Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 9
Discussion
Leithen said:
technodup said:
It's somewhat ironic that in spite of the constant SNP mantra of having a mandate, one of their own is brought down by trying to secure a man date.
This deserves more recognition. 
plenty of scope for refinement too....
Have another one to feast on for Friday........
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/got-an...
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/got-an...
I suspect this one may run and run. Guido noting that his twitter feed is a literal smorgasbord of ‘show don’t tell’..
https://order-order.com/2020/02/06/mackay-always-t...
https://order-order.com/2020/02/06/mackay-always-t...
Big-Bo-Beep said:
youre not jumping to conclusions at all are you, t's a very long way from innocuous texts to actual coitus don't you think ?
bachelor field-marshal montgomery , it was said, all through his adult life liked, preferred even, the company
of teenage boys, people thought it unusual, his army colleagues thought it unusual, MI5 certainly thought it
unusual and tried their damndest to find anything inappropriate in these friendships, which they didn't.
the only people who didn't think it unusual were bernard and the young men.
i just thought i'd share that, one can have smoke without fire.
A nice window into the mind of an average SNP supporter?bachelor field-marshal montgomery , it was said, all through his adult life liked, preferred even, the company
of teenage boys, people thought it unusual, his army colleagues thought it unusual, MI5 certainly thought it
unusual and tried their damndest to find anything inappropriate in these friendships, which they didn't.
the only people who didn't think it unusual were bernard and the young men.
i just thought i'd share that, one can have smoke without fire.
Evercross said:
Sufficient numbers to get 170 or so of them an MSP/MP/FM salary, but that's nowhere near the same thing as voting for independence.
I agree. But what it does is perpetuate the noise.It's utterly bizarre that those who don't want independence (assuming that is a majority) don't get sick enough of the whining to vote against the SNP when it comes to elections.
Maybe they do but their vote is split? Or maybe the way the voting system works means they are concentrated (or not) sub-optimally.
I guess at the end of the day they are something of an irrelevance at the UK level. But it would be useful (if we want to try and get rid of divisiveness - probably impossible in the circumstances) to get some proper closure on it.
Murph7355 said:
It's utterly bizarre that those who don't want independence (assuming that is a majority) don't get sick enough of the whining to vote against the SNP when it comes to elections.
Maybe they do but their vote is split?
That's exactly it. More people vote for non SNP candidates than do for the SNP, but those votes are split across several parties. So we end up with the SNP, which gives the UK the impression we're all frothing at the mouth separatists. Maybe they do but their vote is split?
It would be comical if the SNP got slaughtered in the Scottish elections, losing control. That would put them in the strange lacuna of being the largest Scottish party in Westminster, with no control over the UK, and no control of Scotland. Basically like the political version of an appendix. Can be incredibly annoying and dangerous when plugged in, but not missed if you take it out.
janesmith1950 said:
It would be comical if the SNP got slaughtered in the Scottish elections, losing control. That would put them in the strange lacuna of being the largest Scottish party in Westminster, with no control over the UK, and no control of Scotland. Basically like the political version of an appendix. Can be incredibly annoying and dangerous when plugged in, but not missed if you take it out.
They lost control at the last election, but they try to keep that quiet. They are a minority at Holyrood.FrenchCarFan said:
Big-Bo-Beep said:
youre not jumping to conclusions at all are you, t's a very long way from innocuous texts to actual coitus don't you think ?
bachelor field-marshal montgomery , it was said, all through his adult life liked, preferred even, the company
of teenage boys, people thought it unusual, his army colleagues thought it unusual, MI5 certainly thought it
unusual and tried their damndest to find anything inappropriate in these friendships, which they didn't.
the only people who didn't think it unusual were bernard and the young men.
i just thought i'd share that, one can have smoke without fire.
It is but even messaging shows he is a total wrong 'un. Your deflection guff about Monty don't change that at all.bachelor field-marshal montgomery , it was said, all through his adult life liked, preferred even, the company
of teenage boys, people thought it unusual, his army colleagues thought it unusual, MI5 certainly thought it
unusual and tried their damndest to find anything inappropriate in these friendships, which they didn't.
the only people who didn't think it unusual were bernard and the young men.
i just thought i'd share that, one can have smoke without fire.
Condemn it or be accused of being an apologist for pedophilic behaviour.
This guy needs shooting.
Grossly distasteful, yes, but paedophilic it most certainly isn't and the assertion does nothing but show your ignorance.
DocJock said:
FrenchCarFan said:
Big-Bo-Beep said:
youre not jumping to conclusions at all are you, t's a very long way from innocuous texts to actual coitus don't you think ?
bachelor field-marshal montgomery , it was said, all through his adult life liked, preferred even, the company
of teenage boys, people thought it unusual, his army colleagues thought it unusual, MI5 certainly thought it
unusual and tried their damndest to find anything inappropriate in these friendships, which they didn't.
the only people who didn't think it unusual were bernard and the young men.
i just thought i'd share that, one can have smoke without fire.
It is but even messaging shows he is a total wrong 'un. Your deflection guff about Monty don't change that at all.bachelor field-marshal montgomery , it was said, all through his adult life liked, preferred even, the company
of teenage boys, people thought it unusual, his army colleagues thought it unusual, MI5 certainly thought it
unusual and tried their damndest to find anything inappropriate in these friendships, which they didn't.
the only people who didn't think it unusual were bernard and the young men.
i just thought i'd share that, one can have smoke without fire.
Condemn it or be accused of being an apologist for pedophilic behaviour.
This guy needs shooting.
Grossly distasteful, yes, but paedophilic it most certainly isn't and the assertion does nothing but show your ignorance.
He deserves to be removed from government and hold no job where he's in regular contact with children. I'd be wanting a warrant for his computer as well.
As I said in the dedicated thread - the transcripts of his communications with the boy (and further revelations today) shows that MacKay was making a big deal of his political status to attempt to impress the people he was contacting, as well as inviting them along to political jollies and party activities. That is an unequivocal abuse of power. His party think he crossed a line. Their supporters should get with the plan.
Silverbullet767 said:
DocJock said:
FrenchCarFan said:
Big-Bo-Beep said:
youre not jumping to conclusions at all are you, t's a very long way from innocuous texts to actual coitus don't you think ?
bachelor field-marshal montgomery , it was said, all through his adult life liked, preferred even, the company
of teenage boys, people thought it unusual, his army colleagues thought it unusual, MI5 certainly thought it
unusual and tried their damndest to find anything inappropriate in these friendships, which they didn't.
the only people who didn't think it unusual were bernard and the young men.
i just thought i'd share that, one can have smoke without fire.
It is but even messaging shows he is a total wrong 'un. Your deflection guff about Monty don't change that at all.bachelor field-marshal montgomery , it was said, all through his adult life liked, preferred even, the company
of teenage boys, people thought it unusual, his army colleagues thought it unusual, MI5 certainly thought it
unusual and tried their damndest to find anything inappropriate in these friendships, which they didn't.
the only people who didn't think it unusual were bernard and the young men.
i just thought i'd share that, one can have smoke without fire.
Condemn it or be accused of being an apologist for pedophilic behaviour.
This guy needs shooting.
Grossly distasteful, yes, but paedophilic it most certainly isn't and the assertion does nothing but show your ignorance.
He deserves to be removed from government and hold no job where he's in regular contact with children. I'd be wanting a warrant for his computer as well.
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18217581.nicol...
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/5257550/dere...
This gets more and more rotten.
Attempts to silence the media about this...
all par for the course with this rotten party.
Stronger for Scotland though, just keep waving those flags and banners and don’t dare question the narrative.
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/5257550/dere...
This gets more and more rotten.
Attempts to silence the media about this...
all par for the course with this rotten party.
Stronger for Scotland though, just keep waving those flags and banners and don’t dare question the narrative.
Big-Bo-Beep said:
youre not jumping to conclusions at all are you, t's a very long way from innocuous texts to actual coitus don't you think ?
bachelor field-marshal montgomery , it was said, all through his adult life liked, preferred even, the company
of teenage boys, people thought it unusual, his army colleagues thought it unusual, MI5 certainly thought it
unusual and tried their damndest to find anything inappropriate in these friendships, which they didn't.
the only people who didn't think it unusual were bernard and the young men.
Well we learn something everyday. Did they find little love letters to 16 year olds saying he thought them cute?bachelor field-marshal montgomery , it was said, all through his adult life liked, preferred even, the company
of teenage boys, people thought it unusual, his army colleagues thought it unusual, MI5 certainly thought it
unusual and tried their damndest to find anything inappropriate in these friendships, which they didn't.
the only people who didn't think it unusual were bernard and the young men.
Alpacaman said:
https://www.facebook.com/Yesnpbrigadoon/photos/a.6...
Anyone wanting a less serious take on todays events might want to visit YESNP Brigadoon and Shortbread West on Facebook.
A ruder version of 'Still Game'Anyone wanting a less serious take on todays events might want to visit YESNP Brigadoon and Shortbread West on Facebook.
Big-Bo-Beep said:
bachelor field-marshal montgomery , it was said, all through his adult life liked, preferred even, the company of teenage boys, people thought it unusual, his army colleagues thought it unusual, MI5 certainly thought itunusual and tried their damndest to find anything inappropriate in these friendships, which they didn't.
the only people who didn't think it unusual were bernard and the young men.
i just thought i'd share that, one can have smoke without fire.
Not disagreeing but just as an observation Montgomery had a wife (who died early), and a son. Not that that means anything pace Philip Schofield, but he was also pretty much a homophobe at least politically: on the legalisation of homosexuality It was a “charter for buggery. This sort of thing may be tolerated by the French, but we're British – thank God".the only people who didn't think it unusual were bernard and the young men.
i just thought i'd share that, one can have smoke without fire.
A.J.M said:
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18217581.nicol...
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/5257550/dere...
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/5257550/dere...
Herald said:
The 42-year-old is also said to have regularly enjoyed energetic evenings at nightclubs with young men.
Haha. Journalistic euphemism of the week.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff