Thoughts on the Hyundai IONIQ Hatch 5D Electric?
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dmsims said:
Bizarre, it's still 50mm taller than a Mini
Not bizarre, just to do with the location of the battery. Under the floor means that the floor has to come up a bit to maintain ground clearance. Actually both the Ioniq and Model 3 have quite low ground clearance as well as a raised floor.Anyway that raised floor means that the space between the floor and ceiling is reduced too. I haven't been in a new Mini ever so I can't comment but compared to say a Leaf or i3 or Niro etc they are both quite small with a low driving position. I think the driving position is because they are more recumbent than cars that let you sit more upright to take advantage of that extra space between floor and roof.
jjwilde said:
It's also quite slow for an EV isn't it and yet still not as efficient as the Tesla M3.
From what I've read of real-world range tests, the latter part of that is not true in practice. The Ioniq seems to pretty consistantly come top when journalists measure real-world miles/kwh. Usually followed up by other cars from the Hyundai/Kia stable. kambites said:
jjwilde said:
It's also quite slow for an EV isn't it and yet still not as efficient as the Tesla M3.
From what I've read of real-world range tests, the latter part of that is not true in practice. The Ioniq seems to pretty consistantly come top when journalists measure real-world miles/kwh. Usually followed up by other cars from the Hyundai/Kia stable. aestetix1 said:
In some ways the older one is actually better. It charges faster so on a very long trip it's a bit quicker overall. But for anything else the bigger battery will be a winner.
Why on earth does the older car charge faster? I can't understand it being faster in percentage terms, but in absolute terms? kambites said:
aestetix1 said:
In some ways the older one is actually better. It charges faster so on a very long trip it's a bit quicker overall. But for anything else the bigger battery will be a winner.
Why on earth does the older car charge faster? I can't understand it being faster in percentage terms, but in absolute terms? So it charges in % terms and absolute terms quicker. The 28 is one of the faster charging EV’s excluding Tesla until fairly recently.
Even on a 50kw charger, the 28 will charge faster and for higher up the battery SOC than the 38
Edited by A900ss on Sunday 23 February 21:45
kambites said:
Curious, although the lack of chargers which can feed over 50kw at the moment I suppose makes it something of a moot point.
Even sticking to 50kw chargers, the 28 charges faster and for longer (higher up the SOC). More and more 150kw chargers are now being installed which will give the older car more options going forward.
However, if I had the choice of a 50 or a 150, I think I’d still wait the extra few minutes with my 28 unless I was really in a hurry as I guess the slower charge will be less stressful in the battery.
DSLiverpool said:
Its a small low car, we had the hybrid so can't comment on power train but as a car, I didn't like it. Also had a Leaf and Zoe, she now has a Quashqai but will go Model Y when available.
It is not a small low car! I came back from a shop to find one parked next to my BMW F30 335d. I was quite surprised at the height. The waist rail is higher too, which adds to that impression.Dimensions in mm.
F30: L= 4633; W+ mirrors=2031; W minus mirrors=1811; height=1434
Ioniq: L= 4470; W+ mirrors=2045; W minus mirrors=1820; height=1450
Those width and height dimensions may seem only a small increase, but the style of the Ioniq makes it seem quite bulky and certainly not sleek next to the F30,
Pica-Pica said:
It is not a small low car! I came back from a shop to find one parked next to my BMW F30 335d. I was quite surprised at the height. The waist rail is higher too, which adds to that impression.
Dimensions in mm.
F30: L= 4633; W+ mirrors=2031; W minus mirrors=1811; height=1434
Ioniq: L= 4470; W+ mirrors=2045; W minus mirrors=1820; height=1450
Those width and height dimensions may seem only a small increase, but the style of the Ioniq makes it seem quite bulky and certainly not sleek next to the F30,
We owned one, it replaced a Zoe and was smaller inside. Dash was made of a weird cardboard type stuff. Dimensions in mm.
F30: L= 4633; W+ mirrors=2031; W minus mirrors=1811; height=1434
Ioniq: L= 4470; W+ mirrors=2045; W minus mirrors=1820; height=1450
Those width and height dimensions may seem only a small increase, but the style of the Ioniq makes it seem quite bulky and certainly not sleek next to the F30,
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