Can Sir Keir Starmer revive the Labour Party?
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AstonZagato said:
One stat that caught my eye was that, if the Con/Lab swing seen in Wakefield were repeated at the next General Election, Labour would still be one short of an overall majority. Made me realise how far Labour need to go from here.
That may well be true but as I have mentioned elsewhere any increase the Labour Party gets over the 2019 election will be a moral victory.A moral victory is a great victory. It doesn't mean you lost simply that you came second.It is the thing that has sustained it's supporters through many losses
AstonZagato said:
One stat that caught my eye was that, if the Con/Lab swing seen in Wakefield were repeated at the next General Election, Labour would still be one short of an overall majority. Made me realise how far Labour need to go from here.
It’s Scotland. Back when I were a lad, Labour could count on 50 odd seats there.These days you can count the number of seats on the fingers of one hand. With most of the fingers amputated.
Riff Raff said:
AstonZagato said:
One stat that caught my eye was that, if the Con/Lab swing seen in Wakefield were repeated at the next General Election, Labour would still be one short of an overall majority. Made me realise how far Labour need to go from here.
It’s Scotland. Back when I were a lad, Labour could count on 50 odd seats there.These days you can count the number of seats on the fingers of one hand. With most of the fingers amputated.
Riff Raff said:
It’s Scotland. Back when I were a lad, Labour could count on 50 odd seats there.
These days you can count the number of seats on the fingers of one hand. With most of the fingers amputated.
Yes 50 odd seats no longer Labour’s. These days you can count the number of seats on the fingers of one hand. With most of the fingers amputated.
One thing not yet considered is boundary changes which will help the Tory’s. When is it happening , and if that is then applied to the Wakefield result how would a GE result look like?
anonymoususer said:
That may well be true but as I have mentioned elsewhere any increase the Labour Party gets over the 2019 election will be a moral victory.
A moral victory is a great victory. It doesn't mean you lost simply that you came second.It is the thing that has sustained it's supporters through many losses
I seem to remember the phrase "Lost the vote but won the argument" being trotted out a lot.A moral victory is a great victory. It doesn't mean you lost simply that you came second.It is the thing that has sustained it's supporters through many losses
Welshbeef said:
Riff Raff said:
It’s Scotland. Back when I were a lad, Labour could count on 50 odd seats there.
These days you can count the number of seats on the fingers of one hand. With most of the fingers amputated.
Yes 50 odd seats no longer Labour’s. These days you can count the number of seats on the fingers of one hand. With most of the fingers amputated.
One thing not yet considered is boundary changes which will help the Tory’s. When is it happening , and if that is then applied to the Wakefield result how would a GE result look like?
AstonZagato said:
anonymoususer said:
That may well be true but as I have mentioned elsewhere any increase the Labour Party gets over the 2019 election will be a moral victory.
A moral victory is a great victory. It doesn't mean you lost simply that you came second.It is the thing that has sustained it's supporters through many losses
I seem to remember the phrase "Lost the vote but won the argument" being trotted out a lot.A moral victory is a great victory. It doesn't mean you lost simply that you came second.It is the thing that has sustained it's supporters through many losses
anonymoususer said:
That may well be true but as I have mentioned elsewhere any increase the Labour Party gets over the 2019 election will be a moral victory.
A moral victory is a great victory. It doesn't mean you lost simply that you came second.It is the thing that has sustained it's supporters through many losses
I always read your posts open mouthed, then when I see it’s you posting, it all makes sense…A moral victory is a great victory. It doesn't mean you lost simply that you came second.It is the thing that has sustained it's supporters through many losses
Vanden Saab said:
Welshbeef said:
Riff Raff said:
It’s Scotland. Back when I were a lad, Labour could count on 50 odd seats there.
These days you can count the number of seats on the fingers of one hand. With most of the fingers amputated.
Yes 50 odd seats no longer Labour’s. These days you can count the number of seats on the fingers of one hand. With most of the fingers amputated.
One thing not yet considered is boundary changes which will help the Tory’s. When is it happening , and if that is then applied to the Wakefield result how would a GE result look like?
Cobnapint said:
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: Who else is Prime Minister?
His missus.She's the main reason all this net-zero stuff was brought forward.
Evanivitch said:
Cobnapint said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Who else is Prime Minister?
His missus.She's the main reason all this net-zero stuff was brought forward.
andy43 said:
Evanivitch said:
Cobnapint said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Who else is Prime Minister?
His missus.She's the main reason all this net-zero stuff was brought forward.
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/global-net-ze...
anonymoususer said:
I didnt think I would say this but Poor David Lammy
If you wanted some evidence of just how divided Labour are then spare a minute to think about Mr Lammy
He is getting it from the Labourites who support the strikes
Has he been labelled a Tory yet? If not, give it time.If you wanted some evidence of just how divided Labour are then spare a minute to think about Mr Lammy
He is getting it from the Labourites who support the strikes
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