2020 Retailers in trouble thread

[jammy-git]

Posted on another topic but I'll post it here too:

If we stay in lockdown until early next year there could be one of two benefits to the government.

1) Any pent up demand helps to soften the blow of Brexit.
2) Any clusterfk of a Brexit shaped slump in the economy in January can be partially/entirely be blamed on the pandemic and "people not doing enough to slow the spread of the virus ".

It also gives Gove more ammo to push BoJo out of a job in the Spring to give the party a clear break in leadership to try and fix/continue with Brexit.

[Simir]

The Spruce Goose said:

one thing that seems overkill, is not allowing pubs to offer takeaway drinks. This really is stupid because there are loads of community pubs that could do this easily and help they survive another month.

Edited by The Spruce Goose on Sunday 1st November 14:00

Drive through pubs?

[anonymous-user]

Simir said:

Drive through pubs?

Pubs can do takeaways but not alcohol. I can understand in cities but again in Villages, older people rely on pubs in the countryside, yet another law that directly impacts them.

[loskie]

not sure you are correct re "older people" plus as they are classed as more vulnerable in respects of Covid for them to visit a pub may not be the wisest thing to do if it is as bad as we are led to believe.

[skeggysteve]

Our village pub put this up on Facebook earlier:

From now until 9.30 pm on Wednesday 4 November.
All beer, lager, cider and stout £3.00 per pint.
When it’s gone it’s gone. That means both the the beer and the pub.

[Simir]

Robertj21a said:

Condi said:

2020 retailers in trouble?

All of them, as of now.

With the notable exception of large foreign online firms able to sell products local shops cannot. No doubt that will be little comfort to the local shop owners, their staff, the local councils who will inevitable suffer from lost business rates, and the national government who will have a smaller tax take, not to mention the landlords who are now facing empty properties in January.



The current Conservative government are deliberately wrecking the economy and it is a complete disgrace.

Why would a government deliberately wreck the economy ?

Certain individuals could make a lot of money based upon the book by Jacob Rees-Mogg's father, it's like knowing which horse is going to win before the race has taken place:

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/nov/09/myst...

[hyphen]

Laura Ashley back.

Next working with the the US Investment Company owner, so Next will run the website and have instore concessions. Standalone stores may follow.

Edited by hyphen on Sunday 1st November 16:49

[vaud]

Thankyou4calling said:

Deep Thought said:

How would that work if his retail outlets to collect from are closed?

They needn’t close.

Click and collect is allowed. Argos, Halfords plenty of other stores.

Try it!

Indeed. So many places can stay "open" - you just don't have the customer inside the store for long:

"Non-essential retail can remain open for delivery to customers and click-and-collect."

[SydneyBridge]

Was expecting Tesco to be heaving at 10am this morning, but was not. Big queue outside Wilko at 11am though, and I assume they will stay open as before

[Deep Thought]

SydneyBridge said:

Was expecting Tesco to be heaving at 10am this morning, but was not. Big queue outside Wilko at 11am though, and I assume they will stay open as before

Surely Tescos wont be closing though?

[SydneyBridge]

Deep Thought said:

Surely Tescos wont be closing though?

No, but i had assumed people would be out panic buying

[sim72]

SydneyBridge said:

Deep Thought said:

Surely Tescos wont be closing though?

No, but i had assumed people would be out panic buying

Doesn't seem to be that busy at all. Went to Sainsbury's to get fuel this morning; there was no queue outside the store and the car park was no more than 2/3 full. Pre-lockdown (the first one) you'd have struggled to find a space at that time.

[anonymous-user]

sim72 said:

Doesn't seem to be that busy at all. Went to Sainsbury's to get fuel this morning; there was no queue outside the store and the car park was no more than 2/3 full. Pre-lockdown (the first one) you'd have struggled to find a space at that time.

You would hope most people already have their 14 day emergency stock in house to cover if they have to isolate, its just a case now of topping up as per usual. There is no concern over the shops being able to provide essential goods, we've been through that uncertainty and know its not a problem.

As with many aspects of this, we are far more experienced now, so the fkwittery of the first lockdown shouldn't be seen.

[survivalist]

jsf said:

sim72 said:

Doesn't seem to be that busy at all. Went to Sainsbury's to get fuel this morning; there was no queue outside the store and the car park was no more than 2/3 full. Pre-lockdown (the first one) you'd have struggled to find a space at that time.

You would hope most people already have their 14 day emergency stock in house to cover if they have to isolate, its just a case now of topping up as per usual. There is no concern over the shops being able to provide essential goods, we've been through that uncertainty and know its not a problem.

As with many aspects of this, we are far more experienced now, so the fkwittery of the first lockdown shouldn't be seen.

Ocado app was back to limiting numbers last night. Maybe all the panic buyers are doing it online now?

[PeteinSQ]

I dont really understand panic buying this time. Supply chains have shown they can cope and everyone has seen that. I'm certainly not going to panic, a few days of idiots going nuts and the shelves will fill back up again.

[vaud]

survivalist said:

Ocado app was back to limiting numbers last night. Maybe all the panic buyers are doing it online now?

I can see why - the weather is pretty poor. Queuing to get in the supermarket isn't so bad in the summer, but in the driving rain? Lots of people added Ocado accounts under lockdown and now are opening them up once more?

Didn't see any panic buying today at Waitrose. Even the govt guidance is pretty clear that essential retail will stay open and non-essential can do click/collect.

[V6Alfisti]

vaud said:

I can see why - the weather is pretty poor. Queuing to get in the supermarket isn't so bad in the summer, but in the driving rain? Lots of people added Ocado accounts under lockdown and now are opening them up once more?

Didn't see any panic buying today at Waitrose. Even the govt guidance is pretty clear that essential retail will stay open and non-essential can do click/collect.

I had the Ocado online queueing, seemingly fine with flour but toilet roll was limited again....

[survivalist]

V6Alfisti said:

vaud said:

I can see why - the weather is pretty poor. Queuing to get in the supermarket isn't so bad in the summer, but in the driving rain? Lots of people added Ocado accounts under lockdown and now are opening them up once more?

Didn't see any panic buying today at Waitrose. Even the govt guidance is pretty clear that essential retail will stay open and non-essential can do click/collect.

I had the Ocado online queueing, seemingly fine with flour but toilet roll was limited again....

First they come for the toilet roll.

Then the kitchen towel.

Next it’s the grease proof baking paper.

Once that’s all gone there’s nowhere to go but civil unrest.

[Newc]

survivalist said:

First they come for the toilet roll.

Then the kitchen towel.

Next it’s the grease proof baking paper.

Once that’s all gone there’s nowhere to go but civil unrest.

[Deathmole]