Worth saving from salvage?

Worth saving from salvage?

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driftwood258

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6 posts

52 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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I've been offered £880 by my insurers in exchange for the salvage of my E92 335D. An album of the damage is available here.

Whilst it's not London ULEZ compliant, which will be an issue for me come next year, I'm tempted to try and save it from salvage. I've conveniently found a donor car on eBay which would allow me to source a rear window, side window, rear brake light, all of the side window guttering/trim, and part of the body panel running from the boot to the roof which has a tear in it - I conservatively put this at a cost of ~£250. These are the only parts I think I'll need.

On top of that, I'm hoping the rear quarter panel above the rear bumper can be knocked back in to shape and filled, and the piece between the boot and the roof where the tear is can be cut out, and the replacement piece welded back in place. That entire rear quarter section would then need a respray.

What would the general opinion be here of attempting this? Worth the hassle? Or could I get more than my insurer's offer by putting the salvage up on eBay? The car is otherwise mechanically good, with a full service history, as is the body work and interior.

Davie_GLA

6,521 posts

199 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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can't help with your query but curious as to what caused damage that high?

MJ85

1,849 posts

174 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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Got to be worth it for one reason or another, depending on your storage space availability.

rxe

6,700 posts

103 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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Depends on year and mileage I would guess. A tidy low miles one seems to be 6.5K, a moon miles one about 3. What’s yours? A 6.5k car is worth fixing.

Certainly fixable, though I think you’d need to make sure that it is only surface damage to the C-pillar - did it bend and break the glass or was the glass smashed by whatever took a chunk out of it?

What happened?!?


LosingGrip

7,816 posts

159 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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Was a little worried at what was going to be shown!

dunc_sx

1,608 posts

197 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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LosingGrip said:
Was a little worried at what was going to be shown!
Perhaps a gash in the bodywork?

fwaggie

1,644 posts

200 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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If you're only going to run it for a couple of years you could do a quick fix on the C pillar (weld in plates to make it waterproof and then lots of filler), ditto rear panel.

I'd certainly fix it up if it was my car.

Also possibly a quick paint job now, and then a better quality one just before you sell it, so it looks nice.

Checkmate

631 posts

207 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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If you like the car, why not fix it and keep it?
800 odd seems a good price to buy the car back at.

Likeomg

164 posts

98 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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Isn't the engine alone worth more than that....


It seems to be the most common up and coming LR defender engine swap... so engines will be in demand.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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Worth saving it? not sure
Worth buying it back and breaking it for parts, yeah id definitely do it
Very pessimistic i know but i wouldn't trust any body shop to do a half decent job of repairing it, not up to my standards anyway.

driftwood258

Original Poster:

6 posts

52 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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Thanks for all the input!

Davie_GLA said:
can't help with your query but curious as to what caused damage that high?
Mobile crane swiped into me at low speed on a dual carriageway in traffic - the jib that was sticking out of the front is what caused the damage to the C pillar before the rest of him swiped my quarter panel.

rxe said:
Depends on year and mileage I would guess. A tidy low miles one seems to be 6.5K, a moon miles one about 3. What’s yours? A 6.5k car is worth fixing.
I'm being told Glass's is somewhere right in the middle of that range. It looks like it was the jib took the glass out, so it's just surface damage. Where the metal is torn it's just resting on the rubber trim surrounding the rear window, and hasn't penetrated/damaged it at all.

fwaggie said:
If you're only going to run it for a couple of years you could do a quick fix on the C pillar (weld in plates to make it waterproof and then lots of filler), ditto rear panel
Are you proposing a DIY job, or find the cheapest shop near me? If the former, I don't think I have the skills to do the C pillar. I could potentially have a crack at pulling out the dented quarter panel though.

Checkmate said:
If you like the car, why not fix it and keep it?
800 odd seems a good price to buy the car back at.
I do like the car, but I'm wondering if it'll be a false economy. I've yet to get any quotes for the damage to the C pillar and quarter panel - I could be massively underestimating how much it'll cost.

Likeomg said:
Isn't the engine alone worth more than that....

It seems to be the most common up and coming LR defender engine swap... so engines will be in demand.
I didn't mention it's got 145k on the clock; do you still think the engine's worth more?

eezeh said:
Worth saving it? not sure
Worth buying it back and breaking it for parts, yeah id definitely do it
Very pessimistic i know but i wouldn't trust any body shop to do a half decent job of repairing it, not up to my standards anyway.
I don't really have the inclination to keep it on the drive and split it for parts, but it did tempt me. I totalled up "the big bits" - interior, navigation, alloys - and figured I'd borderline make a profit; parting the rest out might take months.

I was wondering if anyone was experienced enough to have a guess at how much a dent puller would cost for the quarter panel and a bodyshop to weld a replacement C pillar piece.


Ructions

4,705 posts

121 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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The rear quarter is not repairable.

Blanco92

201 posts

71 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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I'm no expert but would it be worth proceeding like this. Source all the parts yourself (inc a rear quarter, if possible), fit as much of it as you can (glass, lights, plastics etc) and get it road worthy. Tidy up the sharp edges etc. Then drive it into a body shop and ask them to paint and fit the rear quarter. It's still a big job but it would prove that all parts are there (less for them to source) and give you control on how much you spend on parts and panels. Then you're just paying the labour.

grumpy52

5,579 posts

166 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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To get that repaired and painted to a decent level is going to be £3k at least plus whatever the glass boys would charge to swap the glass ,
The C pillar and rear 3/4 panel would be replaced in one go and paint the whole side plus bumper repair.

TooLateForAName

4,747 posts

184 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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I'd say worth buying back and breaking, but not worth repairing. I've got an e91 with timing chain failure that I'm slowly breaking - made £600 so far from turbo/injectors/fuel rail and a couple of sensors.

Cost of getting a good job done on that is going to be expensive - I suspect the £3K estimate is accurate.

CharlieAlphaMike

1,137 posts

105 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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Ructions said:
The rear quarter is not repairable.
Why?

RenPug

630 posts

168 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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Why dont you buy it back and then sell to somebody willing to break it instead. Might not make as much money as breaking it yourself but then you won't be putting the hours in to dismantle and post all the bits either.

If you're on Facebook join this group, theres a few BMW breakers on there plus plenty of other people who might be interested.

See what you get offered and then if it's worth it buy it from the insurance and sell straight away.



anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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driftwood258 said:
eezeh said:
Worth saving it? not sure
Worth buying it back and breaking it for parts, yeah id definitely do it
Very pessimistic i know but i wouldn't trust any body shop to do a half decent job of repairing it, not up to my standards anyway.
I don't really have the inclination to keep it on the drive and split it for parts, but it did tempt me. I totalled up "the big bits" - interior, navigation, alloys - and figured I'd borderline make a profit; parting the rest out might take months.
Interior, dashboard, steering wheel, nav and alloys would surely bring more than 800 alone then you have the divetrain, engine, gearbox and diff which is where the money is surely?
might be able to shift the bonnet doors and front bumper and headlights then just scrap the shell and whatever is left of it

The profit from breaking it and whatever the scrappie gives you for the shell plus the insurance payout should mean you have a nice tidy sum to go and buy another car with

driftwood258

Original Poster:

6 posts

52 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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RenPug said:
Why dont you buy it back and then sell to somebody willing to break it instead. Might not make as much money as breaking it yourself but then you won't be putting the hours in to dismantle and post all the bits either.

If you're on Facebook join this group, theres a few BMW breakers on there plus plenty of other people who might be interested.
Did consider this - even going as far as asking a few eBay breakers I was trying to source my parts from if they'd like the entire vehicle - but I had no takers. I'll try the Facebook group though, thanks!

eezeh said:
Interior, dashboard, steering wheel, nav and alloys would surely bring more than 800 alone then you have the divetrain, engine, gearbox and diff which is where the money is surely?
I've never really had any reason to check this sort of stuff out in detail before, but given the high mileage of the vehicle is the market for the drivetrain, engine, gearbox, and diff really that healthy? If I was purchasing these parts myself, I'd want to ensure the donor had a few miles as possible on it.

Then there's also the matter of not having the tools or the expertise to take those latter bits out myself.


Ructions

4,705 posts

121 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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CharlieAlphaMike said:
Ructions said:
The rear quarter is not repairable.
Why?
It’s pretty obvious that it’s beyond repair from the photos. No amount of filler will make that right.
A new panel is the only option.

If I was the op I’d be buying it back and selling it on complete. He will easily double his money with very little hassle.