Organ donation.
Discussion
I dont know about this one, I can understand the need for organs and also the need to get them fast to save others, but thats tempered with the thought that government has basically just declared ownership of you.
I know this all started way back with the Gordon of Brown fellow, but I dont like the idea that its deemed fine to just claim your body parts are theirs.
Whether my organs are any good to anyone else isnt clear, It dosnt sit easily with me.
I know this all started way back with the Gordon of Brown fellow, but I dont like the idea that its deemed fine to just claim your body parts are theirs.
Whether my organs are any good to anyone else isnt clear, It dosnt sit easily with me.
I think it's a difficult subject to discuss as you're in the realms of what constitutes death.
People say "Oh I'll be dead so it doesn't matter" but if you're dead dead then your organs will most likely be useless for donation anyway. For all the good stuff to be viable you have to be 'dead' dead.
People say "Oh I'll be dead so it doesn't matter" but if you're dead dead then your organs will most likely be useless for donation anyway. For all the good stuff to be viable you have to be 'dead' dead.
One of the guys I work with has just been to visit his mate in hospital yesterday. He has just had a lung transplant. Without it, his cystic fibrosis would have killed him anytime now. It's so tricky to get lungs - I don't know the full ins and out of that - that he's had seven cancelled operation dates. This new ruling will, apparently, help the situation massively.
IMHO, people can have my bits. When I am dead, I will not be using them.
IMHO, people can have my bits. When I am dead, I will not be using them.
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: I think there was a thread on this some time back.
To paraphrase it seemed to come down to "just opt out" and "why should I have to opt out?" and "I'm going to opt out even though I favour organ donation because that'll show the Government".
Sounds about right for PH, unfortunately.To paraphrase it seemed to come down to "just opt out" and "why should I have to opt out?" and "I'm going to opt out even though I favour organ donation because that'll show the Government".
chow pan toon said:
Opt out then.
I think the OP objects to the concept that our body autonomy is impacted by this and the concept should be to Opt In. Namely people volunteer for this rather than are required to absent evidence they do not wish it. There is a more difficult issue regarding how much effort will be put in to save people when it is known that they could save several lives if they "died"....I am waiting for the opportunity to speak to a couple of friends about this who will know exactly how that will go.
I can only see it as a positive thing.
Few months back someone I know received a new kidney, without it they would have died. Just after Xmas someone else I know died donating various organs which saved at least one other person. Last week another died who might have had a longer life if a transplant was available.
By the time I die I doubt anything will be of use but anyone is welcome to anything that is.
Few months back someone I know received a new kidney, without it they would have died. Just after Xmas someone else I know died donating various organs which saved at least one other person. Last week another died who might have had a longer life if a transplant was available.
By the time I die I doubt anything will be of use but anyone is welcome to anything that is.
A good mate of mine is on his 3rd kidney and despite everything he has been through, he is one of the most positive people I know.
It makes me sad to think he may not be here now had he not got the transplants when he needed them.
Take what you want from me, it's only going to get incinerated.
It makes me sad to think he may not be here now had he not got the transplants when he needed them.
Take what you want from me, it's only going to get incinerated.
SHutchinson said:
One of my pals died on Sunday. Her family have found it massively comforting knowing that three people have benefited from her death. It's a small comfort, but it's a comfort.
Why would you object? What selfish reason could you have to cling on to stuff you couldn't ever use again?
A lad I know, his brother committed suicide as he felt his life was worthless and that by killing himself and donating his organs it'd give his life some meaning and other people a chance at life. Of course, by the time anyone found him most of his organs were useless, because he was dead. Why would you object? What selfish reason could you have to cling on to stuff you couldn't ever use again?
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