Will China be brought to account?
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China has some hard questions to answer but i think this is a global issue that is unlikely to be resolved by nations pointing the finger.
We live in densely populated cities with poor air quality and our health services are overwhelmed.
This has shed light on deficiencies in how our health system operates and also our social system to the extend on how reliant we are on grandparents for childcare.
I'm hopeful we can come out of this situation stronger but we will need to make some serious changes.
People on zero hours contracts etc.. i'm for a universal basic income.
We live in densely populated cities with poor air quality and our health services are overwhelmed.
This has shed light on deficiencies in how our health system operates and also our social system to the extend on how reliant we are on grandparents for childcare.
I'm hopeful we can come out of this situation stronger but we will need to make some serious changes.
People on zero hours contracts etc.. i'm for a universal basic income.
Craigyp79 said:
Given that Western Countries have never been held to account to the evils that they wrought on the rest of the world in the past I'm not sure why anyone would think that China somehow owes anything to anyone...
And here we see exactly why they won't be held to account...always an idiot around to justify and validate piss poor behaviour.
jamoor said:
Haven't they already confirmed that they are banning those types of markets?
They put in some ineffectual eating certain animals or market bans after SARS but they still use the animals for making potions for giving you a boner and other nonsense.These markets are in every little town and collection of houses over the whole country.
A massive cultural change is needed to stop these outbreaks continuing.
Streps said:
China has some hard questions to answer but i think this is a global issue that is unlikely to be resolved by nations pointing the finger.
We live in densely populated cities with poor air quality and our health services are overwhelmed.
This has shed light on deficiencies in how our health system operates and also our social system to the extend on how reliant we are on grandparents for childcare.
I'm hopeful we can come out of this situation stronger but we will need to make some serious changes.
People on zero hours contracts etc.. i'm for a universal basic income.
Those aren’t anything to do with how the viruses start though. We live in densely populated cities with poor air quality and our health services are overwhelmed.
This has shed light on deficiencies in how our health system operates and also our social system to the extend on how reliant we are on grandparents for childcare.
I'm hopeful we can come out of this situation stronger but we will need to make some serious changes.
People on zero hours contracts etc.. i'm for a universal basic income.
It’s all about people in China eating certain kinds of wildlife and how it’s all stored and killed in markets.
Fundoreen said:
Too much far flung
Isn't he the minister in the Chinese government?Anyway....
Many Asian countries have what we in the west would see as a very odd approach to food. You only have to catch one of those 'Border Force' type programmes to see the variety of all manner of odd food stuffs that they try to sneak into to the west. Whilst we consider the consumption of dogs and cats as barbaric, many Asian people see the slaughter and consumption of Cows and Lambs in the same light. Food and culture are intertwined and there's little anyone can do and arguably should do on this.
What Coronavirus has brought into sharp focus is the need for regulatory controls of which there are few in these sorts of places. The signs are that the virus crossed over at a wet market which are pretty grim places. But they can be safe places provided robust regulations exist and are properly enforced.
It may well be that China has some questions to answer but the truth is that this could have emerged from any number of nations and the key is to encourage those sorts of countries to adopt the sort of regulatory controls that exist in the west that limit the likelihood of cross contamination in the future.
StevieBee said:
Many Asian countries have what we in the west would see as a very odd approach to food. You only have to catch one of those 'Border Force' type programmes to see the variety of all manner of odd food stuffs that they try to sneak into to the west. Whilst we consider the consumption of dogs and cats as barbaric, many Asian people see the slaughter and consumption of Cows and Lambs in the same light. Food and culture are intertwined and there's little anyone can do and arguably should do on this.
Yeah but their cultural practices are causing global pandemics. If say binge drinking and bingo and fish and chips or chicken tikka masala was causing the same kinds of problems as eating cats and Wuhan markets have caused then I might agree with you.
There are probably more people in China who disagree with and don't engage in these cultural practices than there are people in Europe.
Yes it needs to be dealt with, like we had to do with BSE and CJD, but back then we wouldn't have asked for ourselves to be punished for that, would we?
Yes it needs to be dealt with, like we had to do with BSE and CJD, but back then we wouldn't have asked for ourselves to be punished for that, would we?
av185 said:
So as a start simply boycott your local UK Chinese takeaway if they dont go under like the majority of all our businesses will.
WTF? My local Chinese take away is run by people who maybe look Chinese but they’re British.
They don’t sell cats or pangolin or have a Wuhan wet market behind the kitchen.
Your post is actually really ignorant and racist.
If the BSE or CJD crisis killed thousands and affected millions bringing on a global economic meltdown then I think we would be taking a hard look at ourselves and would expect to be ostracized by the rest of the world.
Watched the ADV China guy podcast and there's currently state sponsored disinformation in China stating that they weren't the source of the virus!
Watched the ADV China guy podcast and there's currently state sponsored disinformation in China stating that they weren't the source of the virus!
Edited by untakenname on Wednesday 18th March 11:46
El stovey said:
WTF?
My local Chinese take away is run by people who maybe look Chinese but they’re British.
They don’t sell cats or pangolin or have a Wuhan wet market behind the kitchen.
Your post is actually really ignorant and racist.
I assumed it was a joke.My local Chinese take away is run by people who maybe look Chinese but they’re British.
They don’t sell cats or pangolin or have a Wuhan wet market behind the kitchen.
Your post is actually really ignorant and racist.
The idea that some irate little britonner was going to unleash his pea-brained and ineffectual revenge on the Red Dragon by boycotting the "Red Dragon Takeaway" in Cleethorpes had me pissing myself.
Edited by chris.mod on Wednesday 18th March 15:26
One would hope that the original posters thoughts on how Asia treats animals, which is behind the curve to be honest, improves due to this.
This is a financial thing reducing the effects on other species, rather than a moral one though. So who knows whether they will go back to the old ways.
Hopefully it is one of the good things to come out of this, as well as not wasting so much food and also burglars going short of a job as people stay at home ....
This is a financial thing reducing the effects on other species, rather than a moral one though. So who knows whether they will go back to the old ways.
Hopefully it is one of the good things to come out of this, as well as not wasting so much food and also burglars going short of a job as people stay at home ....
In other threads, "foreigners don't half eat some funny foreign food. It's disgusting. They should eat fish and chips. Who do they think they are? They think we're mugs. I got banned from Have Your Say on the BBC, not because it was an act of kindness on their part, but because I was too right about everything and they're part of the conspiracy."
av185 said:
Trump is correct it is the China Virus. They have a lot to answer for.
Interesting how offended the typically outraged with their heads in the sand are at accurate statements.
So as a start simply boycott your local UK Chinese takeaway if they dont go under like the majority of all our businesses will.
Economically amongst other things this will become an absolute bloodbath and run for years.
I love how you accuse others of being outraged when it's you who wants to take action based on outrage.Interesting how offended the typically outraged with their heads in the sand are at accurate statements.
So as a start simply boycott your local UK Chinese takeaway if they dont go under like the majority of all our businesses will.
Economically amongst other things this will become an absolute bloodbath and run for years.
Edited by av185 on Wednesday 18th March 10:54
Quality stupid right there!
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