Lockdown Imminent

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Lily the Pink

5,783 posts

170 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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pip t said:
Most venues, if run at 2m social distancing can achieve around 20% capacity. With 1m social distancing, around 30-40% depending on the layout of the venue. It just doesn’t add up.
Are they allowing for the fact that the vast majority of the audience are usually couples so social distancing is not needed between each and every member of the audience ?

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

170 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Leicester Loyal

4,544 posts

122 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Alucidnation said:
Is that not ageist? Not sure they're allowed to do that?

Frank7

6,619 posts

87 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Leicester Loyal said:
Alucidnation said:
Is that not ageist? Not sure they're allowed to do that?
As I understand it, by “common law” right, a licensee is not obliged to serve anyone who enters his premises and is willing to pay, this “they can’t refuse” belief came about because of the wrong interpretations of the words ‘public house’ and ‘public bar.’

Saweep

6,599 posts

186 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Frank7 said:
Leicester Loyal said:
Alucidnation said:
Is that not ageist? Not sure they're allowed to do that?
As I understand it, by “common law” right, a licensee is not obliged to serve anyone who enters his premises and is willing to pay, this “they can’t refuse” belief came about because of the wrong interpretations of the words ‘public house’ and ‘public bar.’
If it is illegal that means all those bd doormen saying "21 and over" when I was a teenager were breaking the law!

Who can I sue?

Vanden Saab

14,064 posts

74 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Leicester Loyal said:
Alucidnation said:
Is that not ageist? Not sure they're allowed to do that?
They are not as it is an offence under the equality act. Whether anyone can be bothered to take them to court for it is another matter...
https://www.bcrphastings.com/legal-reminder-refusi...
Link said:
Under the Equality Act 2010, “Everyone accessing your…facilities…, should do so fairly, regardless of their age, gender, race, sexual orientation, disability, gender reassignment, religion or belief”. Therefore you cannot refuse any person access to your premises or, indeed, refuse them any level of service you would otherwise provide to customers on any of those grounds
They could refuse service to those who have previously behaved badly though.

anonymoususer

5,807 posts

48 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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Eh up Tory boy almost saying things are returning to normal
hmmmm

wazztie16

1,471 posts

131 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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anonymoususer said:
Eh up Tory boy almost saying things are returning to normal
hmmmm
Good. 44.5k deaths of /with coronavirus since this all started, in a population of 60 odd million.

It's 44.5k too many, but it's time for people who want to go back to more relative normality than they are now to be able to do that.

It's been a long time coming.

Mojooo

12,719 posts

180 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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The real question is whether the public will accept lock down 2 or whether most people are at the stage of not caring of deaths anymore.

youngsyr

14,742 posts

192 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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Mojooo said:
The real question is whether the public will accept lock down 2 or whether most people are at the stage of not caring of deaths anymore.
If you're under 45, I wouldn't blame you for ignoring it, providing you avoided contact with the over 45s.




Edited by youngsyr on Thursday 9th July 23:38

John Locke

1,142 posts

52 months

Friday 10th July 2020
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youngsyr said:
If you're under 45, I wouldn't blame you for ignoring it, providing you avoided contact with the over 45s.




Edited by youngsyr on Thursday 9th July 23:38
Here's a 70 year old who ignored the first lockdown, and will ignore any subsequent one. Everyone I know in my age group, apart from the few about to drop for non-CV19 reasons, has the same attitude, the extremely vulnerable aside, it's only authoritarians, skivers, and idiots who have taken any notice of the government.

Older people have a greater chance of dying at any point than younger people, regardless of pandemics, real or imagined.


Edited by John Locke on Friday 10th July 06:28

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 10th July 2020
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John Locke said:
Here's a 70 year old who ignored the first lockdown, and will ignore any subsequent one. Everyone I know in my age group, apart from the few about to drop for non-CV19 reasons, has the same attitude, the extremely vulnerable aside, it's only authoritarians, skivers, and idiots who have taken any notice of the government.

Older people have a greater chance of dying at any point than younger people, regardless of pandemics, real or imagined.


Edited by John Locke on Friday 10th July 06:28
Hear hear!
I’m 45 (currently) and looking at the chart, if only I was born 12 months later I’d have approximately 100 times less chance of death .
Seems legit to me! Especially when you lump the age groups together in 19 year blocks...

chrispmartha

15,442 posts

129 months

Friday 10th July 2020
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John Locke said:
youngsyr said:
If you're under 45, I wouldn't blame you for ignoring it, providing you avoided contact with the over 45s.




Edited by youngsyr on Thursday 9th July 23:38
Here's a 70 year old who ignored the first lockdown, and will ignore any subsequent one. Everyone I know in my age group, apart from the few about to drop for non-CV19 reasons, has the same attitude, the extremely vulnerable aside, it's only authoritarians, skivers, and idiots who have taken any notice of the government.

Older people have a greater chance of dying at any point than younger people, regardless of pandemics, real or imagined.


Edited by John Locke on Friday 10th July 06:28
Oh well as long as John Locke's ok that’s fine.

And we wonder why our death rate has been high.

Fwiw im all for opening things up now as quickly as possible now and looking at local more targetted lockdowns if necessary

frisbee

4,979 posts

110 months

Friday 10th July 2020
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John Locke said:
Here's a 70 year old who ignored the first lockdown, and will ignore any subsequent one. Everyone I know in my age group, apart from the few about to drop for non-CV19 reasons, has the same attitude, the extremely vulnerable aside, it's only authoritarians, skivers, and idiots who have taken any notice of the government.

Older people have a greater chance of dying at any point than younger people, regardless of pandemics, real or imagined.


Edited by John Locke on Friday 10th July 06:28
What's your fine total up to now then?

Or did you mean you moan loudly about the lockdown while obediently following it?

Stay in Bed Instead

22,362 posts

157 months

Friday 10th July 2020
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chrispmartha said:
Oh well as long as John Locke's ok that’s fine.

And we wonder why our death rate has been high.

Fwiw im all for opening things up now as quickly as possible now and looking at local more targetted lockdowns if necessary
John is responsible for the death rate?

don'tbesilly

13,931 posts

163 months

Friday 10th July 2020
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Stay in Bed Instead said:
chrispmartha said:
Oh well as long as John Locke's ok that’s fine.

And we wonder why our death rate has been high.

Fwiw im all for opening things up now as quickly as possible now and looking at local more targetted lockdowns if necessary
John is responsible for the death rate?
Was that really what you thought as a result of reading this comment:

"And we wonder why our death rate has been high."



chrispmartha

15,442 posts

129 months

Friday 10th July 2020
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Stay in Bed Instead said:
chrispmartha said:
Oh well as long as John Locke's ok that’s fine.

And we wonder why our death rate has been high.

Fwiw im all for opening things up now as quickly as possible now and looking at local more targetted lockdowns if necessary
John is responsible for the death rate?
Yes because that’s exactly what I said isn’t it!

People with Johns selfish attitude will have added to it, although I expect hes just playing the internet hard man to be honest

Edited by chrispmartha on Friday 10th July 08:29

Stay in Bed Instead

22,362 posts

157 months

Friday 10th July 2020
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chrispmartha said:
Yes because that’s exactly what I said isn’t it!

People with Johns selfish attitude will have added to it, although I expect hes just playing the internet hard man to be honest
Has John contracted the virus?

chrispmartha

15,442 posts

129 months

Friday 10th July 2020
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Stay in Bed Instead said:
chrispmartha said:
Yes because that’s exactly what I said isn’t it!

People with Johns selfish attitude will have added to it, although I expect hes just playing the internet hard man to be honest
Has John contracted the virus?
The more pertinent question (which can’t be answered) is has he passed the virus on.

As much as John thinks its all about him it isn’t

John Locke

1,142 posts

52 months

Friday 10th July 2020
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frisbee said:
John Locke said:
Here's a 70 year old who ignored the first lockdown, and will ignore any subsequent one. Everyone I know in my age group, apart from the few about to drop for non-CV19 reasons, has the same attitude, the extremely vulnerable aside, it's only authoritarians, skivers, and idiots who have taken any notice of the government.

Older people have a greater chance of dying at any point than younger people, regardless of pandemics, real or imagined.


Edited by John Locke on Friday 10th July 06:28
What's your fine total up to now then?

Or did you mean you moan loudly about the lockdown while obediently following it?
£0.00.

No I studiously ignored it, making “unnecessary” car journeys and meeting friends and family wherever and whenever I felt like it. I confess to protesting loudly about it too.
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