Why do cyclists try to undertake left turning trucks ?

[cicada273]

Excuse the Mail link: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7999459/T...

Poor fellow !

[markyb_lcy]

Who do all kinds of stupid people do all kinds of stupid things?

Well, because they're stupid!

[Robb F]

While cyclists going up the left is a big problem in a lot of places, looks like he was purely the victim in this case

[Gojira]

Robb F said:

While cyclists going up the left is a big problem in a lot of places, looks like he was purely the victim in this case

Yep, I really don't see how that's the cyclists fault - the van driver seemed to just forget he'd passed the cyclist!

Lucky the cyclist is OK, apparently, that could have been all over...

[markyb_lcy]

Robb F said:

While cyclists going up the left is a big problem in a lot of places, looks like he was purely the victim in this case

They made the mistake of assuming the driver would check their mirror. It's unfortunate and yes, it's probably the fault of the truck driver, but being right isn't much use when you're injured/dead.

Never assume (as a cyclist) that a driver is going to make all the required checks periodically / before turning. Overtaking on the inside on the approach to a left turn is always somewhat of a risk.

A few more errors from the driver too ... late signal, approach speed too high, and turns into the left-hander on the wrong side of the road. Slaps of a last minute turn decision to me.

[boyse7en]

How was this a cyclist overtaking on the left? The van had just passed him and then turned straight across in front of him!
What was the guy on the bike supposed to do? Bunnyhop the van?

[markyb_lcy]

boyse7en said:

How was this a cyclist overtaking on the left? The van had just passed him and then turned straight across in front of him!
What was the guy on the bike supposed to do? Bunnyhop the van?

The cyclist is going faster than the truck approaching the left turn. If he's assuming the van is continuing forward, it's the beginning of an overtake.

If they weren't intending to overtake, they should stay back far enough from the truck to see the turn signals (which as I said, are a bit late).

[Killboy]

Looks like that driver should take a mandatory break from driving for a while.

[Shakermaker]

markyb_lcy said:

boyse7en said:

How was this a cyclist overtaking on the left? The van had just passed him and then turned straight across in front of him!
What was the guy on the bike supposed to do? Bunnyhop the van?

The cyclist is going faster than the truck approaching the left turn. If he's assuming the van is continuing forward, it's the beginning of an overtake.

If they weren't intending to overtake, they should stay back far enough from the truck to see the turn signals (which as I said, are a bit late).

Right at the start of the video it looks as if the lorry has just overtaken him and then slows down to take the turn, but it doesn't seem to show any more than that to gve us the full situation.

[Your Dad]

Anyone that thinks the cyclist was trying to undertake the Tesco van should hand their driving license in.

Twitter link for longer version of the vid that removes the victim blaming - https://twitter.com/Broadsword999/status/122685380...

Edited by Your Dad on Thursday 13th February 15:40

[okgo]

cicada273 said:

Excuse the Mail link: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7999459/T...

Poor fellow !

You really are a dick for this thread title.

[Zirconia]

Saw this the other day, van driver is a tool.

[Randy Winkman]

Cyclist has absolutely no time at all to respond the late indicator - presumably the van driver was lost.

I cant believe anyone would blame the cyclist for that. Thread title is dumb.

[markyb_lcy]

Your Dad said:

Anyone that thinks the cyclist was trying to undertake the Tesco van should hand their driving license in.

Twitter link for longer version of the vid that removes the victim blaming - https://twitter.com/Broadsword999/status/122685380...

Edited by Your Dad on Thursday 13th February 15:40

If that was aimed at me I just want to draw your attention to a previous post where I said it was the drivers fault.

I still think the cyclist made a mistake ... if they were sufficiently behind the truck (which they should be if not overtaking), they would have seen the late signal and had time to act.

Also, "undertaking" is not a thing. It's "overtaking on the inside".

[okgo]

markyb_lcy said:

If that was aimed at me I just want to draw your attention to a previous post where I said it was the drivers fault.

I still think the cyclist made a mistake ... if they were sufficiently behind the truck (which they should be if not overtaking), they would have seen the late signal and had time to act.

Also, "undertaking" is not a thing. It's "overtaking on the inside".

The van overtakes him then slows down, basically then matching the bikes pace then turns across him. There's NOTHING you can do with a total fking moron like that at the wheel. The indication is beyond late, its pointless.

[Johnnytheboy]

Randy Winkman said:

Cyclist has absolutely no time at all to respond the late indicator - presumably the van driver was lost.

I cant believe anyone would blame the cyclist for that. Thread title is dumb.

Agree 100%, that cyclist was entirely blameless for that, the van just indicated and went, I can't imagine the cyclist even had time to brake.

[Your Dad]

markyb_lcy said:

Your Dad said:

Anyone that thinks the cyclist was trying to undertake the Tesco van should hand their driving license in.

Twitter link for longer version of the vid that removes the victim blaming - https://twitter.com/Broadsword999/status/122685380...

Edited by Your Dad on Thursday 13th February 15:40

If that was aimed at me I just want to draw your attention to a previous post where I said it was the drivers fault.

I still think the cyclist made a mistake ... if they were sufficiently behind the truck (which they should be if not overtaking), they would have seen the late signal and had time to act.

Also, "undertaking" is not a thing. It's "overtaking on the inside".

Wasn't aimed at you, in fact I'd not even read your comment so put the handbag down Princess.

Cyclist was at no time sufficiently behind the truck to react, check the link I posted and you'll see they had <2 seconds.

[Shakermaker]

markyb_lcy said:

Your Dad said:

Anyone that thinks the cyclist was trying to undertake the Tesco van should hand their driving license in.

Twitter link for longer version of the vid that removes the victim blaming - https://twitter.com/Broadsword999/status/122685380...

Edited by Your Dad on Thursday 13th February 15:40

If that was aimed at me I just want to draw your attention to a previous post where I said it was the drivers fault.

I still think the cyclist made a mistake ... if they were sufficiently behind the truck (which they should be if not overtaking), they would have seen the late signal and had time to act.

Also, "undertaking" is not a thing. It's "overtaking on the inside".

I don't think you've seen the longer video - how can he be further back from a truck that's just gone past him?

[markyb_lcy]

Your Dad said:

Wasn't aimed at you, in fact I'd not even read your comment so put the handbag down Princess.

Bit unnecessary.

[markyb_lcy]

Shakermaker said:

I don't think you've seen the longer video - how can he be further back from a truck that's just gone past him?

Yea, fair enough ... the longer video does put a bit more perspective on it!