Coronavirus and schools
Discussion
sim72 said:
Reported to be in the schools guidance, published tomorrow...
Apparently we need to stagger the year groups arrivals and departures. Not sure how we’re going to manage that given that 70% of our students come on buses, unless the government is going to hugely increase education transport funding! The DFE said:
No in-class social distancing requirement for primary pupils, with secondary pupils advised to stay one metre apart but not at all times. Teachers advised to keep two metres away from pupils, at the front of the class, and away from colleagues as much as possible as if in a supermarket.
No face coverings for pupils or teachers, on Public Health England advice, as they "interfere" with teaching and learning. Teachers advised to spend no more than 15 minutes at any one time closer than one metre to anyone. Heads told not to put in any physical distancing that would require extra space or make it impossible for all pupils to return full-time.
Whole classes or year groups liable to be sent home if a pupil tests positive, but whole school closure not seen as generally necessary.
How do you bubble year groups and stop them interacting with any other student for the whole day? I think the word "impossible" springs to mindNo face coverings for pupils or teachers, on Public Health England advice, as they "interfere" with teaching and learning. Teachers advised to spend no more than 15 minutes at any one time closer than one metre to anyone. Heads told not to put in any physical distancing that would require extra space or make it impossible for all pupils to return full-time.
Whole classes or year groups liable to be sent home if a pupil tests positive, but whole school closure not seen as generally necessary.
The DFE said:
Fines of up to £120 for parents whose children fail to attend school. In contrast with the "softly softly" approach taken during full lockdown the message will be "education is not optional". "Robust" measures will be taken to engage with families where children had been persistently absent prior to the pandemic or who have not engaged with school regularly during the pandemic.
"Robust", eh? Good luck.The DFE said:
Some subjects for some or all pupils may have to be suspended for two terms to allow catch-up on core subjects such as English and maths with a full spread of subjects returning in the summer term of 2021.
Some pupils may have to drop some GCSEs altogether in Year 11 to allow them to catch up and achieve better grades in English and maths. GCSEs and A levels to take place as planned next summer but with some "adaptations".
First year pupils at secondary school may have to be re-taught English and maths from their final year syllabus at primary level.
(a) what a shambles (b) where do we get all those extra Maths and English teachers from, please? And who pays them?Some pupils may have to drop some GCSEs altogether in Year 11 to allow them to catch up and achieve better grades in English and maths. GCSEs and A levels to take place as planned next summer but with some "adaptations".
First year pupils at secondary school may have to be re-taught English and maths from their final year syllabus at primary level.
One of my friends at another school said that their SLT have suggested (in total seriousness apparently!) that they’ll stagger arrival and departure by 30 seconds for each year, and get them all on their usual buses.
nadger said:
Apparently we need to stagger the year groups arrivals and departures. Not sure how we’re going to manage that given that 70% of our students come on buses, unless the government is going to hugely increase education transport funding!
One of my friends at another school said that their SLT have suggested (in total seriousness apparently!) that they’ll stagger arrival and departure by 30 seconds for each year, and get them all on their usual buses.
If I'm asked to re-timetable on a staggered arrival basis I think I'll claim to have suffered a brain injury that's rendered me unable to use NOVA . One of my friends at another school said that their SLT have suggested (in total seriousness apparently!) that they’ll stagger arrival and departure by 30 seconds for each year, and get them all on their usual buses.
sim72 said:
Lucas CAV said:
Already scrapped one TT this week...
300 y10 in this week.
Three hundred?! Blimey.300 y10 in this week.
We’re having a quarter in a week at a time.
Just out of interest has anyone seen the laptops yet promised for the disadvantaged??
Edited by Simes205 on Tuesday 30th June 23:31
sim72 said:
nadger said:
Apparently we need to stagger the year groups arrivals and departures. Not sure how we’re going to manage that given that 70% of our students come on buses, unless the government is going to hugely increase education transport funding!
One of my friends at another school said that their SLT have suggested (in total seriousness apparently!) that they’ll stagger arrival and departure by 30 seconds for each year, and get them all on their usual buses.
If I'm asked to re-timetable on a staggered arrival basis I think I'll claim to have suffered a brain injury that's rendered me unable to use NOVA . One of my friends at another school said that their SLT have suggested (in total seriousness apparently!) that they’ll stagger arrival and departure by 30 seconds for each year, and get them all on their usual buses.
Tbh, I’d claim that to avoid having to use Nova!
So, any one else in secondary worked out how to bubble the year groups?
We can do it - we think - but it involves a lot of messy timetabling and teachers running round between classrooms (so what's the point of the bubble?), leaving kids standing in corridors between lessons where they're actually in the same room.
A friend at a very large secondary says it physically can't be done there, so they're unsure what they're going to do.
We can do it - we think - but it involves a lot of messy timetabling and teachers running round between classrooms (so what's the point of the bubble?), leaving kids standing in corridors between lessons where they're actually in the same room.
A friend at a very large secondary says it physically can't be done there, so they're unsure what they're going to do.
sim72 said:
So, any one else in secondary worked out how to bubble the year groups?
We can do it - we think - but it involves a lot of messy timetabling and teachers running round between classrooms (so what's the point of the bubble?), leaving kids standing in corridors between lessons where they're actually in the same room.
A friend at a very large secondary says it physically can't be done there, so they're unsure what they're going to do.
My Mrs has sorted it (1200kids) but I can't give you any specific details. Involves staggered start times, lots of handwashing, making teachers stay 2m, reduced and staggered lunch times.We can do it - we think - but it involves a lot of messy timetabling and teachers running round between classrooms (so what's the point of the bubble?), leaving kids standing in corridors between lessons where they're actually in the same room.
A friend at a very large secondary says it physically can't be done there, so they're unsure what they're going to do.
It won't be as much fun.
But... it's all guidance...all you can do is your best and try to get it working as much as you can. Don't forget you're working within a framework based on getting all kids back as safely as you can manage. At this stage it's all on the government of things go tits up (it won't), just tick all your boxes and it'll work out.
There's a lot of senior leadership and support staff teachers that should be up for some some national recognition for navigating through this shot storm. I've only been someone living with someone at the bleeding edge of this and it's f
king hard.dave_s13 said:
My Mrs has sorted it (1200kids) but I can't give you any specific details. Involves staggered start times, lots of handwashing, making teachers stay 2m, reduced and staggered lunch times.
It won't be as much fun.
But... it's all guidance...all you can do is your best and try to get it working as much as you can. Don't forget you're working within a framework based on getting all kids back as safely as you can manage. At this stage it's all on the government of things go tits up (it won't), just tick all your boxes and it'll work out.
There's a lot of senior leadership and support staff teachers that should be up for some some national recognition for navigating through this shot storm. I've only been someone living with someone at the bleeding edge of this and it's fking hard.
I have never experienced proper leadership in anyone before. I was doing a bit of work prior to the shutdown (mining was quiet and my partner was doing the sitework) at a local school. The head was just incredible. Humility, poise, leadership, decency. What an incredible man. I have never witnessed anything like it. It won't be as much fun.
But... it's all guidance...all you can do is your best and try to get it working as much as you can. Don't forget you're working within a framework based on getting all kids back as safely as you can manage. At this stage it's all on the government of things go tits up (it won't), just tick all your boxes and it'll work out.
There's a lot of senior leadership and support staff teachers that should be up for some some national recognition for navigating through this shot storm. I've only been someone living with someone at the bleeding edge of this and it's f
king hard.He said "This is going to get messy" and then he proceeded to organise everyone, listen to what they had to say, stepped up to the challenge, reassured everyone (staff) and bit the bullet. In the coming weeks, he and the DH just shone. They are incredible people.
I do know that a load of the staff really didn't pull their weight. Many did an initial push and are now on hols. I think Ofsted are meaningless. Asking supply staff what schools are like is probably a bit more of a real thing.....or the parents. These guys were outstanding plus plus on steroids. Amazing people and the sort of calibre of people you want leading the country, not the old etonian oxford PPE gang.
The chief is also a physics monster as well. Amazing.
Lucas CAV said:
Teaching 30 kids wearing masks anyone?
Unlikely.https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/07/13/german...
MaxFromage said:
Since when does evidence that it does nothing matter?My daughter went to school yesterday for an hour for a 'meet the new teacher' for next year type thing for the whole of her class. It was touch and go as to whether it went ahead as the class all had to sit outside socially distanced and they didn't want to do it if it rained.
Anyway, it went ahead and then, when the parents went to collect the kids everyone was hugging outside and the teacher then proceeded to hand out the end of year school reports complete with licking her fingers to separate each one before passing them out.
Anyway, it went ahead and then, when the parents went to collect the kids everyone was hugging outside and the teacher then proceeded to hand out the end of year school reports complete with licking her fingers to separate each one before passing them out.
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