No meat on expenses - forced vegetarianism?

No meat on expenses - forced vegetarianism?

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abzmike

8,363 posts

106 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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21TonyK said:
If they voted for it then so be it. No big deal, its only meals on expenses. Its irritating that some people think its their responsibility to save everyone else from themselves but that's about it.
Say I was a member of staff that didn't vote to support this, and I am on a work trip for 10 days, and can only claim vegetarian meals on expenses? Sod that.

captain_cynic

11,985 posts

95 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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21TonyK said:
If they voted for it then so be it. No big deal, its only meals on expenses.
This.

Last time I checked being reimbursed for a meal isn't a human right and every company I've worked for has had rules regarding reimbursement.

Also, if you have an issue with company policy, you have options to redress said issues and not the least of those options is resigning and working at a different company.

Absolutely no one is being forced to do anything, contrary to the thread title.

However the professionally offended here just want to be offended by a company they don't work for.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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WilliamWoollard said:
janesmith1950 said:
The headmistress teacher at my son's school has been telling the kids that being vegetarian is healthier than meat eating. Not amused.
Sexist!
No, she's definitely not the sexiest.

21TonyK

11,519 posts

209 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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abzmike said:
21TonyK said:
If they voted for it then so be it. No big deal, its only meals on expenses. Its irritating that some people think its their responsibility to save everyone else from themselves but that's about it.
Say I was a member of staff that didn't vote to support this, and I am on a work trip for 10 days, and can only claim vegetarian meals on expenses? Sod that.
Any company (or employees) stupid enough to vote for it would be easily swayed if you claimed the lack of bacon was causing you stress and anxiety. You'd get an exemption to ensure your mental well being in an instant.


oyster

12,594 posts

248 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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abzmike said:
21TonyK said:
If they voted for it then so be it. No big deal, its only meals on expenses. Its irritating that some people think its their responsibility to save everyone else from themselves but that's about it.
Say I was a member of staff that didn't vote to support this, and I am on a work trip for 10 days, and can only claim vegetarian meals on expenses? Sod that.
I'd be amazed that anyone in that firm will be on a work trip for 10 days. I suspect it's only the odd lunch that gets claimed for. Hardly a chore to select a cheese sandwich is it.

And no-one's being forced to eat vegetarian - they can eat meat, they just won't be able to claim for it.

PorkInsider

Original Poster:

5,888 posts

141 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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captain_cynic said:
21TonyK said:
If they voted for it then so be it. No big deal, its only meals on expenses.
This.

Last time I checked being reimbursed for a meal isn't a human right and every company I've worked for has had rules regarding reimbursement.

Also, if you have an issue with company policy, you have options to redress said issues and not the least of those options is resigning and working at a different company.

Absolutely no one is being forced to do anything, contrary to the thread title.

However the professionally offended here just want to be offended by a company they don't work for.
There's no 'professionally offended' about it.

It's a discussion we're having, not a bloody EDL march!

I disagree regarding it not being an issue because of having the option to resign.

You could apply that to absolutely any whimsical policy that an employer may dream up, but it wouldn't make those fair and right, either.

The point is, this policy isn't like 'no alcohol on expenses' nor is it even like a 'no meat on expenses because there's a proven link to bowel cancer and we're making a concerted effort to encourage better health' policy.

Johnniem

2,672 posts

223 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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Has anyone covered the 'entertainment' question yet? If I were vegetarian and was taking a client out to lunch (no matter what the cost) and he ordered a bacon sandwich or a fillet steak, would I be expected to cover that cost out of my wages (or have I not read the article fully?).

JM

bad company

18,562 posts

266 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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It can’t be difficult to get a receipt for lunch or whatever which doesn’t itemise what was ordered / eaten.

KarlMac

4,480 posts

141 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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is head of the firm's values team

Get in the fking sea with your bullst non-job.

21TonyK

11,519 posts

209 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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KarlMac said:
is head of the firm's values team

Get in the fking sea with your bullst non-job.
Straight to the point I suppose laugh

amusingduck

9,396 posts

136 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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21TonyK said:
KarlMac said:
is head of the firm's values team

Get in the fking sea with your bullst non-job.
Straight to the point I suppose laugh
laughlaugh

Jinx

11,389 posts

260 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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bad company said:
It can’t be difficult to get a receipt for lunch or whatever which doesn’t itemise what was ordered / eaten.
Though might have a problem claiming back a meal from Zelman Meats, Meat People, Meatliquor or Meatmission hehe

Bussolini

11,574 posts

85 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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bad company said:
It can’t be difficult to get a receipt for lunch or whatever which doesn’t itemise what was ordered / eaten.
If I don't have an itemized receipt, I don't get my expenses.

Dr Doofenshmirtz

15,222 posts

200 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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'Development surveyor Kate Marfleet, 28, is head of the firm's values team and persuaded staff to go vegetarian last year, to reduce its environmental impact. The idea was put to an internal vote and passed, with a few dissenters.'

I can just imagine the emails and company meetings now, with normal people like you and me just saying 'yes whatever' just for an easy life.

Mrr T

12,221 posts

265 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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Zetec-S said:
In the article WeWork said:
WeWork cited research suggesting going vegetarian was "one of the biggest things an individual can do to reduce their personal environmental impact" and estimated its change would save 16.6 million gallons of water, 445.1 million pounds of CO2 emissions and 15,507,103 animals over five years.
That's a very specific number, I suspect plucked from someone's arse as a way of making them feel good about themselves. And it won't "save" 15m animals. They are bred to meet demand, if demand drops then suppliers will breed fewer.
Can not see the article but WeWorks last accounts show 32 employees. Based on that it seems the employees where reclaiming for each of them eating 265 animals a day. No wonder they made the change.

amusingduck

9,396 posts

136 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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Bussolini said:
bad company said:
It can’t be difficult to get a receipt for lunch or whatever which doesn’t itemise what was ordered / eaten.
If I don't have an itemized receipt, I don't get my expenses.
You don't 'get' your expenses - are you paying out of your own pocket and reclaiming afterwards?

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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KarlMac said:
is head of the firm's values team

Get in the fking sea with your bullst non-job.
Isn't she employed as a surveyor of some kind, with this values bit as an extra bit of work?

Still, makes me laugh. Values. Like Stewart Lee's sketch about the values of the Carphone Warehouse. I hope this caring approach applies to every transaction and every interaction they make on every project and isn't some wafer-thin veneer of bullst.

They say they want to treat people like adults. Then why propose taking away the choice to make their own decisions?

bad company

18,562 posts

266 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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Bussolini said:
bad company said:
It can’t be difficult to get a receipt for lunch or whatever which doesn’t itemise what was ordered / eaten.
If I don't have an itemized receipt, I don't get my expenses.
Itemised by exactly what you ate?

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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KarlMac said:
is head of the firm's values team

Get in the fking sea with your bullst non-job.
A 'values team'? What is this, fking W1A?

pidsy

7,989 posts

157 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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Mrr T said:
Can not see the article but WeWorks last accounts show 32 employees. Based on that it seems the employees where reclaiming for each of them eating 265 animals a day. No wonder they made the change.
Made me laugh much more than it should have.

beer