, the cabinet appears to be stuffed full of sociopaths, so it is ops normal for them to be simply awful at the pretending to be human thing.

[andymadmak]

Breadvan72 said:

In other news, Raab wants to pursue the parents of Harry Dunn for costs if they lose their judicial review challenge, arising from the death of their son in a traffic accident followed by the swift departure of the American motorist who mowed the young bloke down while she drove on the wrong side of the road. The parents are a maintenance engineer and a GP's receptionist. Strivers. Natural Tory target voters, you might think.

Curious about your concern here - given your view that relatives/loved ones are not victims

[bitchstewie]

Breadvan72 said:

None of that matters to his fans. He will "Get Brexit done". Even that is a lie, but the fans don't care.

In other news, Raab wants to pursue the parents of Harry Dunn for costs if they lose their judicial review challenge, arising from the death of their son in a traffic accident followed by the swift departure of the American motorist who mowed the young bloke down while she drove on the wrong side of the road. The parents are a maintenance engineer and a GP's receptionist. Strivers. Natural Tory target voters, you might think.

In public interest cases, the Government often agrees not to seek costs if it wins. But Raab says that he must protect taxpayer funds. This from the same outfit that spaffed mega millions on Brexit by end of October ads, spaffed on ferries that do not exist, spaffed on an aircraft carrier that has no aircraft, etc , etc. Also Raab says that the Government is legally in the right. Maybe it is. Who knows? Of course, this Government never loses legal cases, does it?

This is a nice touch from Priti Patel.

https://twitter.com/BBCNWT/status/1197464428935045...

I mean who wouldn't vote for that?

[Peter911]

Breadvan72 said:

IforB said:

Is anyone still suggesting that Boris Johnson is capable of telling the truth?

The man is still a pathological liar even here in volume 3...

None of that matters to his fans. He will "Get Brexit done". Even that is a lie, but the fans don't care.

In other news, Raab wants to pursue the parents of Harry Dunn for costs if they lose their judicial review challenge, arising from the death of their son in a traffic accident followed by the swift departure of the American motorist who mowed the young bloke down while she drove on the wrong side of the road. The parents are a maintenance engineer and a GP's receptionist. Strivers. Natural Tory target voters, you might think.

In public interest cases, the Government often agrees not to seek costs if it wins. But Raab says that he must protect taxpayer funds. This from the same outfit that spaffed mega millions on Brexit by end of October ads, spaffed on ferries that do not exist, spaffed on an aircraft carrier that has no aircraft, etc , etc. Also Raab says that the Government is legally in the right. Maybe it is. Who knows? Of course, this Government never loses legal cases, does it?

It won't bring him back. I don't see why I should have to pay their legal fees.

[TTwiggy]

Peter911 said:

It won't bring him back. I don't see why I should have to pay their legal fees.

You're not paying them.

[anonymous-user]

TTwiggy said:

Peter911 said:

It won't bring him back. I don't see why I should have to pay their legal fees.

You're not paying them.

This.

You are paying a very tiny percentage of the legal fees of the Government. The case is not aimed to bring the dead man back. It is to ask the Government for some transparency about why the driver was able to hoof it.

[anonymous-user]

If (note if) the Court finds that the Government have cocked up, then we shall each of us be paying a very tiny percentage of the parents' legal fees. I do not have a beef with that.

[anonymous-user]

andymadmak said:

Curious about your concern here - given your view that relatives/loved ones are not victims

That is not a view that I have ever held or expressed, so you will have to ask someone else. While you are at it, look up piss taking 101. It can come in handy when adventuring on the internet. HTH.

[IforB]

Peter911 said:

It won't bring him back. I don't see why I should have to pay their legal fees.

You won't be paying their legal fees as already pointed out. What Raab is saying is that in the event of a court finding against the parents, then Raab will go after them to recover the Government's legal costs.

Now, given that this lady appears to have naffed off and claimed diplomatic protection, despite potentially not actually having it, then it would be interesting to know why the Government has done zero to bring her back so that she can be asked questions as part of a normal Police investigation.

I don't know about you, but anyone from another country disappearing and using the old "Diplomatic Immunity" phrase to simply avoid being questioned by Police or prosecuted for breaking UK laws doesn't really sit right anyway, let alone when a British citizen has been killed and the person who looks to have done it has scarpered and may not really have been allowed to use that particular little loophole.

If someone commits or is suspected of committing a crime in the UK, then surely our justice system should be allowed to do its job? So I am wondering why the Government is trying to bully the parents away from taking legal action that might show up that the Government aren't really trying to get this woman back and want to sweep the whole thing under the table.

Are you really be OK with that?

Edited by IforB on Thursday 21st November 16:42

[andymadmak]

Breadvan72 said:

andymadmak said:

Curious about your concern here - given your view that relatives/loved ones are not victims

That is not a view that I have ever held or expressed, so you will have to ask someone else. While you are at it, look up piss taking 101. It can come in handy when adventuring on the internet. HTH.

Ahh, I see you're hiding behind your "I wuz only joking, honest!" defence.
Never mind, it's not the kind of things I would make jokes about personally, or take the piss out of, but each to their own I suppose.

[Gargamel]

Breadvan72 said:

If (note if) the Court finds that the Government have cocked up, then we shall each of us be paying a very tiny percentage of the parents' legal fees. I do not have a beef with that.

Agreed, it never ceases to amaze me that these people run focus groups and spend millions on campaigns to shake their ‘nasty party’ tag. Then go and do this kind of thing. It’s like an empathy bypass.

Disappointing. Who is running PR for these fools?

[Gerradi]

The reaction to the bus photo makes you appear very concerned about those lot...you seem worried that they might actually get into power...either that or your all mindless wkers?

[bitchstewie]

Gargamel said:

Breadvan72 said:

If (note if) the Court finds that the Government have cocked up, then we shall each of us be paying a very tiny percentage of the parents' legal fees. I do not have a beef with that.

Agreed, it never ceases to amaze me that these people run focus groups and spend millions on campaigns to shake their ‘nasty party’ tag. Then go and do this kind of thing. It’s like an empathy bypass.

Disappointing. Who is running PR for these fools?

It's one of those real "What Were You Thinking?" ones where you just scratch your head.

Harry Dunn: Foreign secretary Dominic Raab defends decision to seek legal costs from grieving family

Crass and insensitive doesn't come close.

[Zirconia]

Oh those pesky young imps having fun at Tory head office creating fake web sites for the Labour Manifesto. Got to larf. I assume Boris has given it the stamp of approval.

Cummings learnt a lot from the US input I suppose.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/21/t...

[andymadmak]

Zirconia said:

Oh those pesky young imps having fun at Tory head office creating fake web sites for the Labour Manifesto. Got to larf. I assume Boris has given it the stamp of approval.

Cummings learnt a lot from the US input I suppose.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/21/t...

It's so clearly a spoof ( it says 'A website by Conservative Party in the middle of the landing page!! )
There is absolutely no way on this planet that anyone would be taken in by this and assume it was a genuine Labour site!

That being said - Once again is it factually incorrect?

1. Does Labour have a cohesive plan for Brexit?

2. Is Labour proposing higher taxes?

3. Is Labour proposing a second EU Referendum and a second Scottish Referendum?

[bitchstewie]

Zirconia said:

Oh those pesky young imps having fun at Tory head office creating fake web sites for the Labour Manifesto. Got to larf. I assume Boris has given it the stamp of approval.

Cummings learnt a lot from the US input I suppose.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/21/t...

Honestly I don't think that one is as big of an issue as the Twitter "makeover".

It seems absolutely obviously a spoof site and I think "A WEBSITE BY THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY" at the top is clear.

Someone registered conservativemanifesto.co.uk on the same date using the same registrar.

[Gerradi]

andymadmak said:

It's so clearly a spoof ( it says 'A website by Conservative Party in the middle of the landing page!! )
There is absolutely no way on this planet that anyone would be taken in by this and assume it was a genuine Labour site!

That being said - Once again is it factually incorrect?

1. Does Labour have a cohesive plan for Brexit?

2. Is Labour proposing higher taxes?

3. Is Labour proposing a second EU Referendum and a second Scottish Referendum?

Either way ..its going to bite Boris ...badly!!