Coronavirus - Is this the killer flu that will wipe us out?

Coronavirus - Is this the killer flu that will wipe us out?

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anonymous-user

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54 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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Prizam said:
Pollution and smokers, yes. But can that alone count for the massive amount of deaths?
Don't underestimate the damage pollution and smoking does to the lungs. Then you get a Flu that works from the lung cells, that helps it multiply also damages lung epithelial cells, causing fluid buildup in the lungs.

Then pnemonia onset, game over. Link that to a weakened immune system, older and very young.

Article here stating it is similar to Sars damage.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-17...

''The man received a barrage of medicines as doctors in China tried to save him. That included the anti-infection treatment interferon alfa-2b, the AIDS medicines lopinavir and ritonavir, and the antibiotic moxifloxacin to prevent a secondary bacterial infection.

He also received the steroid methylprednisolone to treat inflamed lungs and “serious shortness of breath” and lack of oxygen in his blood.''

anonymous-user

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54 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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and latest, suprise suprise.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-515409...

Coronavirus: Largest study suggests elderly and sick are most at risk

p1stonhead

25,544 posts

167 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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Anyone have a source for ‘20 on the cruise ship being critical’ ?

anonymous-user

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54 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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Thesprucegoose said:
''The man received a barrage of medicines as doctors in China tried to save him. That included the anti-infection treatment interferon alfa-2b, the AIDS medicines lopinavir and ritonavir, and the antibiotic moxifloxacin to prevent a secondary bacterial infection.

He also received the steroid methylprednisolone to treat inflamed lungs and “serious shortness of breath” and lack of oxygen in his blood.''
Poor sod. He only went in with a stubbed toe.

Pastor Of Muppets

3,263 posts

62 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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This thread is seething with doom, some folk need to seriously lighten up.

Meanwhile Japan has their own version of it.. The Toyota Corona virus getmecoat

otolith

56,121 posts

204 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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Thesprucegoose said:
and latest, suprise suprise.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-515409...

Coronavirus: Largest study suggests elderly and sick are most at risk
I'm quite fond of my elderly relatives, so that snippet (which we already knew) isn't a huge comfort.

nffcforever

793 posts

191 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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p1stonhead said:
Anyone have a source for ‘20 on the cruise ship being critical’ ?
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https://this.kiji.is/602066054273565793

Edited by nffcforever on Tuesday 18th February 12:18

eharding

13,705 posts

284 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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Thirty Brighton doctors in coronavirus isolation

It does seem that at some stage PHE will need to review the precautionary self-isolation policy, or half the NHS will end up staying at home.

Getting so many doctors in one room probably wasn't the best idea, in retrospect.

nffcforever

793 posts

191 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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How do attitudes to coronavirus differ across the world?

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/health/articles-report...

Edited by nffcforever on Tuesday 18th February 13:14

Taylor James

3,111 posts

61 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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I think they will eventually identify two types.

Self-employed people will get the covid-19se version, which despite the advice to self-isolate for 14 days, has such minimal impact that people will carry on working.

The other type, covid-19, will only infect public sector workers and private sector workers with generous sick and holiday pay entitlements.

No one knows why this is likely, only that vast swathes of covid-19 sufferers will take one to two weeks off to self-isolate (as soon as the weather improves a bit) whilst almost all covid-19se sufferers will carry on driving taxis, laying bricks and generally working as normal.

Regression will be much more likely in covid19 sufferers as summer approaches and covid19 sufferers will be much more susceptible to infection than covid-19se sufferers. covid19-se infected are most likely to be ill at weekends. Symptoms of covid-19 are more likely to appear at weekends necessitating the following week off.


otolith

56,121 posts

204 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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Taylor James said:
Self-employed people will get the covid-19se version, which despite the advice to self-isolate for 14 days, has such minimal impact that people will carry on working.
Not sure, but I think she was an employee. Same sort of thing though.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC39599...


poo at Paul's

14,147 posts

175 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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eharding said:
Thirty Brighton doctors in coronavirus isolation

It does seem that at some stage PHE will need to review the precautionary self-isolation policy, or half the NHS will end up staying at home.

Getting so many doctors in one room probably wasn't the best idea, in retrospect.
Are these gps rampant in the way they intereact with each other, or is this horribly infectious?
I still cannot get my head around the info to schools posted yesterday. 30 medical professionals having to stay home for 2 weeks in case they picked it up at a meeting, and now (2 weeks alter) the ROOM is being fumigated, and yet they want our kids to just got to school and carry on as normal! No handwashing tips / breaks, no gel dispensers, no education on not passing it about...!

Crazy and very contradictory indeed.

red_slr

17,234 posts

189 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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Cruise ship +88 cases.

kev1974

4,029 posts

129 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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Taylor James said:
I think they will eventually identify two types.

Self-employed people will get the covid-19se version, which despite the advice to self-isolate for 14 days, has such minimal impact that people will carry on working.

The other type, covid-19, will only infect public sector workers and private sector workers with generous sick and holiday pay entitlements.

No one knows why this is likely, only that vast swathes of covid-19 sufferers will take one to two weeks off to self-isolate (as soon as the weather improves a bit) whilst almost all covid-19se sufferers will carry on driving taxis, laying bricks and generally working as normal.

Regression will be much more likely in covid19 sufferers as summer approaches and covid19 sufferers will be much more susceptible to infection than covid-19se sufferers. covid19-se infected are most likely to be ill at weekends. Symptoms of covid-19 are more likely to appear at weekends necessitating the following week off.
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eharding

13,705 posts

284 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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poo at Paul's said:
eharding said:
Thirty Brighton doctors in coronavirus isolation

It does seem that at some stage PHE will need to review the precautionary self-isolation policy, or half the NHS will end up staying at home.

Getting so many doctors in one room probably wasn't the best idea, in retrospect.
Are these gps rampant in the way they intereact with each other, or is this horribly infectious?
I still cannot get my head around the info to schools posted yesterday. 30 medical professionals having to stay home for 2 weeks in case they picked it up at a meeting, and now (2 weeks alter) the ROOM is being fumigated, and yet they want our kids to just got to school and carry on as normal! No handwashing tips / breaks, no gel dispensers, no education on not passing it about...!

Crazy and very contradictory indeed.
I don't quite know what to make of this:

Brighton clinician said:
“We need to make sure local representatives of the CCG are not misleading us with false reassurance. The CCG seems more concerned about spinning the positives than telling people the truth.”
That's "CCG", as in the Brighton and Hove Clinical Commissioning Group, as opposed to "CCP". Of course, this anonymous medic they're quoting might just have a grudge.

otolith

56,121 posts

204 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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poo at Paul's said:
Are these gps rampant in the way they intereact with each other, or is this horribly infectious?
I still cannot get my head around the info to schools posted yesterday. 30 medical professionals having to stay home for 2 weeks in case they picked it up at a meeting, and now (2 weeks alter) the ROOM is being fumigated, and yet they want our kids to just got to school and carry on as normal! No handwashing tips / breaks, no gel dispensers, no education on not passing it about...!
An infected GP is bad news, given that by definition they spend a lot of time around sick people. I think it's right to be very careful there.

Suspect that the fumigation of the room 2 weeks later is biosecurity theatre to make the public feel safer.

Gregmitchell

1,745 posts

117 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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No more cases, only 400 tested in the last 24 hrs.


As of 17 February, a total of 4,501 people have been tested, of which 4,492 were confirmed negative and 9 positive.


As of 18 February, a total of 4,916 people have been tested, of which 4,907 were confirmed negative and 9 positive.







motco

15,956 posts

246 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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nffcforever said:
otolith said:
p1stonhead said:
454 people in a confined space. Lots of diseases have spread around cruises before. Not surprising at all.

None are dead. Are any even ‘very’ ill?
How long have they been symptomatic? When I looked at this the other day, even with a very much higher than realistic death rate we wouldn't expect deaths yet.
I read somewhere about 19 or 20 people in critical condition (approx 4-5%)
An unguarded comment by an interviewee on 'Today' this morning was to the effect that a woman's husband who was in hospital "...isn't doing too well".

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

170 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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No one mentioned this yet?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51541352

emperorburger

1,484 posts

66 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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Alucidnation said:
No one mentioned this yet?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51541352
People that go on cruises are always moaning about something. They get a free of charge extended holiday and they are still not happy.
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