Shootings on London Bridge
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The poor lad would have been appalled by his death fuelling hate but while these things have a history of uniting London more than anything, taking a stand against religious lunatics is inevitable, and necessary. It's not immediately obvious that the father's actions are what his one would have wanted either.
R Mutt said:
The poor lad would have been appalled by his death fuelling hate but while these things have a history of uniting London more than anything, taking a stand against religious lunatics is inevitable, and necessary. It's not immediately obvious that the father's actions are what his one would have wanted either.
Chances are that the person who helped to raise him from a baby and knew him for the whole of his life knew what he would have wanted better than anybody else.Not-The-Messiah said:
Well I'm sure you and others would also be very supportive of him if he did show support for Boris or was even more right wing saying thing like Tommy Robinson has got the right idea. Wouldn't you? I'm no doubt you would jump on the people criticising him for saying such things.
No, because I wouldn’t be as crass and lacking in empathy as you have been to be critical of the father of a murdered son.janesmith1950 said:
I suspect the father didn't know what way is to say the moment. He's probably spent a good while listening to his son tell him how the system is broken and the rehabilitation work he wants to be involved in is underfunded, under appreciated and destined to fail without a major change. The father probably found it incredibly glib of the prime minister, leading a party in power for the past 9 years, to proclaim he's now oversight bothered about something that the day before want even in his radar. Those failures, that party, could justifiably, in his eyes, be responsible for the death of house son.
I'm not surprised he would want to hit out, I would.
Do I value his opinion on who should lead the country (whichever way his support leans)? Not really.
Of course you don’t. You are a Johnson supporter. You have discarded whatever principle and decency you may once have possessed in order to support your poundland Trump, a man who is a walking moral vacuum. Stand tall!I'm not surprised he would want to hit out, I would.
Do I value his opinion on who should lead the country (whichever way his support leans)? Not really.
Breadvan72 said:
markcoznottz said:
There is a revolving door between gov- BBC- judiciary-Whitehall- media. With mostly centre left views. Hence the confusion with the Brexit vote. They were genuinely shocked that other people don't see things as they do.
A fine example of a crassly simplistic and almost cartoonish understanding of the World. Where do people get this stuff? OK, I know where they get it from.Keoparakolo said:
You seem to have twisted it into some sort of statement about politicians. I’d isn’t reference politicians, I specifically called you out on your disgraceful comments about the victim’s father.
Stop attacking the father. Just because he has a different political outlook to you doesn’t make your comments any less crass.
You seem to have completely lost the plot again, sunshine! Maybe stick to the insurance advice in future! Stop attacking the father. Just because he has a different political outlook to you doesn’t make your comments any less crass.
Derek Smith said:
don'tbesilly said:
If the tweets that have been quoted in the media are true it's hardly surprising some are criticising the Father.
It seems odd for a grieving Father to be posting on social media within a week of his Son's murder, as an example:
'Wake up Britain: this man is a fraud. He’s the worst of us, & he’s taking you for a ride. You may think the options open to you in this election are not entirely to your liking. Me neither, but I’ll be voting least worst option: anti-Tory.'
It seems odd to you. Perhaps it's his way of coping. Perhaps he's saying what his son would want him to say. Maybe, even, he is so upset by what has happened to his son that he is hitting out. It could be that the Johnson spoutings, trying for a few extra votes, was the last straw. I may never know. I, like you, don't know the reason at the moment. It seems odd for a grieving Father to be posting on social media within a week of his Son's murder, as an example:
'Wake up Britain: this man is a fraud. He’s the worst of us, & he’s taking you for a ride. You may think the options open to you in this election are not entirely to your liking. Me neither, but I’ll be voting least worst option: anti-Tory.'
I wonder if quite so many posters would have been up in arms if he'd thanked Johnson for his intervention.
Could it be that it is not actually him doing it? His twitter history shows he is pretty vocal on certain political issues, for sure, so could it be someone else has taken up the mantel on his behalf and he is actually doing the sort of awful things the loved ones of murder victims do have to do?
I didn't even watch the Corbyn v Johnson debate thing that the father is referring to, so I cannot comment on his opinion expressed, ie was it right or wrong. I had other things to do and it was just not that important, hence I missed it. My life is surely far simpler than his at the moment?? It does make me wonder if someone else is looking after this Twitter at the moment, no one would blame him if so.
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: Or maybe that's what Dave Merritt thinks and he knew his son a bit better than some people on a motoring forum.
He wrote a piece for The Guardian along similar lines.
Nah, the conspiracy theories from the Ad Hom king are much more likely than someone actually believing in something that is different to him.He wrote a piece for The Guardian along similar lines.
poo at Paul's said:
Derek Smith said:
don'tbesilly said:
If the tweets that have been quoted in the media are true it's hardly surprising some are criticising the Father.
It seems odd for a grieving Father to be posting on social media within a week of his Son's murder, as an example:
'Wake up Britain: this man is a fraud. He’s the worst of us, & he’s taking you for a ride. You may think the options open to you in this election are not entirely to your liking. Me neither, but I’ll be voting least worst option: anti-Tory.'
It seems odd to you. Perhaps it's his way of coping. Perhaps he's saying what his son would want him to say. Maybe, even, he is so upset by what has happened to his son that he is hitting out. It could be that the Johnson spoutings, trying for a few extra votes, was the last straw. I may never know. I, like you, don't know the reason at the moment. It seems odd for a grieving Father to be posting on social media within a week of his Son's murder, as an example:
'Wake up Britain: this man is a fraud. He’s the worst of us, & he’s taking you for a ride. You may think the options open to you in this election are not entirely to your liking. Me neither, but I’ll be voting least worst option: anti-Tory.'
I wonder if quite so many posters would have been up in arms if he'd thanked Johnson for his intervention.
Dont like rolls said:
Brooking10 said:
He isn’t your saucy mechanic ...........
I do not "have a mechanic" let alone a saucy one. A bit confused by that so you will have to lead me to wtf you are on about.Countdown said:
R Mutt said:
The poor lad would have been appalled by his death fuelling hate but while these things have a history of uniting London more than anything, taking a stand against religious lunatics is inevitable, and necessary. It's not immediately obvious that the father's actions are what his one would have wanted either.
Chances are that the person who helped to raise him from a baby and knew him for the whole of his life knew what he would have wanted better than anybody else.Beth Rigby from Sky speaking with Dave Merritt.
https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status/1204407218629...
https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status/1204407218629...
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Beth Rigby from Sky speaking with Dave Merritt.
https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status/1204407218629...
The whole thing leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth, the double standards I can understand from a politician (not that it makes me pleased with them) but it just seems wrong for the family/Father to engage at such a time as this, it will not help him in the long road ahead. My family lost my sister in her late teens, my parents never recovered from it.https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status/1204407218629...
Edited by Dont like rolls on Tuesday 10th December 17:33
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