2020 Retailers in trouble thread
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Went to my local High Street the other day, for the first time since March.
Looked into a few shops, unworkable one way systems, being mostly ignored anyway.
Got half way down & headed home, not a nice place to be.
Similarly went to a different town, a park in Marlow for a picnic last week. Plenty of space, retards pass by about 2 feet away when there is all the space in the world. A sign saying Thames towpath is closed due to social distancing. A group reading it, scratching their heads. Other walkers & cyclists going straight through the group to get onto the towpath..
A family out, ask a passer by to take their picture, gave them their phone..
Drove through Marlow High St a one way advisory for shoppers. Up one side, down the other. One in 5 going the wrong way ;(
No wonder the high street is dead as a dodo
Looked into a few shops, unworkable one way systems, being mostly ignored anyway.
Got half way down & headed home, not a nice place to be.
Similarly went to a different town, a park in Marlow for a picnic last week. Plenty of space, retards pass by about 2 feet away when there is all the space in the world. A sign saying Thames towpath is closed due to social distancing. A group reading it, scratching their heads. Other walkers & cyclists going straight through the group to get onto the towpath..
A family out, ask a passer by to take their picture, gave them their phone..
Drove through Marlow High St a one way advisory for shoppers. Up one side, down the other. One in 5 going the wrong way ;(
No wonder the high street is dead as a dodo
Lemming Train said:
The stuff about the markets above is because (imo) there is no queueing or being ordered around. You can go, browse around in peace and no-one seems to care for the CV19 scaremongering so it just works. Plenty of money changing hands. 'Proper' shops (excluding supermarkets which are a necessary evil so can't be compared) are largely dead because people quite rightly refuse to comply with their silly rules and dumb one-way systems, constant scrubbing your hands with questionable lotions every 5cm, having to wear a muzzle and being barked at by some dragon for having the temerity to come within 1.99cm of someone.
Well to be fair 19.9mm is a little close .
Lemming Train said:
The stuff about the markets above is because (imo) there is no queueing or being ordered around. You can go, browse around in peace and no-one seems to care for the CV19 scaremongering so it just works. Plenty of money changing hands. 'Proper' shops (excluding supermarkets which are a necessary evil so can't be compared) are largely dead because people quite rightly refuse to comply with their silly rules and dumb one-way systems, constant scrubbing your hands with questionable lotions every 5cm, having to wear a muzzle and being barked at by some dragon for having the temerity to come within 1.99cm of someone.
You OK hunLemming Train said:
The stuff about the markets above is because (imo) there is no queueing or being ordered around. You can go, browse around in peace and no-one seems to care for the CV19 scaremongering so it just works. Plenty of money changing hands. 'Proper' shops (excluding supermarkets which are a necessary evil so can't be compared) are largely dead because people quite rightly refuse to comply with their silly rules and dumb one-way systems, constant scrubbing your hands with questionable lotions every 5cm, having to wear a muzzle and being barked at by some dragon for having the temerity to come within 1.99cm of someone.
I wonder if it’s more about you and not the shops as my experience is very different.There weren’t any one way systems.
You didn’t have to scrub your hands at all let alone constantly.
Didn’t have to wear a muzzle ( face mask)
No one barked at me.
Are you saying things just for the sake of saying things?
Bit of a Drama Queen?
Just go to the shops, walk round the shops, buy something, go home.
It’s no issue at all.
Thankyou4calling said:
I wonder if it’s more about you and not the shops as my experience is very different.
There weren’t any one way systems.
You didn’t have to scrub your hands at all let alone constantly.
Didn’t have to wear a muzzle ( face mask)
No one barked at me.
Are you saying things just for the sake of saying things?
Bit of a Drama Queen?
Just go to the shops, walk round the shops, buy something, go home.
It’s no issue at all.
That's certainly been my experience too. Not really sure why there's such a fuss on here.There weren’t any one way systems.
You didn’t have to scrub your hands at all let alone constantly.
Didn’t have to wear a muzzle ( face mask)
No one barked at me.
Are you saying things just for the sake of saying things?
Bit of a Drama Queen?
Just go to the shops, walk round the shops, buy something, go home.
It’s no issue at all.
Thankyou4calling said:
I wonder if it’s more about you and not the shops as my experience is very different.
There weren’t any one way systems.
You didn’t have to scrub your hands at all let alone constantly.
Didn’t have to wear a muzzle ( face mask)
No one barked at me.
Are you saying things just for the sake of saying things?
Bit of a Drama Queen?
Just go to the shops, walk round the shops, buy something, go home.
It’s no issue at all.
I think you're right that it shouldn't be a big deal but it doesn't need to be a big deal to reduce footfall enough to have quite a negative impact on the retailers. There weren’t any one way systems.
You didn’t have to scrub your hands at all let alone constantly.
Didn’t have to wear a muzzle ( face mask)
No one barked at me.
Are you saying things just for the sake of saying things?
Bit of a Drama Queen?
Just go to the shops, walk round the shops, buy something, go home.
It’s no issue at all.
Personally I'm not planning on going shopping or to restaurants unless I really have to. I just don't think it will be that pleasant. Sure it's not that bad and I'd go to get some new shoes for kids if they need some but for more discretionary spending can wait.
Lemming Train said:
The stuff about the markets above is because (imo) there is no queueing or being ordered around. You can go, browse around in peace and no-one seems to care for the CV19 scaremongering so it just works. Plenty of money changing hands. 'Proper' shops (excluding supermarkets which are a necessary evil so can't be compared) are largely dead because people quite rightly refuse to comply with their silly rules and dumb one-way systems, constant scrubbing your hands with questionable lotions every 5cm, having to wear a muzzle and being barked at by some dragon for having the temerity to come within 1.99cm of someone.
Have you not heard of coronavirus and the fact 44k people have died because of it? Masks, social distancing, washing of hands is not too much to ask to help prevent more deaths. PeteinSQ said:
I think you're right that it shouldn't be a big deal but it doesn't need to be a big deal to reduce footfall enough to have quite a negative impact on the retailers.
Personally I'm not planning on going shopping or to restaurants unless I really have to. I just don't think it will be that pleasant. Sure it's not that bad and I'd go to get some new shoes for kids if they need some but for more discretionary spending can wait.
We went to Gusto last night.Personally I'm not planning on going shopping or to restaurants unless I really have to. I just don't think it will be that pleasant. Sure it's not that bad and I'd go to get some new shoes for kids if they need some but for more discretionary spending can wait.
The place was busy. Limited menu, much of which was sold out. It was exactly the same as pre-COVID!
Robertj21a said:
How is it a justifiable action to shareholders though. Is the press release adding more than £30m in goodwill?Challo said:
Lemming Train said:
The stuff about the markets above is because (imo) there is no queueing or being ordered around. You can go, browse around in peace and no-one seems to care for the CV19 scaremongering so it just works. Plenty of money changing hands. 'Proper' shops (excluding supermarkets which are a necessary evil so can't be compared) are largely dead because people quite rightly refuse to comply with their silly rules and dumb one-way systems, constant scrubbing your hands with questionable lotions every 5cm, having to wear a muzzle and being barked at by some dragon for having the temerity to come within 1.99cm of someone.
Have you not heard of coronavirus and the fact 44k people have died because of it? Masks, social distancing, washing of hands is not too much to ask to help prevent more deaths. 
hyphen said:
Robertj21a said:
How is it a justifiable action to shareholders though. Is the press release adding more than £30m in goodwill?Also there may be another completely rational reason behind it that is hidden and they’re just getting some good PR as they were going to do it anyway.
BBC were suggesting the other night that a certain burger company would be able to claim £120m. Macdonalds employ 120,000 people in the UK, so must have been talking about them.
I'm not sure if they're just s
t stirring, but presumably those staff are employed through individual franchises, and the money would go to the franchise owner and not Macdonalds themselves? In which case, I can't really see the problem. But they were making out Macdonalds were going to be gifted £120m via the taxpayer.They were suggesting it will come under abuse, but hopefully Primark acting quickly will do something to limit that.
Lemming Train said:
The stuff about the markets above is because (imo) there is no queueing or being ordered around. You can go, browse around in peace and no-one seems to care for the CV19 scaremongering so it just works. Plenty of money changing hands. 'Proper' shops (excluding supermarkets which are a necessary evil so can't be compared) are largely dead because people quite rightly refuse to comply with their silly rules and dumb one-way systems, constant scrubbing your hands with questionable lotions every 5cm, having to wear a muzzle and being barked at by some dragon for having the temerity to come within 1.99cm of someone.
As I've said previously. This is all highlighting who the real snowflakes are.jakesmith said:
hyphen said:
Robertj21a said:
How is it a justifiable action to shareholders though. Is the press release adding more than £30m in goodwill?Also there may be another completely rational reason behind it that is hidden and they’re just getting some good PR as they were going to do it anyway.
jammy-git said:
Lemming Train said:
The stuff about the markets above is because (imo) there is no queueing or being ordered around. You can go, browse around in peace and no-one seems to care for the CV19 scaremongering so it just works. Plenty of money changing hands. 'Proper' shops (excluding supermarkets which are a necessary evil so can't be compared) are largely dead because people quite rightly refuse to comply with their silly rules and dumb one-way systems, constant scrubbing your hands with questionable lotions every 5cm, having to wear a muzzle and being barked at by some dragon for having the temerity to come within 1.99cm of someone.
As I've said previously. This is all highlighting who the real snowflakes are.I’ve tried the shops, the cinema, even a few restaurants. I don’t think I’ll bother again just because it’s all a bit crap.
I’m sure a huge chunk of the population will either explicitly make the decision to not go back, or just naturally go along a bit less often. This equals major economic damage.
dmahon said:
I’m sure some of these stories are exaggerated for effect, but the restrictions do tip the balance from enjoyable to not worth bothering for many of us.
I’ve tried the shops, the cinema, even a few restaurants. I don’t think I’ll bother again just because it’s all a bit crap.
I’m sure a huge chunk of the population will either explicitly make the decision to not go back, or just naturally go along a bit less often. This equals major economic damage.
It is worth pointing out that online retailers are benefitting and growing as a result, and taking on more staff.I’ve tried the shops, the cinema, even a few restaurants. I don’t think I’ll bother again just because it’s all a bit crap.
I’m sure a huge chunk of the population will either explicitly make the decision to not go back, or just naturally go along a bit less often. This equals major economic damage.
SydneyBridge said:
I cannot imagine Primark have any unprofitable shops, unlike many retailers.
Sure the positive PR is worth more than the money and has laid a marker for others, such and M & S and Arcadia
My guess is retail has changed some will shop more on line than before. Governments recent chants of go back to work seem to echo this fear. Sure the positive PR is worth more than the money and has laid a marker for others, such and M & S and Arcadia
Me I could care less about going back to the office saving 4 to 500 a month less miniscule electricity costs. Now
Multiply that by say 500k City workers who have worked from home with no drop in productivity, saved time, money and child care costs. Plus we are told less car use is good for the environment well the government are getting what they always wanted right..... Course it's bulls
t the government want our money so need us to go back to before a 5 coffee and cake in morning 5 on a sandwich and then a snack on way home, pay train fair, pay for parking, pay for fuel etc. Or we could all do aot less of that make overpayment on the mortgage, pay off credit cards, build savings for a rainy day etc.I feel the end result lies somewhere in the middle with people who worked all way through seeing a financial gain they will want to bank.
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