No meat on expenses - forced vegetarianism?
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It backfires eventually.
We (large company) put a load of pressure on people running up large bar bills for social events and drinks while travelling.
There was a load of whinging, but what happened is that social events stopped dead. People stopped travelling by finding excuses not to.
Eventually the powers that be realised the unintended consequences of their actions and reversed the decision.
They may be fine as it sounds like a small company and everyone agrees with the decision. But per above, most receipts don't actually list the precise contents of the meal. E.g. "sandwich" rather than "steak sandwich".
We (large company) put a load of pressure on people running up large bar bills for social events and drinks while travelling.
There was a load of whinging, but what happened is that social events stopped dead. People stopped travelling by finding excuses not to.
Eventually the powers that be realised the unintended consequences of their actions and reversed the decision.
They may be fine as it sounds like a small company and everyone agrees with the decision. But per above, most receipts don't actually list the precise contents of the meal. E.g. "sandwich" rather than "steak sandwich".
amusingduck said:
Bussolini said:
bad company said:
It can’t be difficult to get a receipt for lunch or whatever which doesn’t itemise what was ordered / eaten.
If I don't have an itemized receipt, I don't get my expenses.If I eat in a hotel the receipt just says Breakfast or Dinner rather than saying what I had, and even on an itemized restaurant bill there's loads of things that could be either meat or vegetarian. Who's to say my lasagne was beef rather than vegetarian? Other than anyone who knows me of course
Edited by RizzoTheRat on Tuesday 18th February 11:49
If you joined a company with this policy and the conditions were laid out before you, then I would say fair enough.
But if you were already in employment and this was imposed on you, then that's another thing.
Personally, I would consider taking it to an industrial tribunal. It is arguably constructive dismissal - at the least discriminatory.
But if you were already in employment and this was imposed on you, then that's another thing.
Personally, I would consider taking it to an industrial tribunal. It is arguably constructive dismissal - at the least discriminatory.
RizzoTheRat said:
amusingduck said:
Bussolini said:
bad company said:
It can’t be difficult to get a receipt for lunch or whatever which doesn’t itemise what was ordered / eaten.
If I don't have an itemized receipt, I don't get my expenses.
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abzmike said:
21TonyK said:
If they voted for it then so be it. No big deal, its only meals on expenses. Its irritating that some people think its their responsibility to save everyone else from themselves but that's about it.
Say I was a member of staff that didn't vote to support this, and I am on a work trip for 10 days, and can only claim vegetarian meals on expenses? Sod that.
Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
'Development surveyor Kate Marfleet, 28, is head of the firm's values team and persuaded staff to go vegetarian last year, to reduce its environmental impact. The idea was put to an internal vote and passed, with a few dissenters.'
I can just imagine the emails and company meetings now, with normal people like you and me just saying 'yes whatever' just for an easy life.
As shes probably sat in her office with the heating set to the temperature of the sun and the air-conditioning going at the same time like half the women in offices seem to do, with a added electric fan heater under her desk.I can just imagine the emails and company meetings now, with normal people like you and me just saying 'yes whatever' just for an easy life.
So how do you get decent volumes of protein without meat?
I’ve yet to see any strong evidence of how water is ‘used’ by animals, but somehow fields of chickpeas don’t ‘use’ the water in the water cycle in exactly the same way.
It’s not like cows drink water and then shoot it out into space.
If animals aren’t bred on land, then what is? Fields of chickpeas?
Full of small mammals which live and die and release methane, co2 etc.
Unless they propose farming non organically?
We need a list of these virtue signalling companies so I know who to boycott.
Their echo chamber nonsense is seeping out and many seem to think everyone else is happy to accept it because of their silence.
I’ve yet to see any strong evidence of how water is ‘used’ by animals, but somehow fields of chickpeas don’t ‘use’ the water in the water cycle in exactly the same way.
It’s not like cows drink water and then shoot it out into space.
If animals aren’t bred on land, then what is? Fields of chickpeas?
Full of small mammals which live and die and release methane, co2 etc.
Unless they propose farming non organically?
We need a list of these virtue signalling companies so I know who to boycott.
Their echo chamber nonsense is seeping out and many seem to think everyone else is happy to accept it because of their silence.
I saw the rule this morning on the news and thought it was a bit crazy. I don't mind reducing my meat consumption, but banning it altogether is a bit silly. Additionally, it's bloody hard sometimes to be in a hotel and not find something vegetarian other than a token salad or a nut roast. Even worse if you're on a multi-day business trip as you usually end up eating your way through the menu.
As an example of banning things, my last employer figured out that the company was spending £x million a year purely on alcohol, so took the decision to ban employees from ordering alcohol with any meal. or at any social event. You could buy a customer a beer, but not yourself.
What then happened is that everyone got a bit wise with figuring out how alcohol appeared on receipts. In fact, it really only worked out that having any mention of an alcoholic drink on the receipt was actually the problem, not the Such examples:
As an example of banning things, my last employer figured out that the company was spending £x million a year purely on alcohol, so took the decision to ban employees from ordering alcohol with any meal. or at any social event. You could buy a customer a beer, but not yourself.
What then happened is that everyone got a bit wise with figuring out how alcohol appeared on receipts. In fact, it really only worked out that having any mention of an alcoholic drink on the receipt was actually the problem, not the Such examples:
- Employees getting questioned as to how there were 20 beers on a receipt but no soft drink. Employee said they only had tap water (which was true). Employee was actually in more trouble for not producing a receipt that showed beer + non alcoholic drink than genuinely not buying a soft drink at all, because the finance drones assumed that they were cheating. The norm from then on was to just buy beers and a couple of token cokes.
- Figure out the establishments didn't mind making up receipts. One team meal out had 40 'Yogurts' on it.
- Get the customer to buy you a beer
- Going to hotels that didn't show beer on the final invoices - usually shows up as 'hotel-name restaurant: £40'.
Mr Whippy said:
So how do you get decent volumes of protein without meat?
Well firstly there are eggs... Then:
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/protein-for-v...
Mr Whippy said:
So how do you get decent volumes of protein without meat?
I’ve yet to see any strong evidence of how water is ‘used’ by animals, but somehow fields of chickpeas don’t ‘use’ the water in the water cycle in exactly the same way.
It’s not like cows drink water and then shoot it out into space.
If animals aren’t bred on land, then what is? Fields of chickpeas?
Full of small mammals which live and die and release methane, co2 etc.
Unless they propose farming non organically?
We need a list of these virtue signalling companies so I know who to boycott.
Their echo chamber nonsense is seeping out and many seem to think everyone else is happy to accept it because of their silence.
Who’s we? I tend not to get worked up about a company that I don’t work for’s expenses policyI’ve yet to see any strong evidence of how water is ‘used’ by animals, but somehow fields of chickpeas don’t ‘use’ the water in the water cycle in exactly the same way.
It’s not like cows drink water and then shoot it out into space.
If animals aren’t bred on land, then what is? Fields of chickpeas?
Full of small mammals which live and die and release methane, co2 etc.
Unless they propose farming non organically?
We need a list of these virtue signalling companies so I know who to boycott.
Their echo chamber nonsense is seeping out and many seem to think everyone else is happy to accept it because of their silence.
bad company said:
Bussolini said:
bad company said:
It can’t be difficult to get a receipt for lunch or whatever which doesn’t itemise what was ordered / eaten.
If I don't have an itemized receipt, I don't get my expenses.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff