Coronavirus - Is this the killer flu that will wipe us out?

Coronavirus - Is this the killer flu that will wipe us out?

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anonymous-user

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54 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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It isn’t confirmed yet that this particular virus is human-human transmissible and it most likely isn’t. That is often the case with infections caught from another species.

There is always the possibility that a virus could mutate to become human-human transmissible and the more humans that are infected, the more likely that becomes.

But it isn’t common enough to be of immediate concern.

Vipers

32,880 posts

228 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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Good to see several international air ports are started screening, except Heathrow, reason they said the risk to the UK population is very low FFS.

Let’s wait until we have an outbreak first.

SlimJim16v

5,658 posts

143 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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JPJPJP said:
And, in the longer term, unless new antibiotics are developed and/or the world gets better at using the current ones in order to retain their effectiveness, then we might have a much reduced armoury against infections that are quite easily treated today, but that without treatment would kill plenty of people
I didn't read it, but the headline was something about cannabis being of possible use against antibiotic resistant superbugs.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/jan/19/ca...

otolith

56,091 posts

204 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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It says that one of the many compounds found in cannabis may have some use - I expect to see brain dead stoner memes about cannabis curing everything known to man incorporating a misinterpretation of this new bit of information soon laugh

anonymous-user

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54 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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This is the most interesting (to me) part of the article

“when CBG was used with small quantities of polymyxin B, an existing antibiotic that disrupts the outer membrane of gram negative bacteria, the cannabis compound wiped out the drug-resistant pathogens.“

Combinations of an anti microbial + something else that helps it work might be a relatively easy win in finding useful treatments for some infections

Here is a bit about it from a charity that you might consider bunging a few bob to

https://www.antibioticresearch.org.uk/research/ant...

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 19th January 20:17

otolith

56,091 posts

204 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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That's not a new approach, though - e.g. https://gskpro.com/en-mt/products/augmentin/indica...

otolith

56,091 posts

204 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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(in fact your link mentions that combo)

Gromm

890 posts

57 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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Kewl, just added pot to my EVD survival list of baked beans, bottled water, Laphroaig and batteries.

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anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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otolith said:
That's not a new approach, though - e.g. https://gskpro.com/en-mt/products/augmentin/indica...
Indeed, absent new classes of antibiotics being discovered, previous science is being revisited. Phage therapy for instance making headlines again https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-01/uo...

Meanwhile antibiotic developers are going skint: Melinta and Achaogen showing how hard it is to make antibiotics pay, even with fda approval etc http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2019/12...

Some Gump

12,689 posts

186 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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Just hope that Motaba never gets out.
On one hand there may be a vaccine, but will it be developed faster than Donald Sutharland can bomb you?

Macron

9,875 posts

166 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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poo at Paul's

14,147 posts

175 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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Macron said:
Flight bans soon?

anonymous-user

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54 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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Here is the WHO page

https://www.who.int/westernpacific/emergencies/nov...

at the time of writing this it has not been updated since 17 Jan

otolith

56,091 posts

204 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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JPJPJP said:
Meanwhile antibiotic developers are going skint: Melinta and Achaogen showing how hard it is to make antibiotics pay, even with fda approval etc http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2019/12...
Yes, this is madness. By the time we really need novel antibiotics there won't be time to develop them. The free market will deliver - eventually - just not in time for people who catch bacteria which are resistant to everything.

rallye101

1,898 posts

197 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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loafer123 said:
I had a very nasty bout of flu before Christmas...properly knocked me out for two weeks.

The upside is that I produced so many antibodies that I am impervious to all bugs for about 6 months.

Which is nice.
Haha, me too! Saved a small fortune ££££ in not going out

croyde

22,888 posts

230 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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Some Gump said:
Just hope that Motaba never gets out.
On one hand there may be a vaccine, but will it be developed faster than Donald Sutharland can bomb you?
Love that film

Fastchas

2,645 posts

121 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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I like playing 'PLAGUE' on my iPhone...

otolith

56,091 posts

204 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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There was a neat experiment using a mobile phone app to simulate contagion of a pathogen - using Bluetooth, proximity to an "infected" phone carried a risk of becoming infected oneself. I think it was a documentary, but I can't find it now. Key thing was that some people were superspreaders because of their social networks, and infected many more people than average.

drmotorsport

747 posts

243 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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Alucidnation said:
Odd question but how do these things even begin to start 'forming'?

Is it a normal strain that someone has caught and for whatever reasons, it's mutated into something stronger and then been passed on?

Or is it something that is man made and released into the air for population control?


jester
Indeed. Also why do these pandemic viruses always seem to emerge from the far east, what the hell are the Chinese up to!?

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

228 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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stuarthat said:
On Netflix series called explained, and has a show that covers diseases and epidemics excellent show.
Never heard of it. I guess it hasn't gone viral yet.
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