2020 Retailers in trouble thread
Discussion
stevemcs said:
Drove through the town centre yesterday and the 3 pubs with outside space were very busy.
We went to a riverside bar this afternoon. All tables taken, DJ playing, very enjoyable.It seems that you can find normality if you wat to. But just when you start to get used to it, you leave the bubble and it's lockdownsville again.
rover 623gsi said:
they should just open everything and scrap the social distancing because the rick-averse simply remain at home anyway and the risk-takers might go out if they think they can actually have a decent experience
This is what they should have done from day 1. Leave it down to personal choice and common sense. loafer123 said:
I find it interesting that glass half empty posters have empty pubs.
Do you think they choose to live in negative neighbourhoods together?
A hell of a lot is to do with attitude.Do you think they choose to live in negative neighbourhoods together?
Many on here saying shop staff “Barking orders at them” hand sanitizer “Forced to use” told which way to go in a shop,
No ones done any of that to me,
Attitude!
dmahon said:
rover 623gsi said:
they should just open everything and scrap the social distancing because the rick-averse simply remain at home anyway and the risk-takers might go out if they think they can actually have a decent experience
This is what they should have done from day 1. Leave it down to personal choice and common sense. Do you not remember the two week of Boris saying "work from home if you can, try to keep 2m away from each other", then hardly anyone actually did it before he then had to order businesses to shut down and people to stay at home?!
jammy-git said:
They tried this and the number of cases and deaths was increasing incredibly quickly because people are morons and inconsiderate.
Do you not remember the two week of Boris saying "work from home if you can, try to keep 2m away from each other", then hardly anyone actually did it before he then had to order businesses to shut down and people to stay at home?!
The curve was already flattening by people being cautious etc as per the sage reports, the lock down was purely political due to media pressure. Do you not remember the two week of Boris saying "work from home if you can, try to keep 2m away from each other", then hardly anyone actually did it before he then had to order businesses to shut down and people to stay at home?!
loafer123 said:
Red 4 said:
So much for the grand reopening of pubs ...
The ones near to me which are usually busy (especially in the summer months) are deserted.
Even outside.
If this carries on much longer I reckon a few of them will close for good.
Perhaps unsurprisingly nobody appears to be listening to Boris anymore. He'll have a huge job on his hands trying to kick start an economy with little consumer confidence.
Went to my local yesterday for dinner.The ones near to me which are usually busy (especially in the summer months) are deserted.
Even outside.
If this carries on much longer I reckon a few of them will close for good.
Perhaps unsurprisingly nobody appears to be listening to Boris anymore. He'll have a huge job on his hands trying to kick start an economy with little consumer confidence.
Very busy, and well distanced between tables.
Very busy, and many were out in the large garden at the back or out in the front garden, it was a cracking day though weatherwise so I'm not sure what would have happened if the weather hadn't been so good.
Very well organised and would certainly go back even with the restrictions which didn't really make that much of a difference.
jammy-git said:
They tried this and the number of cases and deaths was increasing incredibly quickly because people are morons and inconsiderate.
Do you not remember the two week of Boris saying "work from home if you can, try to keep 2m away from each other", then hardly anyone actually did it before he then had to order businesses to shut down and people to stay at home?!
People, businesses, schools, glaciers etc. were way ahead of Boris in doing what they sensibly could in the face of of a potentially serious threat and buffoonary from the UK government.Do you not remember the two week of Boris saying "work from home if you can, try to keep 2m away from each other", then hardly anyone actually did it before he then had to order businesses to shut down and people to stay at home?!
Its the government that lacks common sense and any sort of coherent plan.
dmahon said:
rover 623gsi said:
they should just open everything and scrap the social distancing because the rick-averse simply remain at home anyway and the risk-takers might go out if they think they can actually have a decent experience
This is what they should have done from day 1. Leave it down to personal choice and common sense. Don’t think that would help retailers though.
jammy-git said:
They tried this and the number of cases and deaths was increasing incredibly quickly because people are morons and inconsiderate.
Do you not remember the two week of Boris saying "work from home if you can, try to keep 2m away from each other", then hardly anyone actually did it before he then had to order businesses to shut down and people to stay at home?!
Nonsense. The country locked down before Boris made anything compulsory.Do you not remember the two week of Boris saying "work from home if you can, try to keep 2m away from each other", then hardly anyone actually did it before he then had to order businesses to shut down and people to stay at home?!
The government followed, they did not lead.
PF62 said:
dmahon said:
rover 623gsi said:
they should just open everything and scrap the social distancing because the rick-averse simply remain at home anyway and the risk-takers might go out if they think they can actually have a decent experience
This is what they should have done from day 1. Leave it down to personal choice and common sense. Don’t think that would help retailers though.
My answer is the same:
I’d happily do as you suggest. As long as it applies to everyone who drinks, smokes or has anything short of a perfect diet and exercise regime.
Red 4 said:
jammy-git said:
They tried this and the number of cases and deaths was increasing incredibly quickly because people are morons and inconsiderate.
Do you not remember the two week of Boris saying "work from home if you can, try to keep 2m away from each other", then hardly anyone actually did it before he then had to order businesses to shut down and people to stay at home?!
Nonsense. The country locked down before Boris made anything compulsory.Do you not remember the two week of Boris saying "work from home if you can, try to keep 2m away from each other", then hardly anyone actually did it before he then had to order businesses to shut down and people to stay at home?!
The government followed, they did not lead.
Sadly the polling sources are largely a bunch of morons who read the Daily Mail, which is why we have ended up in our current situation.
dmahon said:
rover 623gsi said:
they should just open everything and scrap the social distancing because the rick-averse simply remain at home anyway and the risk-takers might go out if they think they can actually have a decent experience
This is what they should have done from day 1. Leave it down to personal choice and common sense. survivalist said:
The government have followed popular opinion all the way through this. Tons of polling to see what would be acceptable, U turns where the polling was incorrect.
Sadly the polling sources are largely a bunch of morons who read the Daily Mail, which is why we have ended up in our current situation.
Exactly this.Sadly the polling sources are largely a bunch of morons who read the Daily Mail, which is why we have ended up in our current situation.
We should be following the example set by NZ, Japan and Taiwan. instead we're going to end up being America Lite.
anonymous said:
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I think it depends very much on your age and family situation. 6 years ago I would have been back down the local with all my friends.Now we all have kids, it’s easier to meet up for a meal/BBQ at each other’s houses , even before Covid 19.
Our local pubs are trying to keep people in groups of 4 and 6, which doesn’t really work with young kids who want to run around like banshees. They also feel wary of the hystericals who might complain if a few tables started mixing, even though in reality we’ve been meeting up anyway.
Had a few beers with friends, but the relaxed atmosphere is gone. It’s going to be tough for pubs.
On the flip side, been out for a couple of lunches and the restaurant side seems less affected. Still missing the atmosphere a bit, but a romantic meal relies much less on the social aspect.
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