Brillo calls out BoJo
Discussion
Pan Pan Pan said:
Labour are promising everyone and his dog the moon on a stick, but everyone knows for absolute fact, is that EVERY time a labour government gets into No 10 the UK, and its economy gets destroyed, it then takes years for a following party to repair the damage done to the country by labour.,
The things the labour party are touting they will hand out for free, is all nonsense, because anyone with more than a few brain cells knows, that nothing is free, someone, somewhere has to pay for it.
Public services are only possible when there is a private sector which produces the cash needed to pay for the public sector. No healthy private sector, means no healthy public sector. The only thing labour know about the private sector, is that they want to tax it to hell and back, and if they do that, the country is finished.
What is the point of working hard if a labour government will just take what you have earned off you, in the punitive taxes that they always apply to those who have bare faced nerve to want to get on in life?.
Wow. Vague, emotional and cliched. Johnson fan by any chance?The things the labour party are touting they will hand out for free, is all nonsense, because anyone with more than a few brain cells knows, that nothing is free, someone, somewhere has to pay for it.
Public services are only possible when there is a private sector which produces the cash needed to pay for the public sector. No healthy private sector, means no healthy public sector. The only thing labour know about the private sector, is that they want to tax it to hell and back, and if they do that, the country is finished.
What is the point of working hard if a labour government will just take what you have earned off you, in the punitive taxes that they always apply to those who have bare faced nerve to want to get on in life?.
Electro1980 said:
And it goes round and round with the candidate refusing to answer the question until the interview has to move on to another question that won’t be answered. They all do it
Therefore it is utterly pointless wasting time on such a thing. They all lie, they all avoid the questions.
What is to be gained from that?
Pan Pan Pan said:
Trophy Husband said:
The point is that for many years those in the running have always faced interview, one on one. I think what AN said could actually be more damaging to the mop head Bullingdon twit than what would undoubtedly be a shoddy performance from the twit if he were to be interviewed.
Boris Johnson is, in my opinion, the worst thing that is happening in UK politics at the moment. The chap is a bellend who I despise.
He is odious and utterly untrustworthy as the many women in his past have discovered.
Yep! all agreed. Boris Johnson is, in my opinion, the worst thing that is happening in UK politics at the moment. The chap is a bellend who I despise.
He is odious and utterly untrustworthy as the many women in his past have discovered.
The only thing is, bad as Johnson might be for the UK, Corbyn will be a thousand, thousand times worse. But as we know regardless of party, they all do it. Livingstone had several kids by several different mothers.
In this country people cannot vote for what they want, they can only vote for what will be the least worst / damaging for the UK as a whole, and in this case when compared to Corbyn, that is most definitely Johnson.
The idea that our current PM is such a dolt beggars belief for me! What are his skills and attributes? I struggle to find anything redeeming about him, anything at all.
The irony for me is that those who will undoubtedly suffer the most under his leadership ie. the lower classes and those in need of social help are going to vote for the clown because "Get Brexit done" rings in their ears due to immigrants stealing their jobs!!
We'll have deregulation of labour laws, a proliferation of immoral zero hours contracts, a diminishing in Union power and a nation up for sale to the highest bidder.
I really do despair.
smn159 said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Labour are promising everyone and his dog the moon on a stick, but everyone knows for absolute fact, is that EVERY time a labour government gets into No 10 the UK, and its economy gets destroyed, it then takes years for a following party to repair the damage done to the country by labour.,
The things the labour party are touting they will hand out for free, is all nonsense, because anyone with more than a few brain cells knows, that nothing is free, someone, somewhere has to pay for it.
Public services are only possible when there is a private sector which produces the cash needed to pay for the public sector. No healthy private sector, means no healthy public sector. The only thing labour know about the private sector, is that they want to tax it to hell and back, and if they do that, the country is finished.
What is the point of working hard if a labour government will just take what you have earned off you, in the punitive taxes that they always apply to those who have bare faced nerve to want to get on in life?.
Wow. Vague, emotional and cliched. Johnson fan by any chance?The things the labour party are touting they will hand out for free, is all nonsense, because anyone with more than a few brain cells knows, that nothing is free, someone, somewhere has to pay for it.
Public services are only possible when there is a private sector which produces the cash needed to pay for the public sector. No healthy private sector, means no healthy public sector. The only thing labour know about the private sector, is that they want to tax it to hell and back, and if they do that, the country is finished.
What is the point of working hard if a labour government will just take what you have earned off you, in the punitive taxes that they always apply to those who have bare faced nerve to want to get on in life?.
Many of my mates who are, and always have been died in the wool, rock solid labour supporters for their entire lives have told me they will not. and cannot vote for Corbyn on the 12th, and will be (whilst holding their noses) voting tory for the first time in their lives. If that doesn't tell anything about Corbyn, I suspect nothing ever will
Don't like Johnson, but absolutely loathe Corbyn..
Trophy Husband said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Trophy Husband said:
The point is that for many years those in the running have always faced interview, one on one. I think what AN said could actually be more damaging to the mop head Bullingdon twit than what would undoubtedly be a shoddy performance from the twit if he were to be interviewed.
Boris Johnson is, in my opinion, the worst thing that is happening in UK politics at the moment. The chap is a bellend who I despise.
He is odious and utterly untrustworthy as the many women in his past have discovered.
Yep! all agreed. Boris Johnson is, in my opinion, the worst thing that is happening in UK politics at the moment. The chap is a bellend who I despise.
He is odious and utterly untrustworthy as the many women in his past have discovered.
The only thing is, bad as Johnson might be for the UK, Corbyn will be a thousand, thousand times worse. But as we know regardless of party, they all do it. Livingstone had several kids by several different mothers.
In this country people cannot vote for what they want, they can only vote for what will be the least worst / damaging for the UK as a whole, and in this case when compared to Corbyn, that is most definitely Johnson.
The idea that our current PM is such a dolt beggars belief for me! What are his skills and attributes? I struggle to find anything redeeming about him, anything at all.
The irony for me is that those who will undoubtedly suffer the most under his leadership ie. the lower classes and those in need of social help are going to vote for the clown because "Get Brexit done" rings in their ears due to immigrants stealing their jobs!!
We'll have deregulation of labour laws, a proliferation of immoral zero hours contracts, a diminishing in Union power and a nation up for sale to the highest bidder.
I really do despair.
You know that for the UK you just cannot / must not vote for Corbyn don't you?
Ayahuasca said:
What has Boris to gain from appearing on the AN show?
He has no need to appear.
It makes him seem like he is hiding from the media and can't take questions from a journalist. That did Theresa May no good in 2017. If he can't handle this, how is he meant to handle dealing with world leaders?He has no need to appear.
Ayahuasca said:
What has Boris to gain from appearing on the AN show?
He has no need to appear.
As a way to win over your detractors... Which Boris has a lot of.He has no need to appear.
Eloquent, erudite and intelligent politicians often will agree to be grilled by journalists who are against them as a way of showing that they have the intelligence and wit to not simply lead a country, but to lead it well. They know full well these journalists will do everything to try to trip them up, but are bright enough to avoid their traps.
However intelligence and wit are not things we ascribe to Boris, so he's deliberately avoiding any potentially challenging debate... and I don't just mean Andrew Neil.
Desperately trying to avoid interviews and debates that he hasn't stacked in his favour only makes Boris look weak. Given how badly the Tories did at the last GE and how badly they've done in elections since then, a weak Boris isn't a vote winner... but I get that he's between a rock and a hard place, he can look a coward and be though a fool by not appearing... or he can be confirmed to be a fool by appearing.
Crafty_ said:
Oh that is brilliant. 
Crafty_ said:
...wow...What was Gove thinking?
Electro1980 said:
They don’t. They push for an actual answer whilst politicians try to say something unrelated to turn the conversation the way they want without actually answering the question. Something along the lines of:
“Can you explain your statement on X”
“Well, if you look at our party manifesto...”
“I wasn’t asking about the party, but about your statement”
“If you let me finish... the party manifesto”
And it goes round and round with the candidate refusing to answer the question until the interview has to move on to another question that won’t be answered. They all do it, and it is useful because the public can tell when the politicians want to avoid an answer. Boris is trying to avoid scrutiny, probably for the same reason we have seen nothing from JRM, he will be seen as the idiot he is.
But that's not pushing for an answer, it's just trying to dominate and generate headlines by creating an argumentative and agressive environment. The alternative is;“Can you explain your statement on X”
“Well, if you look at our party manifesto...”
“I wasn’t asking about the party, but about your statement”
“If you let me finish... the party manifesto”
And it goes round and round with the candidate refusing to answer the question until the interview has to move on to another question that won’t be answered. They all do it, and it is useful because the public can tell when the politicians want to avoid an answer. Boris is trying to avoid scrutiny, probably for the same reason we have seen nothing from JRM, he will be seen as the idiot he is.
“Can you explain your statement on X”
“Well, if you look at our party manifesto...” {let them finish}
“Thanks for explaining the manifesto now please explain without repating the manifesto"
plasticpig said:
So Bojo is a cowardly bumbling buffoon. As opposed to just a bumbling buffoon. Facing Brillo for half an hour isn't going to lose him or his party their lead.
If you're engaged enough in politics to watch an Andrew Marr interview, you've already decided who you are voting for. He can't win there.Hence the appearances on Breakfast Television, where not only does he get an easy ride, an easy ride in front of a not particularly discerning audience.
Quite clever really.
Agammemnon said:
Trophy Husband said:
We'll have....................... a proliferation of immoral zero hours contracts
I have a zero hour contract. Could you please explain to me in what way it's immoral bearing in mind that both I and the people for whom I work are happy with this arrangement?You are not regarded as an employee. You are regarded as a worker.
Plenty of stuff for you to do your own research on ...
Agammemnon said:
Trophy Husband said:
We'll have....................... a proliferation of immoral zero hours contracts
I have a zero hour contract. Could you please explain to me in what way it's immoral bearing in mind that both I and the people for whom I work are happy with this arrangement?[/quoteYou may have one and it may suit you and aren't you lucky! Do you think if every contract for employment were zero hours it would be good for people? I cannot speak for your position but I'm assuming you have the ways and means to be flexible?
My use of the word immoral remains. Not guaranteeing an employee a level of wage is wrong. It is mediaeval.
As an employer of 15 people I would not sanction it even if it benefitted my business. I can assure you that, generally, zero hours contracts are for the benefit of the business. Yes, they may find people happy to take them on who like the flexibility but as a principle for employment they are wrong.
Edited by Trophy Husband on Friday 6th December 14:43
Red 4 said:
Because you have less rights than an employee.
You are not regarded as an employee. You are regarded as a worker.
Plenty of stuff for you to do your own research on ...
My payscales reflect the difference in status. I don't need to do any further research regarding my career, thanks.You are not regarded as an employee. You are regarded as a worker.
Plenty of stuff for you to do your own research on ...
FYI it's fewer rather than less.
As I said, how is it immoral if all parties are happy?
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