First woman to pass P-Coy.
Discussion
Ayahuasca said:
Petrus1983 said:
Topbuzz said:
I read that as a comment regarding more women passing the Marine course from as far back as 2002 and this is the first for the Paras.
My bad then. When I did P Coy the longest event was 10 miles, but it was done at pace. So short and sharp. I believe the Marines have longer strolls, but go slower, and have some naked mat rolling event.
brothers a captain in RM
i think the difference is RM you are physical f
ked before test week even starts, and 30 miles is pretty long.
1. A nine mile (14.5 km) speed march, carrying full fighting order, to be completed in 90 minutes; the pace is thus 10 minutes per mile (9.6 km/h or 6 mph).
2. The Endurance course is a six-mile (9.65 km) course which begins with a two-mile (3.22 km) run across rough moorland and woodland terrain at Woodbury Common near Lympstone, which includes tunnels, pipes, wading pools, and an underwater culvert. The course ends with a four-mile (6 km) run back to CTCRM. Followed by a marksmanship test, where the recruit must hit 6 out of 10 shots at a 25m target simulating 200 m. To be completed in 73 minutes (71 minutes for Royal Marine officers).
3. The Tarzan Assault Course. This is an assault course combined with an aerial confidence test. It starts with a death slide (now known as the Commando Slide) and ends with a rope climb up a thirty-foot near-vertical wall. It must be completed with full fighting order in 13 minutes, 12 minutes for officers.
4. The 30 miler. This is a 30-mile (48-km) march across upland Dartmoor, wearing full fighting order, and additional safety equipment carried by the recruit in a daysack. It must be completed in eight hours for recruits and seven hours for Royal Marine officers, who must also navigate the route themselves, rather than following a DS (a trained Royal Marine) with the rest of a syndicate and carry their own equipment.
i think the difference is RM you are physical f
ked before test week even starts, and 30 miles is pretty long. 1. A nine mile (14.5 km) speed march, carrying full fighting order, to be completed in 90 minutes; the pace is thus 10 minutes per mile (9.6 km/h or 6 mph).
2. The Endurance course is a six-mile (9.65 km) course which begins with a two-mile (3.22 km) run across rough moorland and woodland terrain at Woodbury Common near Lympstone, which includes tunnels, pipes, wading pools, and an underwater culvert. The course ends with a four-mile (6 km) run back to CTCRM. Followed by a marksmanship test, where the recruit must hit 6 out of 10 shots at a 25m target simulating 200 m. To be completed in 73 minutes (71 minutes for Royal Marine officers).
3. The Tarzan Assault Course. This is an assault course combined with an aerial confidence test. It starts with a death slide (now known as the Commando Slide) and ends with a rope climb up a thirty-foot near-vertical wall. It must be completed with full fighting order in 13 minutes, 12 minutes for officers.
4. The 30 miler. This is a 30-mile (48-km) march across upland Dartmoor, wearing full fighting order, and additional safety equipment carried by the recruit in a daysack. It must be completed in eight hours for recruits and seven hours for Royal Marine officers, who must also navigate the route themselves, rather than following a DS (a trained Royal Marine) with the rest of a syndicate and carry their own equipment.
ChocolateFrog said:
If you're a good runner P Coy is pretty easy. That's coming from me who never did it but was repeated by a lot of my friends who did.
Definitely favours a decent runner - especially a fell runner probably used to the suffering and can go again over the course of several days = helpful on the log and stretcher. it is also a good test of admin - surprising amount of fit lads fell by the wayside due to running through injury, not looking after their feet, eating badly and / or finding they might be a decent runner at a club or regiment, but it was the ability to dig in that got you over the line.
Castrol for a knave said:
ChocolateFrog said:
If you're a good runner P Coy is pretty easy. That's coming from me who never did it but was repeated by a lot of my friends who did.
Definitely favours a decent runner - especially a fell runner probably used to the suffering and can go again over the course of several days = helpful on the log and stretcher. it is also a good test of admin - surprising amount of fit lads fell by the wayside due to running through injury, not looking after their feet, eating badly and / or finding they might be a decent runner at a club or regiment, but it was the ability to dig in that got you over the line.
If I remember rightly they were able to skip the beat-up weeks too which obviously fatigues you before the test week, could be wrong on that though.
ChocolateFrog said:
The two I know that found it easy were both sub 3hr marathon runners, one has gone on to get podium places at european level triathlons. Both lightish at probably around 70kg. Makes me feel better when I struggled to keep up with them when out for runs or rides. I hate running!
If I remember rightly they were able to skip the beat-up weeks too which obviously fatigues you before the test week, could be wrong on that though.
Also, never underestimate the value of a summer P coy - racing snakes don't like winter If I remember rightly they were able to skip the beat-up weeks too which obviously fatigues you before the test week, could be wrong on that though.
Castrol for a knave said:
ChocolateFrog said:
The two I know that found it easy were both sub 3hr marathon runners, one has gone on to get podium places at european level triathlons. Both lightish at probably around 70kg. Makes me feel better when I struggled to keep up with them when out for runs or rides. I hate running!
If I remember rightly they were able to skip the beat-up weeks too which obviously fatigues you before the test week, could be wrong on that though.
Also, never underestimate the value of a summer P coy - racing snakes don't like winter If I remember rightly they were able to skip the beat-up weeks too which obviously fatigues you before the test week, could be wrong on that though.
Ayahuasca said:
The most horrific event at P Coy is probably the log race, only three miles or so but because you are roped to the telegraph pole and everyone sets off at a sprint, you have no option but to sprint, and you have to keep pulling the log, woe betide you if the log starts pulling you.
The gap on the top of the tower of the trainasium is most people’s nemesis. The gap is only a couple of feet across IIRC and the drop to the deck is only 10 feet ( deliberately, because that’s the same as landing with a standard canopy during jumps ) but it’s 30 feet up in the air, and that gap seems a lot bigger when you get to it. The main ideas of P Coy are equally to test physical fitness and aversion to primal fears (fear of loud noises, and fear of falling are 2 key fears that everyone is born with, hence the design of the trainasium ) The aversion to fear is as important as the physical side of it. They need to be super fit, and show no fear, that’s why P Coy training week is designed the way it is.AshVX220 said:
Considering how well this lass has done so far in her career, I wonder if she'll laos be the first woman to get through selection for SF, though of course if that happens we won't hear about it until after she's finished in the SF.
Would say SRR if her face wasn’t plastered all over the internet. GOATever said:
Ayahuasca said:
The most horrific event at P Coy is probably the log race, only three miles or so but because you are roped to the telegraph pole and everyone sets off at a sprint, you have no option but to sprint, and you have to keep pulling the log, woe betide you if the log starts pulling you.
The gap on the top of the tower of the trainasium is most people’s nemesis. The gap is only a couple of feet across IIRC and the drop to the deck is only 10 feet ( deliberately, because that’s the same as landing with a standard canopy during jumps ) but it’s 30 feet up in the air, and that gap seems a lot bigger when you get to it. The main ideas of P Coy are equally to test physical fitness and aversion to primal fears (fear of loud noises, and fear of falling are 2 key fears that everyone is born with, hence the design of the trainasium ) The aversion to fear is as important as the physical side of it. They need to be super fit, and show no fear, that’s why P Coy training week is designed the way it is.There is a great Channel 4 Cutting Edge program on you tube about P Coy, and the staff in the program were the same ones I had.
https://youtu.be/il4ksGZsYp8
GOATever said:
The gap on the top of the tower of the trainasium is most people’s nemesis. The gap is only a couple of feet across IIRC and the drop to the deck is only 10 feet ( deliberately, because that’s the same as landing with a standard canopy during jumps ) but it’s 30 feet up in the air, and that gap seems a lot bigger when you get to it. The main ideas of P Coy are equally to test physical fitness and aversion to primal fears (fear of loud noises, and fear of falling are 2 key fears that everyone is born with, hence the design of the trainasium ) The aversion to fear is as important as the physical side of it. They need to be super fit, and show no fear, that’s why P Coy training week is designed the way it is.
I had to hold my stones to cross the gap (it was a step up on the bars). Despite years of rock and ice climbing, often solo or on big run out pitches, it gave a really exposed feeling, the legs are also going as it came just after the 10 miler. Once over that, all is good, though I nearly took my nose of on the cargo net because i am a 'tard. z4RRSchris said:
brothers a captain in RM
i think the difference is RM you are physical fked before test week even starts, and 30 miles is pretty long.
1. A nine mile (14.5 km) speed march, carrying full fighting order, to be completed in 90 minutes; the pace is thus 10 minutes per mile (9.6 km/h or 6 mph).
2. The Endurance course is a six-mile (9.65 km) course which begins with a two-mile (3.22 km) run across rough moorland and woodland terrain at Woodbury Common near Lympstone, which includes tunnels, pipes, wading pools, and an underwater culvert. The course ends with a four-mile (6 km) run back to CTCRM. Followed by a marksmanship test, where the recruit must hit 6 out of 10 shots at a 25m target simulating 200 m. To be completed in 73 minutes (71 minutes for Royal Marine officers).
3. The Tarzan Assault Course. This is an assault course combined with an aerial confidence test. It starts with a death slide (now known as the Commando Slide) and ends with a rope climb up a thirty-foot near-vertical wall. It must be completed with full fighting order in 13 minutes, 12 minutes for officers.
4. The 30 miler. This is a 30-mile (48-km) march across upland Dartmoor, wearing full fighting order, and additional safety equipment carried by the recruit in a daysack. It must be completed in eight hours for recruits and seven hours for Royal Marine officers, who must also navigate the route themselves, rather than following a DS (a trained Royal Marine) with the rest of a syndicate and carry their own equipment.
Not to mention the bottom field tests. Timed assault course, 30 ft rope climb, regain etc. i think the difference is RM you are physical f
ked before test week even starts, and 30 miles is pretty long. 1. A nine mile (14.5 km) speed march, carrying full fighting order, to be completed in 90 minutes; the pace is thus 10 minutes per mile (9.6 km/h or 6 mph).
2. The Endurance course is a six-mile (9.65 km) course which begins with a two-mile (3.22 km) run across rough moorland and woodland terrain at Woodbury Common near Lympstone, which includes tunnels, pipes, wading pools, and an underwater culvert. The course ends with a four-mile (6 km) run back to CTCRM. Followed by a marksmanship test, where the recruit must hit 6 out of 10 shots at a 25m target simulating 200 m. To be completed in 73 minutes (71 minutes for Royal Marine officers).
3. The Tarzan Assault Course. This is an assault course combined with an aerial confidence test. It starts with a death slide (now known as the Commando Slide) and ends with a rope climb up a thirty-foot near-vertical wall. It must be completed with full fighting order in 13 minutes, 12 minutes for officers.
4. The 30 miler. This is a 30-mile (48-km) march across upland Dartmoor, wearing full fighting order, and additional safety equipment carried by the recruit in a daysack. It must be completed in eight hours for recruits and seven hours for Royal Marine officers, who must also navigate the route themselves, rather than following a DS (a trained Royal Marine) with the rest of a syndicate and carry their own equipment.
XCP said:
Not to mention the bottom field tests. Timed assault course, 30 ft rope climb, regain etc.
Bottom Field pass out is done on week 15 of 32 for regular recruits and includes all that plus a fireman’s carry with both of you wearing webbing and a rifle. The Tarzan commando test also includes the bottom field assault course with a half regain in it. One of the cheekiest parts of RM training I found was the 12 mile load carry. At 36 I’d be pretty confident of doing all the commmando tests again except the bottom field or the Tarzan. No hope in hell with those.
dai1983 said:
Bottom Field pass out is done on week 15 of 32 for regular recruits and includes all that plus a fireman’s carry with both of you wearing webbing and a rifle. The Tarzan commando test also includes the bottom field assault course with a half regain in it.
One of the cheekiest parts of RM training I found was the 12 mile load carry. At 36 I’d be pretty confident of doing all the commmando tests again except the bottom field or the Tarzan. No hope in hell with those.
I was RMR when I was 19. I found the bottom field hardest.( course we were lugging an SLR around in those days). Being 60 now I doubt I could even lace the boots up! Respect to those who get the beret.One of the cheekiest parts of RM training I found was the 12 mile load carry. At 36 I’d be pretty confident of doing all the commmando tests again except the bottom field or the Tarzan. No hope in hell with those.
XCP said:
I was RMR when I was 19. I found the bottom field hardest.( course we were lugging an SLR around in those days). Being 60 now I doubt I could even lace the boots up! Respect to those who get the beret.
I remember being surprised at how some short-arsed Gunners/Sappers/Vicars etc on my AACC really struggled getting over that 6' wall (I'm 6'2''). But they were like rats up a drain-pipe through the tunnels on Woodbury, especially the Smartie Tube where lanky gits like me got jammed.Jaaws said:
XCP said:
I was RMR when I was 19. I found the bottom field hardest.( course we were lugging an SLR around in those days). Being 60 now I doubt I could even lace the boots up! Respect to those who get the beret.
I remember being surprised at how some short-arsed Gunners/Sappers/Vicars etc on my AACC really struggled getting over that 6' wall (I'm 6'2''). But they were like rats up a drain-pipe through the tunnels on Woodbury, especially the Smartie Tube where lanky gits like me got jammed.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff