Mansion Tax and Raid on Pensions
Discussion
foliedouce said:
poo at Paul's said:
Boris is falling into the same trap as Cameron, trying to appease and curry favour with non traditional conservative voters.
It will end in a disaster at the polls next time imo.
Not if the alternative is RLB it won’tIt will end in a disaster at the polls next time imo.
I’m surprised by the suggestion of these taxes but whilst labour is so far to the left, the Tories are still the lesser of 2 evils IMHO
Pan Pan Pan said:
foliedouce said:
poo at Paul's said:
Boris is falling into the same trap as Cameron, trying to appease and curry favour with non traditional conservative voters.
It will end in a disaster at the polls next time imo.
Not if the alternative is RLB it won’tIt will end in a disaster at the polls next time imo.
I’m surprised by the suggestion of these taxes but whilst labour is so far to the left, the Tories are still the lesser of 2 evils IMHO
PH01 said:
There's talk about removing the inheritance tax relief that farms enjoy. That'll be a huge raft of loyal voters gone.
There are only 200,000 or so farms in the country. And the IHT relief on farmland is stupid - it is why farm land price has gone up so much, as it gets bought as a tax dodge for estate planning purposes, and then leased out to tenant farmers. mike9009 said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
foliedouce said:
poo at Paul's said:
Boris is falling into the same trap as Cameron, trying to appease and curry favour with non traditional conservative voters.
It will end in a disaster at the polls next time imo.
Not if the alternative is RLB it won’tIt will end in a disaster at the polls next time imo.
I’m surprised by the suggestion of these taxes but whilst labour is so far to the left, the Tories are still the lesser of 2 evils IMHO
I would be no good as a politician, but I would be more than happy to vote for a better party than the tories to run the UK, if you could just point to one,
OzzyR1 said:
Many areas of Devon & Cornwall in particular have been shafted by people buying places they only visit on occasion, driving prices up and making it impossible for locals whose families have lived there for generations to buy a place for themselves.
A council tax bill of £10K+/year might make some folks rethink.
I’ve heard this opinion many times, but who sold the houses to the ‘in-comers’ in the first place? A council tax bill of £10K+/year might make some folks rethink.
A. ‘Locals’. Probably for a lot of money, too.
Thankyou4calling said:
snuffy said:
Correct.
This is standard practice. What will happen is there will be some minor increase in tax, but since everyone has been primed for it to be a major increase, people will breath a huge sigh of relief because it was no where near as bad as they had been led to believe.
Tell people you are going to steal all their money, then when you only steal half it of, they thank you for it.
Exactly. This is standard practice. What will happen is there will be some minor increase in tax, but since everyone has been primed for it to be a major increase, people will breath a huge sigh of relief because it was no where near as bad as they had been led to believe.
Tell people you are going to steal all their money, then when you only steal half it of, they thank you for it.
It would be surprising against a background of trying to do things to make nhs consultants with pension “contribution” problems (biz tax bills) happier by removing their 40% relief...
wisbech said:
PH01 said:
There's talk about removing the inheritance tax relief that farms enjoy. That'll be a huge raft of loyal voters gone.
There are only 200,000 or so farms in the country. And the IHT relief on farmland is stupid - it is why farm land price has gone up so much, as it gets bought as a tax dodge for estate planning purposes, and then leased out to tenant farmers. mike9009 said:
I suggest forming your own party then. Let me know your policies and I'll maybe vote for you......
No won't Mike, you know that & Dom knows it.You & the Farmers (Hedgies will be excluded from the fallout ,can't upset the paymasters lol}... aren't going anywhere but the new found Northern soul have to be appeased!
GET BREXIT DONE was not for your sort Mike , Dom was doing this for all the grey haired "We want control back to make Ingerland grate again"(You have to hand it to Dom),... this way there is no need to spout out ANY real policies, would they understand anyway, plus this, for Dom & ERG , was all about the party, Fu the country it'll heal ,hey have short memories!
We have to keep them sweet & Mike , well Mikes a "Good Boy" ,so lets shake it up a bit. I don't think loyalty is a big thing for Dom, he may not really care about you Mike, bloody cheek & all that but its the party first ...you understand...:-)
So yes house prices have to fall a tad, while we keep the interest rates as low as poss...not great for you Mike lets hope the blue chips help you out & you can rescue your pension ?...Hope so MAYTE...Meanwhile its onwards & upwards for Boris & no doubt a Knighthood & various top shelf directorships here & in USA for Sir DOM! Sit back Mike & enjoy the ride, Oh & tighten that belt, as it'll be a bit loser at the end of your unflinching Tory loyalty card Ride ...Yipppeeee! Good job for that £350 mill eh mike ...See Ya mayte
Edited by Gerradi on Sunday 9th February 13:58
Gerradi said:
mike9009 said:
I suggest forming your own party then. Let me know your policies and I'll maybe vote for you......
No won't Mike, you know that & Dom knows it.You & the Farmers (Hedgies will be excluded from the fallout ,can't upset the paymasters lol}... aren't going anywhere but the new found Northern soul have to be appeased!
GET BREXIT DONE was not for your sort Mike , Dom was doing this for all the grey haired "We want control back to make Ingerland grate again"(You have to hand it to Dom),... this way there is no need to spout out ANY real policies, would they understand anyway, plus this, for Dom & ERG , was all about the party, Fu the country it'll heal ,hey have short memories!
We have to keep them sweet & Mike , well Mikes a "Good Boy" ,so lets shake it up a bit. I don't think loyalty is a big thing for Dom, he may not really care about you Mike, bloody cheek & all that but its the party first ...you understand...:-)
So yes house prices have to fall a tad, while we keep the interest rates as low as poss...not great for you Mike lets hope the blue chips help you out & you can rescue your pension ?...Hope so MAYTE...Meanwhile its onwards & upwards for Boris & no doubt a Knighthood & various top shelf directorships here & in USA for Sir DOM! Sit back Mike & enjoy the ride, Oh & tighten that belt, as it'll be a bit loser at the end of your unflinching Tory loyalty card Ride ...Yipppeeee! Good job for that £350 mill eh mike ...See Ya mayte
Edited by Gerradi on Sunday 9th February 13:58
Pan Pan Pan said:
I will just be waiting for when the EU collapses when all the basket case economies either ask for even more handouts (which cannot be paid), or decide they don't like playing the EU game any more, when it starts costing `them' money to be members. Interesting times indeed lay ahead.
Piha said:
PHuzzy said:
nikaiyo2 said:
Piha said:
After a decade of tory financial mismanagement is it any surprise that the current tory government would introduce money generating measures to fund it's empty promises.
Anyone that voted for this shambolic lying government has given them the green light to do whatever they choose.
Ahh yes, the torys ruined the economy. The Labour government from 1997-2010 managed the economy so well all was rosy when the torys got in. The country was awash with cash.Anyone that voted for this shambolic lying government has given them the green light to do whatever they choose.
Die hard Remain/Labour voter who thinks everything not Labour/remain is the worst thing to ever happen and that they're all the fault of everyone but Labour/remain
MG CHRIS said:
The only reason boris and the tories got their majority was the borrowed votes by long standing labour members and people leaving labour in droves if in the next 5 years the wealthy continue to grow while those same loaned voters don't feel any benefit they wont vote tory again and we be back with a hung government or worse a labour one.
Boris will have to be seen to make those that leant their vote to them have made a worth while difference in the next 5 years all bets are of if that doesn't happen. So yes the very wealthy will have to pay more in some way or at least look like they are paying more.
Exactly so, and imo the higher tax payer may take the pragmatic pov that although their tax bill MAYBoris will have to be seen to make those that leant their vote to them have made a worth while difference in the next 5 years all bets are of if that doesn't happen. So yes the very wealthy will have to pay more in some way or at least look like they are paying more.
rise under the Conservative Government they will be mindful of the possible implosion under Labour. Better to swallow a bitter pill than a box full of toxins.
crankedup said:
Exactly so, and imo the higher tax payer may take the pragmatic pov that although their tax bill MAY
rise under the Conservative Government they will be mindful of the possible implosion under Labour. Better to swallow a bitter pill than a box full of toxins.
How magnanimous of you to volunteer others to take the hit for the team.rise under the Conservative Government they will be mindful of the possible implosion under Labour. Better to swallow a bitter pill than a box full of toxins.
Edited by Stay in Bed Instead on Sunday 9th February 15:20
crankedup said:
MG CHRIS said:
The only reason boris and the tories got their majority was the borrowed votes by long standing labour members and people leaving labour in droves if in the next 5 years the wealthy continue to grow while those same loaned voters don't feel any benefit they wont vote tory again and we be back with a hung government or worse a labour one.
Boris will have to be seen to make those that leant their vote to them have made a worth while difference in the next 5 years all bets are of if that doesn't happen. So yes the very wealthy will have to pay more in some way or at least look like they are paying more.
Exactly so, and imo the higher tax payer may take the pragmatic pov that although their tax bill MAYBoris will have to be seen to make those that leant their vote to them have made a worth while difference in the next 5 years all bets are of if that doesn't happen. So yes the very wealthy will have to pay more in some way or at least look like they are paying more.
rise under the Conservative Government they will be mindful of the possible implosion under Labour. Better to swallow a bitter pill than a box full of toxins.
Stay in Bed Instead said:
crankedup said:
Exactly so, and imo the higher tax payer may take the pragmatic pov that although their tax bill MAY
rise under the Conservative Government they will be mindful of the possible implosion under Labour. Better to swallow a bitter pill than a box full of toxins.
How magnanimous of you to volunteer others to take the hit for the team.rise under the Conservative Government they will be mindful of the possible implosion under Labour. Better to swallow a bitter pill than a box full of toxins.
Edited by Stay in Bed Instead on Sunday 9th February 15:20
Countdown said:
Was it Labour that caused the Global Financial Crisis?
No, they were the ones that removed all of our ability to withstand it; instead of fixing the roof when the sun was shining they pissed the money away on political ideology & were amazed they got wet when it rained. You've been told this before.Agammemnon said:
Countdown said:
Was it Labour that caused the Global Financial Crisis?
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