Coronavirus - Is this the killer flu that will wipe us out?
Discussion
eharding said:
red_slr said:
TTmonkey said:
The family want to go to Thailand this time next year, I’m being pressured to spend a fat load of money now.
But the thing is if this goes pandemic we won’t be going anywhere, especially not somewhere like that.
Answer from the know all daughter is ‘duh just buy insurance’ but this generation has no idea that insurance gets s
tcanned by companies as soon as they see reason to. Any declaration of a pandemic is likely to mean insurance is voided, and you lose the cost of the holiday, or worst, you go, get I’ll, and it’s excluded from claims.
The people on the cruise had insurance and it was worth fek all to them. And that’s at first outbreak.
Read my post above, my travel insurance company have already said I am not covered, and I am going to northern Italy tomorrow where we for 100% sure know the virus is active. Winging it for next year, nope I would be hanging on for at least a few weeks not worth the risk.But the thing is if this goes pandemic we won’t be going anywhere, especially not somewhere like that.
Answer from the know all daughter is ‘duh just buy insurance’ but this generation has no idea that insurance gets s
tcanned by companies as soon as they see reason to. Any declaration of a pandemic is likely to mean insurance is voided, and you lose the cost of the holiday, or worst, you go, get I’ll, and it’s excluded from claims. The people on the cruise had insurance and it was worth fek all to them. And that’s at first outbreak.
eharding said:
red_slr said:
TTmonkey said:
The family want to go to Thailand this time next year, I’m being pressured to spend a fat load of money now.
But the thing is if this goes pandemic we won’t be going anywhere, especially not somewhere like that.
Answer from the know all daughter is ‘duh just buy insurance’ but this generation has no idea that insurance gets stcanned by companies as soon as they see reason to. Any declaration of a pandemic is likely to mean insurance is voided, and you lose the cost of the holiday, or worst, you go, get I’ll, and it’s excluded from claims.
The people on the cruise had insurance and it was worth fek all to them. And that’s at first outbreak.
Read my post above, my travel insurance company have already said I am not covered, and I am going to northern Italy tomorrow where we for 100% sure know the virus is active. Winging it for next year, nope I would be hanging on for at least a few weeks not worth the risk.But the thing is if this goes pandemic we won’t be going anywhere, especially not somewhere like that.
Answer from the know all daughter is ‘duh just buy insurance’ but this generation has no idea that insurance gets s
tcanned by companies as soon as they see reason to. Any declaration of a pandemic is likely to mean insurance is voided, and you lose the cost of the holiday, or worst, you go, get I’ll, and it’s excluded from claims. The people on the cruise had insurance and it was worth fek all to them. And that’s at first outbreak.
TTmonkey said:
So I’m at a costa coffee at a major int airport (Budapest) posting this. I’ve just watched around 200 customers put milk from a jug in their teas and coffees. The jug doesn’t get washed between fill ups, almost everyone touches this one same surface immediately before they consume drinks and snacks bought there.
The place is obviously a melting pot of different cultures. People from all over Europe and beyond.
On a different note a pub I was in on Saturday had glasses open on the bar with things like fruit in for cocktails I believe. Just open to anyone breathing/coughing over them. Can't be hygienic and I wouldn't fancy that!The place is obviously a melting pot of different cultures. People from all over Europe and beyond.
I do agree with the minister getting people to take it seriously and perhaps I took it the wrong way.
janesmith1950 said:
or me it's not bravado, it's pragmatism.
The virus may spread, it may kill some people who would otherwise not have died, but life must go on. I don't accept it's a dangerous enough illness to shut down our entire way of life.
I think you will end up being right. But, for now, as the world tries to get to grips with it and whilst towns are being put on 'lockdown' at short notice, it makes sense to act accordingly. For instance, I wouldn't want to be caught up in a 'lockdown' somewhere other than at home if I could avoid it, particularly not somewhere where I had less knowledge of the language / how the health system works etc.The virus may spread, it may kill some people who would otherwise not have died, but life must go on. I don't accept it's a dangerous enough illness to shut down our entire way of life.
For me that means curtailing any international travel, limiting domestic travel and being a touch more careful with hygiene / mixing with people etc.
Just until the picture becomes clearer
poo at Paul's said:
He's right though. If this virus touches you and your life personally, you may well see things differently.
I had the swine flu over Christmas 2010. Two weeks of feeling like death and a few days of struggling to breathe. A person I went to school with (who was 30 at the time and otherwise healthy) died of pneumonia due to the same.I have 2 young (fortunately healthy) children.
There's nothing wrong with good hygiene at any time, however I don't believe we should be shutting down airports or asking people to stop at home.
Life must go on and there's not much to be gained by letting the population get it slowly and miserably house to house rather than letting the thing run and burn out.
nffcforever said:
"Iran's semiofficial ILNA news agency is reporting that the death toll from the new coronavirus in the city of Qom is 50. The report on Monday says the 50 deaths took place since Feb 13."So working that back they have at least 2,500 cases in just over a week.
janesmith1950 said:
poo at Paul's said:
He's right though. If this virus touches you and your life personally, you may well see things differently.
I had the swine flu over Christmas 2010. Two weeks of feeling like death and a few days of struggling to breathe. A person I went to school with (who was 30 at the time and otherwise healthy) died of pneumonia due to the same.I have 2 young (fortunately healthy) children.
There's nothing wrong with good hygiene at any time, however I don't believe we should be shutting down airports or asking people to stop at home.
Life must go on and there's not much to be gained by letting the population get it slowly and miserably house to house rather than letting the thing run and burn out.
p1stonhead said:
TTmonkey said:
So I’m at a costa coffee at a major int airport (Budapest) posting this. I’ve just watched around 200 customers put milk from a jug in their teas and coffees. The jug doesn’t get washed between fill ups, almost everyone touches this one same surface immediately before they consume drinks and snacks bought there.
The place is obviously a melting pot of different cultures. People from all over Europe and beyond.
Yet people aren’t getting it in the millions like they should in an airport and major city. The place is obviously a melting pot of different cultures. People from all over Europe and beyond.
Or millions are, but it has zero effect.
As I said, unfathomable.
I suspect it will be much slower than this initially, but then we will see it either die off altogether, or bloom, like virus do.
janesmith1950 said:
poo at Paul's said:
He's right though. If this virus touches you and your life personally, you may well see things differently.
I had the swine flu over Christmas 2010. Two weeks of feeling like death and a few days of struggling to breathe. A person I went to school with (who was 30 at the time and otherwise healthy) died of pneumonia due to the same.I have 2 young (fortunately healthy) children.
There's nothing wrong with good hygiene at any time, however I don't believe we should be shutting down airports or asking people to stop at home.
Life must go on and there's not much to be gained by letting the population get it slowly and miserably house to house rather than letting the thing run and burn out.
IF some of the reasonable worst case estimates of 40-60% infected and 1% of infections ending in death are close to being correct, then most countries are not going to stand by and say “life must go on” if that means 0.6% of their population might die.
There is literally life to be gained by slowing the spread and “letting the population get it slowly” as it reduces the concurrent burden on health services and allows for time to research therapeutic treatments and vaccines.
Edited by nffcforever on Monday 24th February 10:24
red_slr said:
nffcforever said:
"Iran's semiofficial ILNA news agency is reporting that the death toll from the new coronavirus in the city of Qom is 50. The report on Monday says the 50 deaths took place since Feb 13."So working that back they have at least 2,500 cases in just over a week.
p1stonhead said:
TTmonkey said:
So I’m at a costa coffee at a major int airport (Budapest) posting this. I’ve just watched around 200 customers put milk from a jug in their teas and coffees. The jug doesn’t get washed between fill ups, almost everyone touches this one same surface immediately before they consume drinks and snacks bought there.
The place is obviously a melting pot of different cultures. People from all over Europe and beyond.
Yet people aren’t getting it in the millions like they should in an airport and major city. The place is obviously a melting pot of different cultures. People from all over Europe and beyond.
There could be 1000's with it by now, but are not yet showing symptoms......
Things could be very different in a weeks time, or 2 weeks time.....
red_slr said:
Captain Smerc said:
LBC having a phone in this morning 
Ta listeningTTmonkey said:
The family want to go to Thailand this time next year, I’m being pressured to spend a fat load of money now.
But the thing is if this goes pandemic we won’t be going anywhere, especially not somewhere like that.
Answer from the know all daughter is ‘duh just buy insurance’ but this generation has no idea that insurance gets stcanned by companies as soon as they see reason to. Any declaration of a pandemic is likely to mean insurance is voided, and you lose the cost of the holiday, or worst, you go, get I’ll, and it’s excluded from claims.
The people on the cruise had insurance and it was worth fek all to them. And that’s at first outbreak.
Wife and daughter are trying to get me to book a holiday in Sardinia. Which I'm not all that keen on doing atm. But the thing is if this goes pandemic we won’t be going anywhere, especially not somewhere like that.
Answer from the know all daughter is ‘duh just buy insurance’ but this generation has no idea that insurance gets s
tcanned by companies as soon as they see reason to. Any declaration of a pandemic is likely to mean insurance is voided, and you lose the cost of the holiday, or worst, you go, get I’ll, and it’s excluded from claims. The people on the cruise had insurance and it was worth fek all to them. And that’s at first outbreak.
Gregmitchell said:
red_slr said:
Captain Smerc said:
LBC having a phone in this morning
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