RE: More extreme Civic Type R Limited Edition launched

RE: More extreme Civic Type R Limited Edition launched

Thursday 20th February 2020

More extreme Civic Type R Limited Edition launched

100-unit car gets more grip and lightness - and could preview future series model while 2020 update also brings a subtler Type R...



Honda has widened the appeal of its Civic Type R with the launch of a higher-performance Limited Edition and a subtler Sport Line for 2020. They join the existing GT with a raft of chassis and ergonomic updates, confirming that Honda is far from done fine-tuning its 320hp hot hatch. Type R project boss Hideki Kakinuma hinted that the 100-run Limited Edition could even be followed by another series run model – and Honda Racing partner JAS Motorsport added fuel to the flames by suggesting it would like to get involved with a road car…

For now, though, it’s the Limited Edition – of which 20 are set for Britain – that will fly the Type R flag with its list of upgrades. They include a set of sticky Michelin Cup 2 tyres wrapped around lightweight, flow-formed 20-inch BBS wheels, new dampers honed specifically for this setup and a recalibrated EPAS system to get the best from it all. No less significant is a 47kg diet for the structure, achieved largely thanks to the removal of infotainment, air con and sound deadening. Honda hasn’t gone all out and removed the car’s back bench, so it somewhat bizarrely remains a five-seater with no amenities.


At the other end of the three-variant range, the Sport Line arrives to appease those never won over by the Civic Type R’s aggressive looks. It uses a lower rear wing, smaller – albeit still 19-inch – wheels and slightly squidgier Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tyres, while the red lines of the CTR’s exterior have been swapped for grey ones. This is mirrored inside by the swapping of red sports seats for black ones, while more soundproofing has been added to the boot and tailgate for reduced road noise and better refinement. Kakinuma said that while the car was slightly softer and heavier with its new bits, the shorter wing-maintained GT-levels of aerodynamic stability.

That the general updates applied across the range are arguably even more tantalising than the new versions emphasise just how serious Honda is about maintaining its lead in the hot hatch segment. All variants receive a new lower intake on the front bumper to enhance engine cooling and maintain peak performance, but to claw back the resulting lost downforce from the new opening, the front air dam has been adjusted. Then there are the new two-part brakes, which replace the original FK8’s single-piece ones for better heat control and a 2.5kg weight saving, directly inspired by the system used on JAS’s TCR-spec machines. It’s properly nerdy stuff.


But there’s more. The suspension has been given lower friction front ball joints all around, while the lower arm bushes are stiffer and there’s a new control algorithm for the active damping. The changes are said to reduce pitch and improve diagonal roll control for better braking and traction, with increased damping forces held when the car is cornering for greater apex speeds.

The changes aren’t just centred around improving overall performance, though, but also driving enjoyment. This is illustrated by the addition of a 90-gram counterweight for the six-speed manual’s lever, which is now an EP3-aping teardrop shape, for improved shift action, and an Alcantara-wrapped steering wheel. Quite the signal of intent for a car already hailed to have excellent handling and a class-leading gearbox.


Naturally in 2020, there are a few digital tweaks, including an updated infotainment system to address one of the car’s weakest assets, an all-new for Honda LogR software that has a GPS lap timer and track driving analysis ability, as well as new engine sound tech for the speakers. The system is designed to cancel out the engine’s tone in Comfort mode, or pipe in more of it for the Sport and +R modes. Oh, and Honda’s added two vibrant new colours to the palette, Racing Blue and a Limited Edition-only Sunrise Yellow, which you may recognise from the original Integra and Civic Type Rs.

You probably won’t be surprised to hear that another Nurburgring lap is on the cards. While the Limited Edition’s makeover isn’t as extreme as the £70k Megane Trophy-R that Renault Sport set its FWD record with, the car only has to make up 3.9 seconds over the original GT’s time to beat its rival. Cup 2 boots and lighter wheels alone ought to shave a significant chunk from that deficit. Even if the limited run CTR fails to make up ground, JAS Motorsport’s business development manager Mads Fischer was eager to tell PH about his company’s dreams of influencing an extreme Civic road car. The firm has reliably tuned a turbocharged K20 motor to 400hp. So watch this space.

As for the confirmed 2020 Type R line-up, the cars are expected to go on sale after their public debuts at the Geneva motor show next month. Pricing will, of course, be confirmed closer to that. Can’t wait? Us neither.







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NSX888

Original Poster:

6 posts

83 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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Looks much better. Would love to get another Type R as miss my old one. I know I’m in the wrong place to be saying this (and will be reminded) but I do hope Honda has also sorted out the infortainment system.

macky17

2,212 posts

189 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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They all look great. 19s look fine (are those fk2 wheels or a new design?) but has to be the big wing for me.

Bladedancer

1,265 posts

196 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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This is all great but this is a Type-R. Where's one in white?

Anthony S

4 posts

205 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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I can't help but think it looks a little too toned down in Sport Line trim; maybe it's mainly down to the change from 20" to 19" wheels...... instead of looking like a more subtle Type R, it looks more like a jazzed-up Civic from lower down the line-up. Also, despite the polarising looks of the Type R with big wing (I happen to love it), it will be interesting to see what becomes the bigger seller, Beasty or Sport Line.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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FFS Honda, the Sportline looks but without the other changes would make such a difference. Why soften off the rest of the car just because the attention-magnet spoiler has gone.

Still liking the updates.

rb_89

113 posts

70 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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Lovely stuff Honda, the 2020 sounds like it's getting a good range of subtle tweaks to make the best even better. Wonder how much the Limited Edition one will retail for, lovely colour.. I'm guessing it will nudge North of £38k..

Interesting they've listened to feedback from people who don't want their car to look TOO wild and built a stealth one. It will be interesting to see the feedback and over time sales statistics for that model. For me, it's gotta have a big Wang though, just not the same without it, those black seats are lovely though.

Haltamer

2,455 posts

80 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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I've seen elsewhere there's about 20 of the limited edition coming to the UK - A bit Megane RS trophy!

Other than that, Now the boring don't have a wing to complain about which is nice smile

Sport220

630 posts

75 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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What's the point of a Civic without aircon and infotainment?

MustardCutter

238 posts

120 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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The toned down one still looks silly with the triple exhausts with different diameters, ugly bits stuck at the top of the boot and all the fake big plastic vents. Those are the bits that need toning down; the standard spoiler looks great.

TWPC

842 posts

161 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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The Sport Line and its slightly more discreet looks are a big step in the right direction for the likes of me. All that I've read about the Civic Type R makes me want one but the original wing was just too much...

Given the comments at launch by Honda about the looks, the functionality of the wing and the consequence being that they would not launch a less wild-looking version I find the following exchange between Autocar and Kakinuma-san, on Autocar's website today, very frustrating:

"Q. Is the Sport Line model’s handling affected by the smaller wing?

A. We are not talking about real racing cars where you have tonnes of downforce and drag - if you compare the top speed of both cars (standard and Sport Line) they are more or less on the same level. The rear wing is not really that big of an influence - the Type R’s high-speed stability comes from the base platform layout and suspension specification. The functionality has been maintained for both wing designs."

Baldchap

7,599 posts

92 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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TWPC said:
The Sport Line and its slightly more discreet looks are a big step in the right direction for the likes of me. All that I've read about the Civic Type R makes me want one but the original wing was just too much...

Given the comments at launch by Honda about the looks, the functionality of the wing and the consequence being that they would not launch a less wild-looking version I find the following exchange between Autocar and Kakinuma-san, on Autocar's website today, very frustrating:

"Q. Is the Sport Line model’s handling affected by the smaller wing?

A. We are not talking about real racing cars where you have tonnes of downforce and drag - if you compare the top speed of both cars (standard and Sport Line) they are more or less on the same level. The rear wing is not really that big of an influence - the Type R’s high-speed stability comes from the base platform layout and suspension specification. The functionality has been maintained for both wing designs."
There's some definite porkies being told somewhere at Honda.

Wonder how 'almost standard' the record breaking car really was? Astonishing that nobody with a real car seems to have got anywhere near Honda's performance claims.

Problem is, when you get caught telling lies, people start to think about the rest of what you say...

NGK210

2,911 posts

145 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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Liking the grey car very much, inside and out it looks mean and purposeful whereas the regular Type-R looks wannabe and tragic.
Good news about the infotainment, too.
Love the attention to detail re. the mechanical and chassis upgrades.
Hopefully, Honda will match the Mk8 GTI’s price?

otolith

56,030 posts

204 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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Ah, "nutter-spec" and "accountant-spec" versions.

Jon_S_Rally

3,400 posts

88 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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Give me the updated normal car with the black seats from the Sportline please. I don't mind the big wing. The car is wild and purposeful looking, and I am fine with that. It's all the red inside that spoils it for me, it hurts my eyes.

SFO

5,169 posts

183 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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wonder how the 19” wheels of the Sport Line affect steering, ride and handling

Jaaws

170 posts

101 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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Wonder where these will be built now Swindon is closing?

driftingphil

138 posts

147 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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Not sure why everyone complains about the looks, to me this car is like buying a lambo.. but for those that can't afford one.

And those that want the full fat without the spoiler, surely the new spoiler will bolt straight on in replacement of the tall one?

would be nice if you could spec the black seats for those that want that in the regular one.


dave23572

31 posts

198 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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Honda ARE listening to the UK market it seems!
The sport Line is much more appealing to me (age 47).
The previous CTR seemed to me to be styled for 20 year olds.
The Sport-line could sell well, picking up a lot of buyers that really wanted a CTR but couldn't live with the styling so were pushed to more subtle looking hot hartches like the Golf-R.

Some worthwhile updates there but I haven't read anything about Honda introducing user customisable driving modes so you can have your own preferred combination of steering, engine map and suspension.
So many reviewers have asked for that.
It would be so easy to implement, it's a simple software change.

Sion111R

311 posts

92 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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S Line looks great to my eyes and having tyres with greater sidewall will help in the ongoing game of pot hole roulette every time i leave the safety of my drive. Hopefully i will be able to get my better half past the showroom door as the big wing was always a deal breaker. Apparently one large rear wing (Integra Type R) is the limit for our family and at 52 i should be looking at something more sensible. Type R S Line is perfect.

stuart_83

1,009 posts

101 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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Really liking the look of the Sportline, I'd have one.

If they can sort the infotainment out it'd be a massive win. Then again, as long as it supports Android Auto (which I believe it does) I'm happy.

Definitely taking a look this time next year when my current car goes back.

Will also be interested to see what Hyundai do with the i30N.