Boris Johnson- Prime Minister (Vol. 3)

Boris Johnson- Prime Minister (Vol. 3)

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Zirconia

36,010 posts

284 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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Think tank fella that helped wrote the manifesto didn't like getting asked about it. Something about a new government in today and they should be concentrating on that.

turbobloke

103,942 posts

260 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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Zirconia said:
Think tank fella that helped wrote the manifesto didn't like getting asked about it. Something about a new government in today and they should be concentrating on that.
So they should. As I posted earlier, this is almost certainly gaining attention before moving on to higher priorities.

Constituency review likewise but both are worth government time down the line.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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turbobloke said:
Zirconia said:
Think tank fella that helped wrote the manifesto didn't like getting asked about it. Something about a new government in today and they should be concentrating on that.
So they should. As I posted earlier, this is almost certainly gaining attention before moving on to higher priorities.
Make your mind up !

Is it going to be privatised on Boris’ watch or not in your opinion ?


turbobloke

103,942 posts

260 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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The FT take on it is that Boris is moving to get free pensioner (75+) licences back in first. However, aside from Number 10 insiders, who knows. That miserly decision by the bbc hit 1.7 million elderly folks. Beeb social injustice could be Righted easily enough and help BBC spendthrifts to focus more on value in a changing marketplace.

Zirconia

36,010 posts

284 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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turbobloke said:
Zirconia said:
Think tank fella that helped wrote the manifesto didn't like getting asked about it. Something about a new government in today and they should be concentrating on that.
So they should. As I posted earlier, this is almost certainly gaining attention before moving on to higher priorities.

Constituency review likewise but both are worth government time down the line.
What is happening today? Not a great deal, Boris is meeting the new MP's, no Queens speech yet and not much going on in the house. Cleaners perhaps buffing up Moggs bed.

I expect it will get interesting when Liz says her bit. Friday fro the bill I think they did mention, they hope to get it mostly squared away before xmas.

Wonder what he will do to the ERG.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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turbobloke said:
The FT take on it is that Boris is moving to get free pensioner (75+) licences back in first. That miserly decision by the bbc hit 1.7 million elderly folks. Beeb social injustice could be Righted easily enough and help BBC spendthrifts to focus more on value in a changing marketplace.
I’m aware of what the FT’s perspective is on it currently.

Very straightforward question:

In your opinion will or won’t the BBC be privatised under Boris’ watch per the tabloid headline you quoted ?

turbobloke

103,942 posts

260 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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Just noticed that some reports say 3.7 million 75+ pensioners were hit by BBC social injustice, rather than 1.7 million, this may be something arising from pension credits, or not.

It's a good place to start getting sense back into aunty so hopefully Boris will keep the out-of-touch BBC in mind as other more urgent matters are dealt with.

Zirconia

36,010 posts

284 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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turbobloke said:
The FT take on it is that Boris is moving to get free pensioner (75+) licences back in first. However, aside from Number 10 insiders, who knows. That miserly decision by the bbc hit 1.7 million elderly folks. Beeb social injustice could be Righted easily enough and help BBC spendthrifts to focus more on value in a changing marketplace.
That was the BBC having the rug pulled by the Cons. A big chunk of loot removed. BBC get paid not by the fee directly but via the government. They phased out the subsidy.

turbobloke

103,942 posts

260 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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Zirconia said:
turbobloke said:
The FT take on it is that Boris is moving to get free pensioner (75+) licences back in first. However, aside from Number 10 insiders, who knows. That miserly decision by the bbc hit 1.7 million elderly folks. Beeb social injustice could be Righted easily enough and help BBC spendthrifts to focus more on value in a changing marketplace.
That was the BBC having the rug pulled by the Cons. A big chunk of loot removed. BBC get paid not by the fee directly but via the government. They phased out the subsidy.
The rug that mattered was that underneath the pensioners. The BBC has no divine right to anybody's money, something that needs attention at some point.

Vanden Saab

14,071 posts

74 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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Some of us already know Dominic Frisby from the Brexit song but you may not have seen his piece from comedy unleased... As some say well worth a listen whichever side you are on....

https://youtu.be/GE6mx6wyKmU

techguyone

3,137 posts

142 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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I believe some countries use their version of Council tax to pay for their TV/Radio, wonder if that's viable over here (no I haven't done any more than think aloud, no idea on the economics)

mikal83

5,340 posts

252 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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Zirconia said:
turbobloke said:
The FT take on it is that Boris is moving to get free pensioner (75+) licences back in first. However, aside from Number 10 insiders, who knows. That miserly decision by the bbc hit 1.7 million elderly folks. Beeb social injustice could be Righted easily enough and help BBC spendthrifts to focus more on value in a changing marketplace.
That was the BBC having the rug pulled by the Cons. A big chunk of loot removed. BBC get paid not by the fee directly but via the government. They phased out the subsidy.
The BBC pays for a taxi to take dan Walker from his Sheffield home to the studios and back every day. Monies tight they say. Nice!

Zirconia

36,010 posts

284 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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mikal83 said:
The BBC pays for a taxi to take dan Walker from his Sheffield home to the studios and back every day. Monies tight they say. Nice!
Might fry your noodle then if you knew how much chauffeur driven and taxiing goes on across all the companies.

Zirconia

36,010 posts

284 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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techguyone said:
I believe some countries use their version of Council tax to pay for their TV/Radio, wonder if that's viable over here (no I haven't done any more than think aloud, no idea on the economics)
Germany I think does this.

turbobloke

103,942 posts

260 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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Zirconia said:
techguyone said:
I believe some countries use their version of Council tax to pay for their TV/Radio, wonder if that's viable over here (no I haven't done any more than think aloud, no idea on the economics)
Germany I think does this.
It's still coercion, if the BBC is so wonderful they'll be flooded with subscription requests. It would be added to our CT which is already high enough.

The outdated forced funding mechanism should be scrapped in favour of freedom of choice.

XCP

16,914 posts

228 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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As long as there aren't adverts. I don't begrudge the licence fee and having no adverts is refreshing.

turbobloke

103,942 posts

260 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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XCP said:
As long as there aren't adverts. I don't begrudge the licence fee and having no adverts is refreshing.
A subscription service need not have any adverts. Why consider adverts, given the vast popularity of the BBC?

XCP

16,914 posts

228 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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turbobloke said:
XCP said:
As long as there aren't adverts. I don't begrudge the licence fee and having no adverts is refreshing.
A subscription service need not have any adverts. Why consider adverts, given the vast popularity of the BBC?
I may be being a bit thick but how does subscription work with radio?

Zirconia

36,010 posts

284 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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turbobloke said:
Zirconia said:
techguyone said:
I believe some countries use their version of Council tax to pay for their TV/Radio, wonder if that's viable over here (no I haven't done any more than think aloud, no idea on the economics)
Germany I think does this.
It's still coercion, if the BBC is so wonderful they'll be flooded with subscription requests. It would be added to our CT which is already high enough.

The outdated forced funding mechanism should be scrapped in favour of freedom of choice.
Time will tell what funding model comes out, the German model would add sod all to my annual costs, my rates are through the roof due to poor council funding and that is traced back to Westminster. I like a state funded broadcast (BBC remit to do a lot of stuff has benefits), you don't like it, fair enough. Lots of things I have to pay for I don't like.

A good investigation into a different model would be good and will be needed. I expect this to get a Cummings make over and be a mess. We will find out soon I expect, sod all I can do to change it and if the BBC is greatly impacted, it will be for the worse in my opinion. Nicky Morgan kept around doesn't bode well.

I see enough people on PH claiming they have stuck it to the man, if you don't like it, do the same. No skin off my nose, you can thank me for the excellent programming when you catch up on it via Netflix (if it is not bought out by another firm). BBC wildlife programs lately have been superb and the message is clear that we need to change (probably something you don't like though).


768

13,677 posts

96 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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XCP said:
turbobloke said:
XCP said:
As long as there aren't adverts. I don't begrudge the licence fee and having no adverts is refreshing.
A subscription service need not have any adverts. Why consider adverts, given the vast popularity of the BBC?
I may be being a bit thick but how does subscription work with radio?
In 2020...something? Probably by sending it over the internet.

But in other circumstances you just encrypt the broadcast and supply some cheap hardware to decrypt. Much like satellite TV, or like Sirius has been doing in the US for nearly 20 years.
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