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We all (well most of us) whined about the MPs and how they were not capable of deliving Brexit yet everyone I know is going to vote for Boris this time round despite living in a safe labour seat. Should we not look at the person standing too that is supposed to represent us?
I would vote for some independent candidates if any were standing.
The second question is should men boycott some candidates?. Our useless MP has stepped down this year and so labour have parachuted a hard left female MP and part of her qualifications for the job is that she is female. There are others, who laughed at the problem of male suicides for example, should such a person really be standing?
I would vote for some independent candidates if any were standing.
The second question is should men boycott some candidates?. Our useless MP has stepped down this year and so labour have parachuted a hard left female MP and part of her qualifications for the job is that she is female. There are others, who laughed at the problem of male suicides for example, should such a person really be standing?
We have this independent chap standing in MK
https://whocanivotefor.co.uk/person/6743/stephen-f...
I found him completely by accident, which shows just how much campaigning he does.....
https://whocanivotefor.co.uk/person/6743/stephen-f...
I found him completely by accident, which shows just how much campaigning he does.....
Macski said:
The second question is should men boycott some candidates?. Our useless MP has stepped down this year and so labour have parachuted a hard left female MP and part of her qualifications for the job is that she is female. There are others, who laughed at the problem of male suicides for example, should such a person really be standing?
It sounds like everyone should boycott them - why only men? 
techiedave said:
Macski said:
The second question is should men boycott some candidates?. Our useless MP has stepped down this year and so labour have parachuted a hard left female MP
I could decide better if you could link to some pictures of her please"The London-based activist is Jewish, a trade union officer and a socialist." is probably all you need to know
It does fascinate me that people vote for red, blue, whatever, without any understanding what their local candidate, who will be representing them when elected, believes in.
Are the voting public so disengaged that they think this is all about Boris versus Jeremy, or Jo, or Nicola Sturgeon (who isn't standing) because they believe their vote will count in some fictitious 'national' choice who will be PM!
Probably answering my own question, but the level of idiotic faceslap posting both on here and in general on social media, indicates I'm not wrong!
Are the voting public so disengaged that they think this is all about Boris versus Jeremy, or Jo, or Nicola Sturgeon (who isn't standing) because they believe their vote will count in some fictitious 'national' choice who will be PM!
Probably answering my own question, but the level of idiotic faceslap posting both on here and in general on social media, indicates I'm not wrong!
If any conservative MP after getting voted in this time starts to fight Brexit like the likes of anna soubry did last time they need to be removed from politics for life. They really don't have any excuse this time if you could argue they did last time which I didn't think you could..
After 2 years of enduring Jared O'Mara, many locals have been keen to attend hustings and put questions to each of the candidates around their suitability and experience to do the job. Hallam is quite unique in the area in that it only got it's first Labour MP in 2017, it's always been Tory or Lib Dem, but an influx of students, a hatred of Nick Clegg and the tree saga has skewed everything a bit left.
Labour - former deputy leader of the council, but given the issues with Sheffield Trees and the semi-secretive cabinet method of local governing, she has upset a lot of the locals. But at least we know she has experience, and has been in the public eye for some time. She is supported by Momentum, but has played this down and tried to distance herself from Corbyn.
Conservative - local born and bred, 20 years running a global engineering company, been on the board of various NHS and TEC trusts for a similarly long time, but faces an uphill battle because evil Tory. It's also a 70% remain area, so "get Brexit done" isn't an ideal campaign basis.
Lib Dem - bombarded us with leaflets for months, married to a doctor, has done "some humanitarian work" and employed by Dept for International development, but is very vague when it comes to her specific experiences. Very good at spinning the party line.
Labour - former deputy leader of the council, but given the issues with Sheffield Trees and the semi-secretive cabinet method of local governing, she has upset a lot of the locals. But at least we know she has experience, and has been in the public eye for some time. She is supported by Momentum, but has played this down and tried to distance herself from Corbyn.
Conservative - local born and bred, 20 years running a global engineering company, been on the board of various NHS and TEC trusts for a similarly long time, but faces an uphill battle because evil Tory. It's also a 70% remain area, so "get Brexit done" isn't an ideal campaign basis.
Lib Dem - bombarded us with leaflets for months, married to a doctor, has done "some humanitarian work" and employed by Dept for International development, but is very vague when it comes to her specific experiences. Very good at spinning the party line.
How relevant is your local MP to matters governing your life? To my knowledge my MP has done zero that impacts my constituency, so why would you give the MP any consideration when voting?
He was at one point the Minister for Transport and still couldn't get the station in his constituency to become part of the TFL network to reduce our fares, despite making multiple promises to do so.
The PMs policies absolutely affect me.
He was at one point the Minister for Transport and still couldn't get the station in his constituency to become part of the TFL network to reduce our fares, despite making multiple promises to do so.
The PMs policies absolutely affect me.
ReallyReallyGood said:
How relevant is your local MP to matters governing your life? To my knowledge my MP has done zero that impacts my constituency, so why would you give the MP any consideration when voting?
He was at one point the Minister for Transport and still couldn't get the station in his constituency to become part of the TFL network to reduce our fares, despite making multiple promises to do so.
The PMs policies absolutely affect me.
That you consider your previous MP has done little in your constituency is a sad reflection of where we are with our local MP's. Have you addressed your concerns directly with the previous incumbent?He was at one point the Minister for Transport and still couldn't get the station in his constituency to become part of the TFL network to reduce our fares, despite making multiple promises to do so.
The PMs policies absolutely affect me.
The PM doesn't have policies, per se, as it is the political party that sets the national policy and he or she is expected to follow the party line. They may have a large influence on guiding that policy but should not believe they are above the will of the people and in particular, their members.
ReallyReallyGood said:
How relevant is your local MP to matters governing your life? To my knowledge my MP has done zero that impacts my constituency, so why would you give the MP any consideration when voting?
They can and should do quite a bit and are probably more active in this regards than you are aware of.Some are better than others of course but it is one of the vagaries of our voting system that your preference of the person representing your interests in Parliament may very well not represent the party you'd want running the country.
Realistically party always has to be the prime motivation as the principle job of any MP is voting for or against a governing agenda for the whole country.
If you have a particularly distinguished local MP, or one you despise, that might change the calculation, but in the vast majority of constituencies that is the case.
If you have a particularly distinguished local MP, or one you despise, that might change the calculation, but in the vast majority of constituencies that is the case.
This website/tool is excellent, had a play last night, lots of friends and family have. Its been going round on all the social media for a while.
Have a go on your lunch break, it takes 20 minutes or so. It did confrim my thoughts but also brought up some surprises.
https://voteforpolicies.org.uk/
Have a go on your lunch break, it takes 20 minutes or so. It did confrim my thoughts but also brought up some surprises.
https://voteforpolicies.org.uk/
snotrag said:
This website/tool is excellent, had a play last night, lots of friends and family have. Its been going round on all the social media for a while.
Have a go on your lunch break, it takes 20 minutes or so. It did confrim my thoughts but also brought up some surprises.
https://voteforpolicies.org.uk/
Have a go on your lunch break, it takes 20 minutes or so. It did confrim my thoughts but also brought up some surprises.
https://voteforpolicies.org.uk/
Great.
snotrag said:
This website/tool is excellent, had a play last night, lots of friends and family have. Its been going round on all the social media for a while.
Have a go on your lunch break, it takes 20 minutes or so. It did confrim my thoughts but also brought up some surprises.
https://voteforpolicies.org.uk/
Interesting isn't it! It is flawed though because quite a few of the question offers options on answers in such a way that you know the party that represents the policies being offered - thus you are inclined to skew your answers, even subconsciously.Have a go on your lunch break, it takes 20 minutes or so. It did confrim my thoughts but also brought up some surprises.
https://voteforpolicies.org.uk/
There's a better one out there that was put together as a research project by a University that indicates where you exist on the political spectrum (Communism to Fascism) using attitudinal questions rather than direct opinions on policies. I'll have dig and see if I can find it.
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