Is the UK overpopulated ?
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It's badly populated.
Why every shabby terrace of houses becomes a vital piece of cultural heritage I have no idea. Huge swathes of London and other big cities are full of awful houses on 2 or 3 stories, converted to cramped bedsits with no parking or space outside. If they were replaced with purpose built apartments of even double the height you could halve the footprint, freeing up acres of extra land for parking, infrastructure and outdoor space while having the same number of people better accommodated, and not building on a single green field or school playground. If you went further up you could really save some land.
Why every shabby terrace of houses becomes a vital piece of cultural heritage I have no idea. Huge swathes of London and other big cities are full of awful houses on 2 or 3 stories, converted to cramped bedsits with no parking or space outside. If they were replaced with purpose built apartments of even double the height you could halve the footprint, freeing up acres of extra land for parking, infrastructure and outdoor space while having the same number of people better accommodated, and not building on a single green field or school playground. If you went further up you could really save some land.
untakenname said:
London is overpopulated, it would be easy to reduce it by a million or so by reducing the numbers of subsidised who live in London but there doesn't yet seem to be the political will to do it.
You mean get rid of all the poor people who serve your coffee in the morning or clean your office block when you've gone home? Randy Winkman said:
Anyone else look out of the window as their flight descends for landing and think that pretty much everything you see is fields? I do and I live in south east England.
I always think exactly the same, whether on final approach into Birmingham / East Midlands / Manchester / Gatwick / Stansted.
Telford is a pretty big sort-of-urban area, but after a 30 minute drive and a 15 minute walk I can at the top of The Long Mynd where there is no sign of civilisation.
cherryowen said:
I always think exactly the same, whether on final approach into Birmingham / East Midlands / Manchester / Gatwick / Stansted.
Telford is a pretty big sort-of-urban area, but after a 30 minute drive and a 15 minute walk I can at the top of The Long Mynd where there is no sign of civilisation.
Lots of made of London, but its actually one of the most green cities isn't it? Most parks. Not sure how common Richmond Parks are in other world cities (and I mean that in every sense, deer and topography, not just a big green flatland)
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.3145448,0.003612...
Believe it or not, that is well inside the M25 and you're only a mile or so from a London bus route!
okgo said:
To be honest, its even the same with Heathrow, obviously yes, London a massive global city is one way, but the other way it gets green pretty quick.
Lots of made of London, but its actually one of the most green cities isn't it? Most parks. Not sure how common Richmond Parks are in other world cities (and I mean that in every sense, deer and topography, not just a big green flatland)
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.3145448,0.003612...
Believe it or not, that is well inside the M25 and you're only a mile or so from a London bus route!
I recognised that road rightaway as used to cycle up there most weekends.Lots of made of London, but its actually one of the most green cities isn't it? Most parks. Not sure how common Richmond Parks are in other world cities (and I mean that in every sense, deer and topography, not just a big green flatland)
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.3145448,0.003612...
Believe it or not, that is well inside the M25 and you're only a mile or so from a London bus route!
Condi said:
untakenname said:
London is overpopulated, it would be easy to reduce it by a million or so by reducing the numbers of subsidised who live in London but there doesn't yet seem to be the political will to do it.
You mean get rid of all the poor people who serve your coffee in the morning or clean your office block when you've gone home? And not being able to get a triple soya skinny latte quite as readily might start to have a natural impact on house prices where they're pinched....
rdjohn said:
XJSJohn said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_an...
32nd most densely populated by people / sqm.
As you say, it all depends on the infrastructure, transport and services. I lived in Singapore (number 2 on the list) for many years and that never felt that overpopulated, never had to queue much for a tube or bus, even in rush hour, traffic jams didnt seem to happen, and shops and malls never felt much more crowded than UK equivalents on a weekend.
Edit, and by City, no UK city even makes this list.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_po...
Surprised how many French cities are though ...
Interesting!32nd most densely populated by people / sqm.
As you say, it all depends on the infrastructure, transport and services. I lived in Singapore (number 2 on the list) for many years and that never felt that overpopulated, never had to queue much for a tube or bus, even in rush hour, traffic jams didnt seem to happen, and shops and malls never felt much more crowded than UK equivalents on a weekend.
Edit, and by City, no UK city even makes this list.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_po...
Surprised how many French cities are though ...
Edited by XJSJohn on Tuesday 11th February 15:16
Something I find surprising is that while Indonesia lies 60th in countries, Jakarta is not listed in cities. That is the place that instantly comes to mind for being overpopulated. At 3am you can see crowds of people walking along the roadside or waiting for their motorbike taxi to get to work for 6am. Manila is busy, but it does not seem as busy as Jakarta.
Caddyshack said:
The world is over populated. Fix that and you fix the environment too.
Phew, that was easy!
I can't claim all the credit but world population growth is falling rapidly and will quite possibly become negative this century. Population will peak and our grandchildren will be facing on a global scale what Europe and Japan are facing now. An aging population.
JuanCarlosFandango said:
Phew, that was easy!
I can't claim all the credit but world population growth is falling rapidly and will quite possibly become negative this century. Population will peak and our grandchildren will be facing on a global scale what Europe and Japan are facing now. An aging population.
That has the potential for making the IMF (I think) charts on GDP growth look accurate I can't claim all the credit but world population growth is falling rapidly and will quite possibly become negative this century. Population will peak and our grandchildren will be facing on a global scale what Europe and Japan are facing now. An aging population.
I suspect it will peak....nature has a way of balancing things out eventually.
gazza285 said:
untakenname said:
London is overpopulated, it would be easy to reduce it by a million or so by reducing the numbers of subsidised who live in London but there doesn't yet seem to be the political will to do it.
I can think of 650 subsidised people that don't contribute a great deal.
Condi said:
untakenname said:
London is overpopulated, it would be easy to reduce it by a million or so by reducing the numbers of subsidised who live in London but there doesn't yet seem to be the political will to do it.
You mean get rid of all the poor people who serve your coffee in the morning or clean your office block when you've gone home? No reason they can't be "offshored" to other cheaper parts of the country.
Heck they're offshoring many projects to cheaper places like Asia.
You can't remove useful people like Baristas and cleaners from where they work but you can remove the "non jobs" to different regions.
JuanCarlosFandango said:
Phew, that was easy!
I can't claim all the credit but world population growth is falling rapidly and will quite possibly become negative this century. Population will peak and our grandchildren will be facing on a global scale what Europe and Japan are facing now. An aging population.
That is quite a large assumption extrapolation on that graph I can't claim all the credit but world population growth is falling rapidly and will quite possibly become negative this century. Population will peak and our grandchildren will be facing on a global scale what Europe and Japan are facing now. An aging population.
The graph shows growth rate, so any line on the positive axis is still a growing global population.
It would take a significant drop of the curve in to the negative axis before any noticeable "improvement" in numbers or any visible effect on people's living.
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