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JagLover

42,391 posts

235 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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StevieBee said:
snotrag said:
This website/tool is excellent, had a play last night, lots of friends and family have. Its been going round on all the social media for a while.

Have a go on your lunch break, it takes 20 minutes or so. It did confrim my thoughts but also brought up some surprises.

https://voteforpolicies.org.uk/
Interesting isn't it! It is flawed though because quite a few of the question offers options on answers in such a way that you know the party that represents the policies being offered - thus you are inclined to skew your answers, even subconsciously.

There's a better one out there that was put together as a research project by a University that indicates where you exist on the political spectrum (Communism to Fascism) using attitudinal questions rather than direct opinions on policies. I'll have dig and see if I can find it.
Also flawed if policies of a particular party will devastate the economy, and public finances, and require far more drastic policies that do not appear in a manifesto!

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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They don’t always show a ‘deal killer’ policy that might be enough to switch you off a party also.

V8covin

7,309 posts

193 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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snotrag said:
This website/tool is excellent, had a play last night, lots of friends and family have. Its been going round on all the social media for a while.

Have a go on your lunch break, it takes 20 minutes or so. It did confrim my thoughts but also brought up some surprises.

https://voteforpolicies.org.uk/
Mine came back with
70% Brexit party
30% Conservative

Sounds about right

dai1983

2,912 posts

149 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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I've been watching the local hustings online and its usually a battle between the incumbent ERG Tory when he bothers to turn up and the Lib Dem who grew up here and works in the area. Surprisingly the Lib Dem candidate seems more sincere and intelligent than the Tory "Get Brexit Done" robot so I've gone Lib Dem after years of voting Tory. My wife wasn't sure so I sent her a link to one of the videos and she said the same when I asked her.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,346 posts

150 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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I'm an ABC in this election...anyone but conservative.

I just don't think Johnson is a fit and proper person the be PM of Great Britain & N. Ireland. You could argue that with people like me who feel that way, it's a shame for decent Tory MPs, but then again, if they were that decent, they wouldn't be standing whilst that lying was leader.


Piha

7,150 posts

92 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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I'm with Twigthewonderkid. ABC.

Blohard seems unfit for office and simply can't be trusted. The way his party dealt with those good, honest politicians representing Remain constituencies that dared to have a differing view on his damaging version of Brexit is more than disappointing.

chrispmartha

15,442 posts

129 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Im voting tactically to make sure (hopefully) my local independent doesn’t get in as he's a no deal brexiteer who has some questionable views on Muslims, which appeals to a lot of people round my way unfortunately

Tycho

11,584 posts

273 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
I'm an ABC in this election...anyone but conservative.

I just don't think Johnson is a fit and proper person the be PM of Great Britain & N. Ireland. You could argue that with people like me who feel that way, it's a shame for decent Tory MPs, but then again, if they were that decent, they wouldn't be standing whilst that lying was leader.

I assume you won't be voting Labour then?

Jasandjules

69,884 posts

229 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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El stovey said:
Great. hehe
An amazing tool to help you decide biggrin

TwigtheWonderkid

43,346 posts

150 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Tycho said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I'm an ABC in this election...anyone but conservative.

I just don't think Johnson is a fit and proper person the be PM of Great Britain & N. Ireland. You could argue that with people like me who feel that way, it's a shame for decent Tory MPs, but then again, if they were that decent, they wouldn't be standing whilst that lying was leader.

I assume you won't be voting Labour then?
No, because in my area, the LIb Dems are the 2nd party. If Labour were 2nd, I'd have voted for them. As I said, ABC.

AJL308

6,390 posts

156 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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pequod said:
It does fascinate me that people vote for red, blue, whatever, without any understanding what their local candidate, who will be representing them when elected, believes in.

Are the voting public so disengaged that they think this is all about Boris versus Jeremy, or Jo, or Nicola Sturgeon (who isn't standing) because they believe their vote will count in some fictitious 'national' choice who will be PM!

Probably answering my own question, but the level of idiotic faceslap posting both on here and in general on social media, indicates I'm not wrong!
It's not about being disengaged. Exactly the opposite, as it happens. I really, really do want to vote for whomever may be the best candidate to represent my area. Unfortunately though at this election it is simply a matter of how to keep Jeremy out of No 10. The destruction of the country he will officiate over will take more than a generation to recover from. And that is to leave aside the further persecution of Jews and probably other minorities which will also ensue. Therefore I will vote whichever way will have most chance of keeping out the Labour candidate.

AJL308

6,390 posts

156 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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snotrag said:
This website/tool is excellent, had a play last night, lots of friends and family have. Its been going round on all the social media for a while.

Have a go on your lunch break, it takes 20 minutes or so. It did confrim my thoughts but also brought up some surprises.

https://voteforpolicies.org.uk/
All that does though is give you an idea of what you think about the various policies. Pretty much all of the policies from all the parties sound reasonable, sensible, inclusive to all and suchlike. That's how you present something if you want someone to like what you are promoting.

It doesn't, as far as I'm aware (as I didn't finish it), take into account your opinion as to how the policies will be implemented or whether or not you actually believe that the parties will so what they say or whether it's even possible. Yes, it would be nice to have twenty billion squillion trees planted at the rate of 100 a second over the next 5 years but it isn't remotely possible. I'd like another 20K police officers too but that's probably not possible either.

It's not just the policies that decide political affiliation. To a great extent it's whether you believe them or whether they can actually be put into practice.

AJL308

6,390 posts

156 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
I'm an ABC in this election...anyone but conservative.

I just don't think Johnson is a fit and proper person the be PM of Great Britain & N. Ireland. You could argue that with people like me who feel that way, it's a shame for decent Tory MPs, but then again, if they were that decent, they wouldn't be standing whilst that lying was leader.

Coincidentally, lots of life-long Labour supporters (and lots of Jews) including some of their MP's and recent ex MP's think that same about Jeremy Corbyn.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,346 posts

150 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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AJL308 said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I'm an ABC in this election...anyone but conservative.

I just don't think Johnson is a fit and proper person the be PM of Great Britain & N. Ireland. You could argue that with people like me who feel that way, it's a shame for decent Tory MPs, but then again, if they were that decent, they wouldn't be standing whilst that lying was leader.

Coincidentally, lots of life-long Labour supporters (and lots of Jews) including some of their MP's and recent ex MP's think that same about Jeremy Corbyn.
They may well do. And your point is?

AJL308

6,390 posts

156 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
No, because in my area, the LIb Dems are the 2nd party. If Labour were 2nd, I'd have voted for them. As I said, ABC.
You'd vote for a party run by and infested with a bunch of racist anti-semites who are being investigated by the EQ, like the BNP before them, for same?
Seriously?

AJL308

6,390 posts

156 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
AJL308 said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I'm an ABC in this election...anyone but conservative.

I just don't think Johnson is a fit and proper person the be PM of Great Britain & N. Ireland. You could argue that with people like me who feel that way, it's a shame for decent Tory MPs, but then again, if they were that decent, they wouldn't be standing whilst that lying was leader.

Coincidentally, lots of life-long Labour supporters (and lots of Jews) including some of their MP's and recent ex MP's think that same about Jeremy Corbyn.
They may well do. And your point is?
That neither are fit but that some are less fit than others.

It should be every thinking person's duty to cast their vote in such a way as to keep out the vile racist Corbyn and his vile racist cohorts. If you are not against them you are with them.

Piha

7,150 posts

92 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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AJL308 said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
AJL308 said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I'm an ABC in this election...anyone but conservative.

I just don't think Johnson is a fit and proper person the be PM of Great Britain & N. Ireland. You could argue that with people like me who feel that way, it's a shame for decent Tory MPs, but then again, if they were that decent, they wouldn't be standing whilst that lying was leader.

Coincidentally, lots of life-long Labour supporters (and lots of Jews) including some of their MP's and recent ex MP's think that same about Jeremy Corbyn.
They may well do. And your point is?
That neither are fit but that some are less fit than others.

It should be every thinking person's duty to cast their vote in such a way as to keep out the vile racist Corbyn and his vile racist cohorts. If you are not against them you are with them.
How do you feel about Boris' use of picanninies, muslims looking like letter boxes and tanked topped bum boys etc?

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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AJL308 said:
It should be every thinking person's duty to cast their vote in such a way as to keep out the vile racist Corbyn and his vile racist cohorts. If you are not against them you are with them.
Wow. Peak election right there.

Glad it’s all over tomorrow.

JagLover

42,391 posts

235 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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El stovey said:
AJL308 said:
It should be every thinking person's duty to cast their vote in such a way as to keep out the vile racist Corbyn and his vile racist cohorts. If you are not against them you are with them.
Wow. Peak election right there.

Glads it’s all over tomorrow.
According to Order Order Labour supporters were chanting "from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" at a Corbyn rally last night. It is Order Order so hardly unbiased but if true we basically have a rally for one of the two main political parties chanting to drive Jews into the sea.

rscott

14,753 posts

191 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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JagLover said:
El stovey said:
AJL308 said:
It should be every thinking person's duty to cast their vote in such a way as to keep out the vile racist Corbyn and his vile racist cohorts. If you are not against them you are with them.
Wow. Peak election right there.

Glads it’s all over tomorrow.
According to Order Order Labour supporters were chanting "from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" at a Corbyn rally last night. It is Order Order so hardly unbiased but if true we basically have a rally for one of the two main political parties chanting to drive Jews into the sea.
The same website which spread the fake story about an assault on Hancock's team at the hospital and doctored the images of Whatsapp conversations to remove timestamps because they contradicted the fake news they'd posted.