US presidential election 2020:Winner?

US presidential election 2020:Winner?

Poll: US presidential election 2020:Winner?

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Total Members Polled: 684

Biden: 18%
Trump: 70%
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Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

231 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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JagLover said:
Don't discourage them. All political rallies could do with some topless women.
Now there is some wisdom nobody should dispute. biggrin

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

231 months

Saturday 22nd February 2020
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One of the stories being discussed by news agencies (WAPO is one that features this) is that Bloomberg has a plan to win a brokered convention. If no candidate has 50% by convention time, then it is brokered. At this time, delegates can switch teams, something they cannot do unless at a brokered convention. This is where some fear that Bloomberg’s billions come into play. Also, that the DNC will want him as a candidate because he is more likely to defeat Trump even if he earned less delegates. They may sway others to switch to Mike, thus screwing Bernie again as they did in 2016. This will ps off the left and progressives but defeating Trump might be stronger than principles here, especially for the moderates. If the convention is not a brokered one, Mike or the DNC will have a far more difficult time cutting Bernie out.
That would be dirty but politics is a dirty game.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

231 months

Saturday 22nd February 2020
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Bloomberg campaign offices vandalized. He blames Sanders’ supporters. This has to of course wait for an official investigation, but a number of Bernie’s supporters do have a reputation for being on the violent side. Sanders in no way encourages or condones this; it really is beyond his control.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bloomberg-campaig...

unrepentant

21,257 posts

256 months

Saturday 22nd February 2020
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Clint Eastwood has endorsed Bloomberg for President.

Wait for inevitable ststorm from the orange dotard.

"Clint Who?"

"Never liked the washed up has been".

"Terrible actor and even worse mayor".

"He's a democrat".

etc.. etc... ad nauseum.


Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

231 months

Saturday 22nd February 2020
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unrepentant said:
Clint Eastwood has endorsed Bloomberg for President.

Wait for inevitable ststorm from the orange dotard.

"Clint Who?"

"Never liked the washed up has been".

"Terrible actor and even worse mayor".

"He's a democrat".

etc.. etc... ad nauseum.
I really would not mind Bloomberg to be honest. I am fairly certain he would govern very similarly to Trump policy-wise. He would run left and govern more right after winning like Bill Clinton did. He would also enjoy a soft touch from the media because he would be running against Trump. Once in though, they would turn on him for not being “progressive” or left enough.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

231 months

Saturday 22nd February 2020
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The Nevada Caucus has been called. Sanders is proclaimed the winner with 54.6% of the votes. Biden with 17.8; Warren with 9.6, and Pete with 8.5 so far. More to go.
This is with only 6% of the precincts reporting. However, based upon which precincts are reporting vs. who is left, they have gotten pretty rock solid on calling the races early. The final numbers and the official winner will be announced tomorrow. Likely Sanders will be official but with some changes numbers.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

231 months

Saturday 22nd February 2020
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Another point about Bloomberg. He says he will spend his money for whoever gets the nomination. Many on the Dem side despise much of what Bloomberg stands for as well as his wealth. I wager, however, they will readily accept his money as the Dems are being out raised about 2 to 1. Will he stand by his pledge? Time will tell.

Edited by Jimbeaux on Sunday 23 February 01:33

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

231 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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Bernie said that he was briefed on the Russian meddling on his behalf a month ago. Reporters asked why it just came out publicly a day before the Nevada caucus. He said the WAPO released it the day before because the Dems and their media does not want him to win. I suppose he has a reason to worry about that after what they did to him in 2016.
I understand why the Dems do not want him to. He honeymooned in Moscow, he praises a form of government that is currently destroying Venezuela. He defended Castro, etc. These are easily beatable stances in a general election; therefore, it is obvious the Dems might want him to lose the nomination. This will be interesting.






Edited by Jimbeaux on Sunday 23 February 01:38

hidetheelephants

24,344 posts

193 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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Jimbeaux said:
Bernie said that he was briefed on the Russian meddling on his behalf a month ago. Reporters asked why it just came out publicly a day before the Nevada caucus. He said the WAPO released it the day before because the Dems and their media does not want him to win. I suppose he has a reason to worry about that after what they did to him in 2016.
I understand why the Dems do not want him to. He honeymooned in Moscow, he praises a form of government that is currently destroying Venezuela. He defended Castro, etc. These are easily beatable stances in a general election; therefore, it is obvious the Dems might want him to lose the nomination. This will be interesting.
rofl
Kleptocratic nepotism with rampant corruption is more Trump's bag. Nice try though JB.

turbobloke

103,953 posts

260 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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Jimbeaux said:
Bernie said that he was briefed on the Russian meddling on his behalf a month ago. Reporters asked why it just came out publicly a day before the Nevada caucus. He said the WAPO released it the day before because the Dems and their media does not want him to win. I suppose he has a reason to worry about that after what they did to him in 2016.
I understand why the Dems do not want him to. He honeymooned in Moscow, he praises a form of government that is currently destroying Venezuela. He defended Castro, etc. These are easily beatable stances in a general election; therefore, it is obvious the Dems might want him to lose the nomination. This will be interesting.
While many countries including Colombia and Brazil - and other leading Democrat candidates - no longer recognise Maduro as Venezuela’s 'Socialists United' president, Sanders does, while also opposing economic sanctions. He's called Maduro a name or two but stops there. When it's said that middle class Venezuelans live off the dollar while the poor live off Maduro's left-wing slogans and declining handouts, with more than a million escaping (1 million+ in Colombia alone) what can Sanders possibly see as the gain from his isolated position?

kowalski655

Original Poster:

14,640 posts

143 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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hidetheelephants said:
rofl
Kleptocratic nepotism with rampant corruption is more Trump's bag. Nice try though JB.
And Trump is Putin's bh

p1stonhead

25,544 posts

167 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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Bernie surely the nomination now. On their head be it if the Dems don’t run with him.

kowalski655

Original Poster:

14,640 posts

143 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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Yeah,they thought"vote blue no matter who" would get the Bernie support to back the expected winner:Biden, but they are not so happy now Bernie is in front, I bet that slogan might go quiet

Carl_Manchester

12,196 posts

262 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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We don’t truly know how the Dem.
Senators will react, it could be a repeat of the Rep. attitude towards Trump - Denial then acceptance.

Looks like Bern is going to win fair and square and that’s the important thing, that the young people voting for Sanders have a dog in the fight. Democracy in action.


Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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The seven stages of; shock, denial, anger, bargaining, depression, testing, and acceptance.

NoNeed

15,137 posts

200 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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Carl_Manchester said:
We don’t truly know how the Dem.
Senators will react, it could be a repeat of the Rep. attitude towards Trump - Denial then acceptance.

Looks like Bern is going to win fair and square and that’s the important thing, that the young people voting for Sanders have a dog in the fight. Democracy in action.
Which means Hilary will get the nomination again

Countdown

39,884 posts

196 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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Jimbeaux said:
Bernie said that he was briefed on the Russian meddling on his behalf a month ago. Reporters asked why it just came out publicly a day before the Nevada caucus. He said the WAPO released it the day before because the Dems and their media does not want him to win. I suppose he has a reason to worry about that after what they did to him in 2016.
I understand why the Dems do not want him to. He honeymooned in Moscow, he praises a form of government that is currently destroying Venezuela. He defended Castro, etc. These are easily beatable stances in a general election; therefore, it is obvious the Dems might want him to lose the nomination. This will be interesting.
The Russians are meddling in favour of Bernie because it’s likely to benefit Trump.
The Russians also meddled in favour of Trump in 2016.
There have been numerous stories about Trump using dirty Russian money to support his businesses
I’ve lost count of the number of times Trump has used the Courts to try and hide the financial links.

Your POTUS is in Putin’s hip pocket. It became transparently clear when he criticised the US security agencies and accepted Putin’s explanation at a press conference. Does this not embarrass you even one little bit?


JagLover

42,406 posts

235 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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Countdown said:
The Russians are meddling in favour of Bernie because it’s likely to benefit Trump.
Bernie has clear foreign policy and defence positions that will find favour with Russia and China as well as with their client states. Russia is likely just as happy with a Bernie win, if not more so, than a Trump one.


grumbledoak

31,532 posts

233 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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All this Russia stuff is hilarious.

The organisations most clearly interfering in the US elections are:
a) the "intelligence services" speaking anonymously against the candidate(s) they don't like, and
b) Israel

The Russians spent less money on the US elections in 2016 than Mike Bloomberg did this morning. lol.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

231 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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kowalski655 said:
And Trump is Putin's bh
You may ride on Hidetheelephant’s post but he is mistaken, as Turbobloke has pointed out.
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