Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 9
Discussion
so the majority of the central belt is supposedly going into tier 3, the level that allows ‘hospitality’ to still open, can’t sell alcohol, but can still ‘open’
am i being cynical that they’ve allowed ‘hospitality’ to open in level 3, because they knew that was the most likely level for the majority. so when they allow these venues to open they don’t have to give any financial support because it’s up to them to trade and make a profit
am i being cynical that they’ve allowed ‘hospitality’ to open in level 3, because they knew that was the most likely level for the majority. so when they allow these venues to open they don’t have to give any financial support because it’s up to them to trade and make a profit
malks222 said:
so the majority of the central belt is supposedly going into tier 3, the level that allows ‘hospitality’ to still open, can’t sell alcohol, but can still ‘open’
am i being cynical that they’ve allowed ‘hospitality’ to open in level 3, because they knew that was the most likely level for the majority. so when they allow these venues to open they don’t have to give any financial support because it’s up to them to trade and make a profit
Thought the same thing. Cynic that I am am i being cynical that they’ve allowed ‘hospitality’ to open in level 3, because they knew that was the most likely level for the majority. so when they allow these venues to open they don’t have to give any financial support because it’s up to them to trade and make a profit
biggbn said:
Thought the same thing. Cynic that I am
Same. The rules on food & soft drinks only means it’ll basically be Wetherspoons opening, if that. All the independent old man’s pubs are going to sink even further into the financial mire.At least they’ve finally stopped the nonsense about what’s a restaurant vs cafe. Maybe the Interim Interdicts in Glasgow concentrated minds.
Also, is that now 6 tiers we’re up to? Sounds like there’s a 1.5 that’s been added. As predicted, nowhere seems to going into tier zero.
irc said:
Anyone else think it's a bit like 1984 style Newspeak callling the lowest tier "Tier Zero" when it has major restrictions on normal life? So, if we get there the sheeple will be happy and not want actual freedom back?
Precisely this. The general populace have willingly relinquished social and political liberty, and the government in the shape of the controlling, Orwellian SNP will fight tooth and nail to retain that control. Expect further obfuscation and bluster from the Daily Sturgeon Show, the multitude of ridiculous tier options they have created means they could virtually roll a dice and determine each local lockdown on a daily basis. Seen quite a few social media interventions today from the usual tame party shills - they are starting to see through the political games, and they are losing patience with the Murrell oligarchy. The peasants are revolting.Meanwhile, back at the Salmond enquiry... nothing to see here, of course. That halibut isn't smelling any better.
Article said:
A civil servant has admitted deleting a controversial text sent to her by Scotland’s most senior official after Alex Salmond’s successful court action against the Scottish Government.
Communications Director Barbara Allison had originally denied receiving the electronic message from Permanent Secretary Leslie Evans, which said: “Battle maybe lost but not the war”.
The text has been interpreted by Alex Salmond’s supporters as evidence of a conspiracy against the former first minister.
When Ms Allison first appeared under oath in front of the Salmond inquiry last month, she answered “no” when asked if she had received the text by Labour MSP Jackie Baillie.
https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/politics/scottish-politics/2601295/salmond-inquiry-the-civil-servant-the-deleted-text-and-the-battle-and-the-war/Communications Director Barbara Allison had originally denied receiving the electronic message from Permanent Secretary Leslie Evans, which said: “Battle maybe lost but not the war”.
The text has been interpreted by Alex Salmond’s supporters as evidence of a conspiracy against the former first minister.
When Ms Allison first appeared under oath in front of the Salmond inquiry last month, she answered “no” when asked if she had received the text by Labour MSP Jackie Baillie.
How interesting. The SNP accounts have finally been published by the Electoral Commission, and they don't make for pretty reading...
https://wingsoverscotland.com/youve-been-robbed/
Rev Stu said:
As Wings has been warning for most of this year, something in the region of £700,000 in supposedly “ring-fenced” money raised by two crowdfunding campaigns has indeed vanished into the maw of the party machine, leaving just under £97,000 in the bank.
(More than £300,000 down on last year, despite a £600,000 increase in “donations”, the bulk of which in fact came from the UK government).
This has happened despite the party angrily and categorically insisting that the money would NOT be spent until there was a new independence referendum.
Lots of negative comments from the disillusioned nationalist fraternity at the bottom of the article. This is all becoming increasingly popcorn worthy.(More than £300,000 down on last year, despite a £600,000 increase in “donations”, the bulk of which in fact came from the UK government).
This has happened despite the party angrily and categorically insisting that the money would NOT be spent until there was a new independence referendum.
https://wingsoverscotland.com/youve-been-robbed/
Roderick Spode said:
How interesting. The SNP accounts have finally been published by the Electoral Commission, and they don't make for pretty reading...
https://wingsoverscotland.com/youve-been-robbed/
How not to run a business, any business - even one that makes ferries, hospitals, road bridges etc etcRev Stu said:
As Wings has been warning for most of this year, something in the region of £700,000 in supposedly “ring-fenced” money raised by two crowdfunding campaigns has indeed vanished into the maw of the party machine, leaving just under £97,000 in the bank.
(More than £300,000 down on last year, despite a £600,000 increase in “donations”, the bulk of which in fact came from the UK government).
This has happened despite the party angrily and categorically insisting that the money would NOT be spent until there was a new independence referendum.
Lots of negative comments from the disillusioned nationalist fraternity at the bottom of the article. This is all becoming increasingly popcorn worthy.(More than £300,000 down on last year, despite a £600,000 increase in “donations”, the bulk of which in fact came from the UK government).
This has happened despite the party angrily and categorically insisting that the money would NOT be spent until there was a new independence referendum.
https://wingsoverscotland.com/youve-been-robbed/
Can we keep Nicola in office for another 4 years please?
At the rate of attrition most 12 year olds will have more money in the bank than the SNP does.
I thought this song was a bit of banter not a prophecy.
The Dubliners
A Pub With No Beer
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2jqsgFVJ5ts
The Dubliners
A Pub With No Beer
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2jqsgFVJ5ts
technodup said:
Burger was asking for evidence of the party turning against her- I'm sure for some reason that won't cut it, but I'd love to hear his 'reasoning'.
'Reasoning' from Burger? doubt it, Jeez'oning maybe. Some of the comments from SNat's in the WoS link are astonishing, many of them coming to the realisation that
their masters are actually full of deceit and corruption after all, for those not willing to look for themselves, some said...
'The FM is a liar, and she’s leading a party and a government, that are corrupt.
Who’s willing to try prove me wrong?'
'No money = no referendum.
Has this been the plan all along, the party brought into disrepute and its collapse.
Its time the other MSP/MP`s woke up and did something about Sturgeon and Murrell.'
'So now we have it in writing for all to see
The naked truth, as predicted by Stu
How salmond could squander the indy tidal wave by handing over to the murrels, defies logic
& for them to repay him in that way, suggests that there’s a lot more to this saga
Filthy game, this politics malarkey
Seems Indy is deid in my lifetime, alas'
'So that’s it – who will now trust the SNP with money for any specified use now? I can see more memberships being cancelled because of this and a s
t load less in donations now too…. That is the end of the SNP/Indyref2 for now I think.'“Ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated? Goodnight!”
And that is only a tiny selection, there is much worse. https://wingsoverscotland.com/youve-been-robbed/
So the FM is doing an impressive job eh, impressive that she has hornswoggled so many for so long, what is going
to be even more impressive is her downfall which is approaching rapidly.
I wonder how their manipulated, massaged, biased and totally deceitful polls will look after all this starts to become
widely known, might even see a reduction in the estimated numbers attending the March of the Hoodwinked.
Interesting times indeed.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-54719827
78 elderly patients were sent back to care homes with covid
3000 were sent back with no test at all
2000 elderly died in care homes (50% of all scottish deaths)
but there is ‘no statistical evidence’ that sending people back to care homes (either positive or untested) that has led to such high death rates.
how can there not be a direct link between the two?!?!? 50% of our deaths occurred in this situation!!!!
78 elderly patients were sent back to care homes with covid
3000 were sent back with no test at all
2000 elderly died in care homes (50% of all scottish deaths)
but there is ‘no statistical evidence’ that sending people back to care homes (either positive or untested) that has led to such high death rates.
how can there not be a direct link between the two?!?!? 50% of our deaths occurred in this situation!!!!
Evercross said:
Edinburger said:
So in other words, you have no evidence that party members are turning on Mrs Sturgeon. 
Once again you are being obtuse.Kenny MacAskill is a party member, and his regular blog on WoS regularly criticises Nicola Sturgeon, and he has called on several occasions for Peter Murrell to be suspended from his role as CEO.
Joanna Cherry is a party member and has made clear her feelings on the interference in her application for selection for Holyrood 2021 candidacy.
This and other evidence has been linked to time and time again in these threads and is subject to much reporting in the media. Your inability/refusal to engage with it does not mean it does not exist.
And then you wonder why I have zero respect for you Edinburger - you are an idiot, pure and simple.
I just won't know as much about this as you because I'm not obsessed with the SNP. Simples.
Roderick Spode said:
Edinburger said:
So in other words, you have no evidence that party members are turning on Mrs Sturgeon.
There are a great many voices speaking out against the Sturgeon/Murrell axis, many of whom have been documented here. When high profile party members are speaking out against the ruling junta, it's significant.hutchst said:
Roderick Spode said:
There are a great many voices speaking out against the Sturgeon/Murrell axis, many of whom have been documented here. When high profile party members are speaking out against the ruling junta, it's significant.
[Burger] You can't prove that. Their accounts could have been hacked by the Russians[/Burger]irc said:
Edinburger said:
Is the Scottish Government the only government who discharged patients into care homes?
There will be a big review into actions taken by the SG during this crisis. Inevitably, lessons will be learned and there will be examples of good practice and examples of mistakes made. This epidemic is unchartered territory. Look forward, not back.
Sometimes it's worth looking back. So we don't forget the line of thought in the SNP that viewed deaths of old people as a likely "gain" since they weren't likely to be indy voters.There will be a big review into actions taken by the SG during this crisis. Inevitably, lessons will be learned and there will be examples of good practice and examples of mistakes made. This epidemic is unchartered territory. Look forward, not back.
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18734202.angus...
By the way, as youi'll have seen today 78 patients were sent to care homes after testing positive. Not quite the numbers which were being claimed here.
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