Porsche 911 Reimagined by Singer

Porsche 911 Reimagined by Singer

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AmoCS

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1,143 posts

218 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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Slippydiff

14,742 posts

222 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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Prepare for a barrage from the usual haters hehe

Overpriced, over-tyred, over-hyped, comedic looks, etc etc biggrin

robinh73

917 posts

199 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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Simply stunning in my opinion. As cool as can be and so desirable. Given the choice between the crop of new hypercars or a Singer, it is a total no brainer. The Singer wins time and time again.

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

278 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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Lovely.

AmoCS

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1,143 posts

218 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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yes

deadslow

7,962 posts

222 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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how would this compare to the Ruf SCR?

Twinfan

10,125 posts

103 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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I'd rather have a GT2RS, but then I'm not into anything old or retro...

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

264 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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Slippydiff said:
Prepare for a barrage from the usual haters hehe

Overpriced, over-tyred, over-hyped, comedic looks, etc etc biggrin
Are those your thoughts ?

Gio G

2,945 posts

208 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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No hating from me, I love it... I hear very few get to drive them...

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RDMcG

19,096 posts

206 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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Wonderful!

Slippydiff

14,742 posts

222 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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Porsche911R said:
Are those your thoughts ?
Nope (well possibly the overpriced bit) although I do think/know you could build something just as trick suspension/brakes/steering wise, with a 350-360 hp lump, a six speed 'box and a more RS like focused interior, around a narrowbody shell for £150K, and it would give you 80% of what the Singer offers for less than a third of the price.

But I think the way Singer have executed the concept is good from an engineering perspective, I certainly prefer it to what Guntherworks have done with their 993 concept.

When the likes of Meaden, Catchpole and Harris eulogise over the Singer, one has to wonder just how good it is. I think for many the idea of a 964 with modern (ish) driving/performance dynamics is a win/win concept brought to fruition.

Sure you can buy a hell of lot of nice metal for £500K, but in the right colour, the Singer is so understated, and it's unlikely to ever cause offence, whereas anything else from the usual suspects make you look like you're trying too hard.





AlienLifeForm

467 posts

70 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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It’s the needless hipster gentrification of a timeless classic.

Beards are better without oil, coffee is better without a splash of almond milk and 911’s are better without Singer.

Taffy66

5,964 posts

101 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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The pic above in Grey really shows up the Singer in its best light..Understated and classy without being too OTT IMO.In my case its totally irrelevant as its so far beyond my pay grade it shall remain a dream car. Really like them as long as the colour is right and not too in yer face.

Gary C

12,313 posts

178 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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Twinfan said:
I'd rather have a GT2RS, but then I'm not into anything old or retro...
I found the GT2RS to be too stiff to handle well on the road front end bobbed a lot and the steering wheel was far too thin (oddly), GT3 far better car in my opinion.

isaldiri

18,411 posts

167 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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deadslow said:
how would this compare to the Ruf SCR?
Would love to see this comparison some day. I admire what Singer have done wrt to attention to detail and aesthetics but the RUF seems to be the car with more of a nod to the actual engineering bits where the $$ has been spent on improving.

Robbo66

3,828 posts

232 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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Slippydiff said:
Prepare for a barrage from the usual haters hehe

Overpriced, over-tyred, over-hyped, comedic looks, etc etc biggrin
Wasn’t going to say a thing H wink

Interior looks like the inside of Liberace’s handbag, with Lizzo’s rear end.

About as ‘classy’ as James Stunt.

This however....McQueen’s S for same money....where do I sign.



Turn7

23,502 posts

220 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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Love that Singer, it shows the new models to be the true lard arses they have become for one, plus it sounds fabulous.

Yes, its over priced, but......

If I had GT3RS money and could be something close, I think I could be tempted..... (not driven a GT3 mind)

As I think Ive said before, as a young impressionable petrolhead, I used to walk past Autofarms workshops in Amersham on a daily basis, and they always had something of that ilk on show, so for me, I think the Singer just looks right.

Yellow491

2,911 posts

118 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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isaldiri said:
deadslow said:
how would this compare to the Ruf SCR?
Would love to see this comparison some day. I admire what Singer have done wrt to attention to detail and aesthetics but the RUF seems to be the car with more of a nod to the actual engineering bits where the $$ has been spent on improving.
Spot on re ruf ,mate is having one built at the mo,proper fast,light and classy.
Porsche make the best porsche cars!

Slippydiff

14,742 posts

222 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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Robbo66 said:
Wasn’t going to say a thing H wink

Interior looks like the inside of Liberace’s handbag, with Lizzo’s rear end.

About as ‘classy’ as James Stunt.

This however....McQueen’s S for same money....where do I sign.

Evening chap, hope you’re well ?

Nothing’s perfect, I’m with HC, I’m not a fan of the mirrors either, the exhaust is all wrong too, if they’re trying to ape the styling of an early car, be it an ST or a 2.8 RSR, the silencer and tailpipes should look much closer in design to the original.
Taking into account what Singer charge, the silencer should be a custom pressed component formed from inconel, the tailpipes should be further apart, and their ends should look like the originals. This would also require the rear panel to have two small cutouts to provide clearance for tailpipes.

Whilst the interiors are beautifully upholstered, they are a tad on the chintzy side. The 964 RS interior is an object lesson in minimalism, I’d spec mine very much along the same lines, albeit with leather on the door cards, dash etc.
I’d want all the sound deadening Singer specify, and some much higher quality carpet, but fitted in the same style as the original 964 RS carpets, but with the edges trimmed in leather rather than the vinyl Porsche used.
The seatbelt housings would be similar to the OE RS items, but would be covered in stitched leather.
The dash clocks would have plain Jane faces and needles.
I’d leave the rear arches exactly as they are ( and for what it’s worth, I think they’re far more aesthetically pleasing than the 930 Turbo items, and the 964 Turbo/3.8 RS arches...)
There, I said it smile

There’s a host of other stuff I’d change and it improve, but I won’t bore everyone with the details !

RSVP911

8,192 posts

132 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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Slippydiff said:
Robbo66 said:
Wasn’t going to say a thing H wink

Interior looks like the inside of Liberace’s handbag, with Lizzo’s rear end.

About as ‘classy’ as James Stunt.

This however....McQueen’s S for same money....where do I sign.

Evening chap, hope you’re well ?

Nothing’s perfect, I’m with HC, I’m not a fan of the mirrors either, the exhaust is all wrong too, if they’re trying to ape the styling of an early car, be it an ST or a 2.8 RSR, the silencer and tailpipes should look much closer in design to the original.
Taking into account what Singer charge, the silencer should be a custom pressed component formed from inconel, the tailpipes should be further apart, and their ends should look like the originals. This would also require the rear panel to have two small cutouts to provide clearance for tailpipes.

Whilst the interiors are beautifully upholstered, they are a tad on the chintzy side. The 964 RS interior is an object lesson in minimalism, I’d spec mine very much along the same lines, albeit with leather on the door cards, dash etc.
I’d want all the sound deadening Singer specify, and some much higher quality carpet, but fitted in the same style as the original 964 RS carpets, but with the edges trimmed in leather rather than the vinyl Porsche used.
The seatbelt housings would be similar to the OE RS items, but would be covered in stitched leather.
The dash clocks would have plain Jane faces and needles.
I’d leave the rear arches exactly as they are ( and for what it’s worth, I think they’re far more aesthetically pleasing than the 930 Turbo items, and the 964 Turbo/3.8 RS arches...)
There, I said it smile

There’s a host of other stuff I’d change and it improve, but I won’t bore everyone with the details !
I think they look epic in the right spec - but as we’ve already ascertained, I don’t have any taste and like a bit of old tat. In truth though, if I had that sort of money to spend on a car it would be a Carrera GT smile

Edited by RSVP911 on Monday 24th February 22:36