Why the Boris and Cummings bbc hate?
Discussion
Fundoreen said:
The 2 show all the signs of seeking revenge for past slights.
Boris due to the BBC being full of people that probably looked down on his buffonery over the years.
Cummings probably also made to feel inferior in the company of the highbrow BBC upper echelons.
Maybe many applications for a job ignored.
It could even be something like revenge for the mess they have made of Doctor Who.
The sort of show you imagine a young cummings being a fan of. Probably made a life size dalek and everything.
Along with Trump they certainly have a pied piper appeal.
Not suggesting their vast amount of followers are a load of rats or anything lol.
Boris don’t like being found out with difficult questions, you know, what colour jacket are you wearing today, and shown to be a closet fridge fancier and Cummings is a wrecking ball. Love to know what Bozza has promised Cummings and who is yanking their strings. Murdoch got a finger in the pie?Boris due to the BBC being full of people that probably looked down on his buffonery over the years.
Cummings probably also made to feel inferior in the company of the highbrow BBC upper echelons.
Maybe many applications for a job ignored.
It could even be something like revenge for the mess they have made of Doctor Who.
The sort of show you imagine a young cummings being a fan of. Probably made a life size dalek and everything.
Along with Trump they certainly have a pied piper appeal.
Not suggesting their vast amount of followers are a load of rats or anything lol.
Perhaps they want a RT or Press TV , Cummings favours Fox. Political interference basically.
Careful with Bozza though, he could send the lads around.
Porsche guy said:
chrispmartha said:
Yes that’s all the BBC produce isn’t it.
Maybe take your blinkers off and have a watch or listen of some of the excellent stuff they do produce.
BBC 1 and BBC 2, plus 1 radio station, it should be reduced to that for a much smaller licence fee and the rest subscription.Maybe take your blinkers off and have a watch or listen of some of the excellent stuff they do produce.
Why should pensioners/others pay for the world service et al.
Things that aren’t commercially viable but provide an essential public service
You can bin off R1 and 6 music and all the other fluff
But public service/high quality unbiased news broadcasts are where it should be focused
Earthdweller said:
Porsche guy said:
chrispmartha said:
Yes that’s all the BBC produce isn’t it.
Maybe take your blinkers off and have a watch or listen of some of the excellent stuff they do produce.
BBC 1 and BBC 2, plus 1 radio station, it should be reduced to that for a much smaller licence fee and the rest subscription.Maybe take your blinkers off and have a watch or listen of some of the excellent stuff they do produce.
Why should pensioners/others pay for the world service et al.
Things that aren’t commercially viable but provide an essential public service
You can bin off R1 and 6 music and all the other fluff
But public service/high quality unbiased news broadcasts are where it should be focused
Because they're pretending to be conservatives. We know they're not, because they're Conservatives, but it's a good act.
I think it's a sort of mating ritual. They'll have a running spat for a few years and then the government will find their supporters in there and move them up. By the end of the decade there will be legitimate reasons to say the BBC has a more right wing bias, instead of just the current silly counter attack to say they're anti Labour because they reported stuff that Corbyn and Abbot actually said.
I think it's a sort of mating ritual. They'll have a running spat for a few years and then the government will find their supporters in there and move them up. By the end of the decade there will be legitimate reasons to say the BBC has a more right wing bias, instead of just the current silly counter attack to say they're anti Labour because they reported stuff that Corbyn and Abbot actually said.
chrispmartha said:
Yes that’s all the BBC produce isn’t it.
Maybe take your blinkers off and have a watch or listen of some of the excellent stuff they do produce.
Bored and interest piqued...Maybe take your blinkers off and have a watch or listen of some of the excellent stuff they do produce.
I don't watch a huge amount of TV, and not very much of it is BBC these days as I always have the impression that it's a load of repeats and/or not worth the time.
I get Monday's aren't exactly "prime", but...
| BBC1 | BBC2 | BBC4 |
| Breakfast | Wanted down under revisited | Beyond 100 days |
| Animal Park | Flog it | Francescos Mediterranean voyage |
| Homes under the hammer | Best home cook | New Zealand Earths Mythical islands (repeat) |
| Wanted down under revisited | This week in parliament | 80s with dominic sandbrook |
| Defenders uk | News | Storyville |
| Bargain hunt | Victoria Derbyshire | Art of Germany |
| News | News | Elizabeth 1s child actors |
| Doctors | Walks of life | Rams principles of good design |
| Shakespeare and Hathaway | Super cute animals | New Zealand Earths Mythical islands (repeat of earlier) |
| Escape to the country | Flog it | |
| Farmers country showdown | Osmans house of games | |
| Antiques road trip | Great Asian railway journeys | |
| Pointless | Twinstitute | |
| News | Mastermind | |
| One show | Only connect | |
| Inside out London | University challenge | |
| Eastenders | Confronting holocaust denial | |
| Panorama | Inside no9 | |
| Mrs Browns boys | Newsnight | |
| News | Weather | |
| This country | Hospital | |
| Don’t scream | Farmers country showdown | |
| Graham Norton (repeat) | Countryfile (repeat) | |
| Weather | Secrets of the museum | |
| News |
Hasn't done much to dispel my general belief...
Loads of news and weather. Not convinced the BBC raises the bar here unduly, though doesn't lower it either. Local news may be a useful service, but if my local news is anything to go by I'm not really convinced.
Plenty of repeats.
A load of stuff that seems to be more following a "standard" than setting one.
There's some stuff in there that I don't mind watching now and then, but it all has equivalents on commercial TV and if neither existed life would carry on with other background noise.
Radio? I'm at least 30yrs too old for Radio 1, and I suspect most people 30yrs younger than me Spotify rather than R1.
I think I've passed through the other side of Radio 2. I just find most of it tedious (and Steve Wright? Really? I can't work out whether repeating Wanted Down Under Revisited on the same day - repeats of repeats is likely setting a standard of some sort - is better or worse than repeating SW 30yrs on). There are a few exceptions but I only listen if I'm in the car typically. And even then only if the OH's awake
I doubt I'll live to be old enough to fall into the R3 demographic.
R4? If I press the wrong button on the radio and can't find the right one.
My kids rate a few things on CBBC (I think), but at 7 my eldest is already preferring YouTube and other sources.
The license fee isn't high enough up anyone's agenda at the moment, but it's an anachronism and the BBC is not changing with the times readily enough - it can't as it appears institutionally incapable.
If I were in charge, especially as it looks like Boris will get 2 terms, I'd leave it alone until it's latest charter comes due. Then bin it off. The genuinely good stuff with an audience will survive and continue to set a standard...the rest doesn't deserve to survive.
98elise said:
What's good about it? Daytime TV filled with cheap quiz/antique/house buying shows. Soaps every night, and a celeb show with a panel of judges for prime time Saturday night.
If it's was good quality service people would pay for it. That's how a free market should work.
Why does the BBC need to operate in a free market though?If it's was good quality service people would pay for it. That's how a free market should work.
I’m as capitalist as they come, but there’s still a time and a place for public service that’s not operated only for profitable consumption.
We have NPR (National Public Radio) as well here in the states. It is similar to the BBC, government funding. It tends to lean left here as well. we also have Public Broadcast TV that is scattered throughout the states as independents of a larger Government funded network.
That said, it does not appear to be as interwoven into the public psyche as much as the BBC is for you.
That said, it does not appear to be as interwoven into the public psyche as much as the BBC is for you.
Edited by Jimbeaux on Tuesday 18th February 01:05
Big-Bo-Beep said:
including the bbc funding in council tax or income tax is a good idea, we happily pay national insurance,
a compulsory tax no-one voted for and a tax no-one can opt out of.
id rather pay the bbc £12 a month for all their services than sky or netflix
No you’d rather the rest of us pay for something you like.a compulsory tax no-one voted for and a tax no-one can opt out of.
id rather pay the bbc £12 a month for all their services than sky or netflix
I don’t like BBC output. I watched to gear last night first bbc prog I’ve watched in years didn’t enjoy it would live without it easily.
Why should I be taxed so you can watch something. If it’s so good you can pay your 12 and everybody else will too.
Their choice.this sick mind set, it’s like a mental illness “ I like something so you must be forced to pay”
Pesty said:
Big-Bo-Beep said:
including the bbc funding in council tax or income tax is a good idea, we happily pay national insurance,
a compulsory tax no-one voted for and a tax no-one can opt out of.
id rather pay the bbc £12 a month for all their services than sky or netflix
No you’d rather the rest of us pay for something you like.a compulsory tax no-one voted for and a tax no-one can opt out of.
id rather pay the bbc £12 a month for all their services than sky or netflix
I don’t like BBC output. I watched to gear last night first bbc prog I’ve watched in years didn’t enjoy it would live without it easily.
Why should I be taxed so you can watch something. If it’s so good you can pay your 12 and everybody else will too.
Their choice.this sick mind set, it’s like a mental illness “ I like something so you must be forced to pay”
oyster said:
Why does the BBC need to operate in a free market though?
I’m as capitalist as they come, but there’s still a time and a place for public service that’s not operated only for profitable consumption.
Because we live in a free market and it's a non-essential service.I’m as capitalist as they come, but there’s still a time and a place for public service that’s not operated only for profitable consumption.
Look at the list from last night and highlight the "public service" content in there, readily differentiated from content available elsewhere....
Taxpayer's money should be used for essential services that are more efficiently provided centrally. And that should be it. The BBC sits outside both Venn circles
oyster said:
98elise said:
What's good about it? Daytime TV filled with cheap quiz/antique/house buying shows. Soaps every night, and a celeb show with a panel of judges for prime time Saturday night.
If it's was good quality service people would pay for it. That's how a free market should work.
Why does the BBC need to operate in a free market though?If it's was good quality service people would pay for it. That's how a free market should work.
I’m as capitalist as they come, but there’s still a time and a place for public service that’s not operated only for profitable consumption.
I have not watched live broadcast TV for around 4 years now , and have not missed it at all. As I recall it, it seemed to me that the BBC have the attitude that they will broadcast what they think they should, not what the viewers want.
I just didn't watch it. My TV today is streamed from Prime, Youtube, and free access to a netflix account.
Radio is Gold when I can get it , and classic FM , when I can be bothered. BBC radio is so preachy it's absurd , never been relevant since the loss of Wogan.
I don't think I'm alone in my rejection of the BBC. My daughter moved house , mid last year, and was celebrated as you do by a BBQ. On the occasion daughter mentioned that she had just had to pay the License fee, complaining that the BBC was never watched in her home , that was echoed by every one else, only one person saying they could recall a BBC prog that they watched, and all of them saying they would not pay for the license if it was by choice , only around 2 dozen people, but perhaps an interesting snapshot.
As for the BBC's future, like most it seems, I think that being given a criminal record and being dragged through the courts for watching a TV prog when not having a "license" is pathetically absurd.
My own angle on the matter is that the World service, and a couple of nationwide radio stations should be funded from taxation . The public service broadcasting requirement could be met with 2 or 3 channels, , funded by adverts. The rest, subscriptions, if it is good people will pay for it.
I just didn't watch it. My TV today is streamed from Prime, Youtube, and free access to a netflix account.
Radio is Gold when I can get it , and classic FM , when I can be bothered. BBC radio is so preachy it's absurd , never been relevant since the loss of Wogan.
I don't think I'm alone in my rejection of the BBC. My daughter moved house , mid last year, and was celebrated as you do by a BBQ. On the occasion daughter mentioned that she had just had to pay the License fee, complaining that the BBC was never watched in her home , that was echoed by every one else, only one person saying they could recall a BBC prog that they watched, and all of them saying they would not pay for the license if it was by choice , only around 2 dozen people, but perhaps an interesting snapshot.
As for the BBC's future, like most it seems, I think that being given a criminal record and being dragged through the courts for watching a TV prog when not having a "license" is pathetically absurd.
My own angle on the matter is that the World service, and a couple of nationwide radio stations should be funded from taxation . The public service broadcasting requirement could be met with 2 or 3 channels, , funded by adverts. The rest, subscriptions, if it is good people will pay for it.
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