2020 Retailers in trouble thread
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jakesmith said:
You just come across as an impractical anti government zealot who can’t think about the big picture and will just see wrong in anything.
We are not back to talking about Davos nonsense again are we!?
Many of our small local shops work around it by selling essential items, and they are the first place people support!
Oh and what governement would you look to sort this out? Because history tells us every single one of them would have failed miserably.
Many of our small local shops work around it by selling essential items, and they are the first place people support!
Oh and what governement would you look to sort this out? Because history tells us every single one of them would have failed miserably.
survivalist said:
595Heaven said:
To what end?
Perceived popularity.Not one just does he care that the country will be left in tatters and we'll be paying punitive taxation for decades.
joshcowin said:
We are not back to talking about Davos nonsense again are we!?
Many of our small local shops work around it by selling essential items, and they are the first place people support!
Oh and what governement would you look to sort this out? Because history tells us every single one of them would have failed miserably.
Small businesses make up 99 per cent of the overall number of businesses in the UK., the prediction at the start of the year was 600k were going to fail this year due to cv19.Many of our small local shops work around it by selling essential items, and they are the first place people support!
Oh and what governement would you look to sort this out? Because history tells us every single one of them would have failed miserably.
https://www.retailgazette.co.uk/blog/2020/10/retai...
''Retailers among more than half a million UK firms “significantly distressed”
Tesco said sales in the UK and Ireland rose 8.6% to £24.3bn, with overall revenue of £28.7bn.
Deathmole said:
survivalist said:
595Heaven said:
To what end?
Perceived popularity.Having been seen to have cocked this up (which they have) would ruin them for decades, they need to gaslight the public enough to deflect as much of the blame as they can.
The failure of their measures arent their fault for applying ridiculous measures its our fault for not complying with them to the letter.
You only have to look at facebook chats about the latest lockdown - its all "people have only themselves to blame for not complying with the rules in the first place".
They've got the majority of the country living in fear and blaming themselves for it going wrong.
Condi said:
2020 retailers in trouble?
All of them, as of now.
With the notable exception of large foreign online firms able to sell products local shops cannot. No doubt that will be little comfort to the local shop owners, their staff, the local councils who will inevitable suffer from lost business rates, and the national government who will have a smaller tax take, not to mention the landlords who are now facing empty properties in January.
Indeed. The likes of Amazon must be rubbing their hands with glee. Taking even more business away from local shops and continuing to pay a minimal amount of UK tax.All of them, as of now.
With the notable exception of large foreign online firms able to sell products local shops cannot. No doubt that will be little comfort to the local shop owners, their staff, the local councils who will inevitable suffer from lost business rates, and the national government who will have a smaller tax take, not to mention the landlords who are now facing empty properties in January.
Theres many now who simply wont go back to bricks and mortar stores even IF we get some sort of normality down the line.
Deep Thought said:
Indeed. The likes of Amazon must be rubbing their hands with glee. Taking even more business away from local shops and continuing to pay a minimal amount of UK tax.
Theres many now who simply wont go back to bricks and mortar stores even IF we get some sort of normality down the line.
I've kind of gone the opposite way. I buy some stuff from Amazon as my local stores don't stock them (Miele vac bags, for example) but buying toys for Xmas from local toy shop instead of Amazon. Only a few quid in it but there is a certain magic about taking kids to a toy shop that online can never replace.Theres many now who simply wont go back to bricks and mortar stores even IF we get some sort of normality down the line.
vaud said:
Deep Thought said:
Indeed. The likes of Amazon must be rubbing their hands with glee. Taking even more business away from local shops and continuing to pay a minimal amount of UK tax.
Theres many now who simply wont go back to bricks and mortar stores even IF we get some sort of normality down the line.
I've kind of gone the opposite way. I buy some stuff from Amazon as my local stores don't stock them (Miele vac bags, for example) but buying toys for Xmas from local toy shop instead of Amazon. Only a few quid in it but there is a certain magic about taking kids to a toy shop that online can never replace.Theres many now who simply wont go back to bricks and mortar stores even IF we get some sort of normality down the line.
A few years back Boris called local pubs the heart of the community. Now he is is happy to shut them down with no scientific evidence.
Small shops similar, i just don't understand why a shop which is CV19 secure is then told to close. Yet supermarkets with more people in them are kept open, it is all nonsensical.
The people that are being hurt the most are the elderly population who don't use amazon and such like.
Small shops similar, i just don't understand why a shop which is CV19 secure is then told to close. Yet supermarkets with more people in them are kept open, it is all nonsensical.
The people that are being hurt the most are the elderly population who don't use amazon and such like.
vaud said:
I've kind of gone the opposite way. I buy some stuff from Amazon as my local stores don't stock them (Miele vac bags, for example) but buying toys for Xmas from local toy shop instead of Amazon. Only a few quid in it but there is a certain magic about taking kids to a toy shop that online can never replace.
Absolutely. Lets hope you have the window of opportunity to do that in December if they're allowed to reopen.It must be soul destroying running a bricks and mortar business toy shop right now - October, November, December are likely what carry them through the rest of the year and they've now had the middle ripped right out of that.
The Spruce Goose said:
A few years back Boris called local pubs the heart of the community. Now he is is happy to shut them down with no scientific evidence.
Small shops similar, i just don't understand why a shop which is CV19 secure is then told to close. Yet supermarkets with more people in them are kept open, it is all nonsensical.
The people that are being hurt the most are the elderly population who don't use amazon and such like.
Because being covid secure is a fallacy.Small shops similar, i just don't understand why a shop which is CV19 secure is then told to close. Yet supermarkets with more people in them are kept open, it is all nonsensical.
The people that are being hurt the most are the elderly population who don't use amazon and such like.
Stay in Bed Instead said:
The Spruce Goose said:
A few years back Boris called local pubs the heart of the community. Now he is is happy to shut them down with no scientific evidence.
Small shops similar, i just don't understand why a shop which is CV19 secure is then told to close. Yet supermarkets with more people in them are kept open, it is all nonsensical.
The people that are being hurt the most are the elderly population who don't use amazon and such like.
Because being covid secure is a fallacy.Small shops similar, i just don't understand why a shop which is CV19 secure is then told to close. Yet supermarkets with more people in them are kept open, it is all nonsensical.
The people that are being hurt the most are the elderly population who don't use amazon and such like.
Deep Thought said:
Absolutely. Lets hope you have the window of opportunity to do that in December if they're allowed to reopen.
It must be soul destroying running a bricks and mortar business toy shop right now - October, November, December are likely what carry them through the rest of the year and they've now had the middle ripped right out of that.
Doing it today and tomorrow, I’d rather they had my cash this side of the lockdown.It must be soul destroying running a bricks and mortar business toy shop right now - October, November, December are likely what carry them through the rest of the year and they've now had the middle ripped right out of that.
Stay in Bed Instead said:
Deep Thought said:
And they're still using the term
.gov.uk website, last updated 15th Oct. "This will help control the virus and save lives."
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronav...
Edited by Deep Thought on Sunday 1st November 11:44
vaud said:
Deep Thought said:
Absolutely. Lets hope you have the window of opportunity to do that in December if they're allowed to reopen.
It must be soul destroying running a bricks and mortar business toy shop right now - October, November, December are likely what carry them through the rest of the year and they've now had the middle ripped right out of that.
Doing it today and tomorrow, I’d rather they had my cash this side of the lockdown.It must be soul destroying running a bricks and mortar business toy shop right now - October, November, December are likely what carry them through the rest of the year and they've now had the middle ripped right out of that.
I'm sure they're loving it.
Stay in Bed Instead said:
Because being covid secure is a fallacy.
Well it is real to the small businesses to spunk there money to stay in business only to be shut again.Could MP's survive with no salary for 4 months of the year and minimum support, yet they expect small businesses to do so..
Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 1st November 11:51
The Spruce Goose said:
Stay in Bed Instead said:
Because being covid secure is a fallacy.
Well it is real to the small businesses to spunk our money to stay in business only to be shut again.Could MP's survive with no salary for 4 months of the year and minimum support, yet they expect small businesses to do so..
"The retail chief executive on the other end of the phone yesterday morning was fuming. He and his peers had spent weeks with the business secretary, Alok Sharma, discussing how to make their shops Covid-secure. He had spent hundreds of thousands of pounds on one-way systems, Perspex screens and personal protective equipment for staff. In anticipation of Black Friday, the discount extravaganza at the end of this month, he had loaded up with £300m of stock — three times the amount he would normally carry. Then he saw the front page of The Times yesterday, and the news that the government was abruptly planning to bring in a second national lockdown. Boris Johnson confirmed the story at 6.30pm: from Thursday, England will go back..."
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/stem-the-tide-p...
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