Can Sir Keir Starmer revive the Labour Party?

Can Sir Keir Starmer revive the Labour Party?

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biggbn

23,313 posts

220 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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gooner1 said:
biggbn said:
whoami said:
biggbn said:
Good to see you back Jake, and just for sts and giggles, if your going to criticise other people's lack of education, might be an idea to check your spelling before hitting submit...irony, she is a fickle mistress but I do love her. smile
Me too. smile
Epic fail, you're not your. And I'm an English teacher!! Shuffles off in shame....
English teacher or Teacher of English? smile
Neither, it would seemsmile

gooner1

10,223 posts

179 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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biggbn said:
Neither, it would seemsmile



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Andy 308GTB

2,923 posts

221 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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biggbn said:
jakesmith said:
Biggy Stardust said:
biggbn said:
if your going to criticise other people's lack of education, might be an idea to check your spelling before hitting submit...irony, she is a fickle mistress but I do love her. smile
Ahem!
Oh dear, aren’t you a teacher too biggbn!? Irony indeed buddy smile

I try not to get into the spelling and grammar thing. I’m a million times more educated than Rayner as a result of not dropping out of school at 16, yet still make occasional autocorrect or spelling mistake.
....an English teacher at that. Oh, the shame, the shame smile
You'll always be excused on account of your mental car ownership record biggrin


768

13,677 posts

96 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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valiant said:
I don’t disagree with much of that!

My point is that certain posters are hanging their hat on the fact that a lack of education automatically makes you unsuitable to hold political office especially if it’s a politician from the ‘other side’ and the counterpoint that a decent education is no guarantee that you’ll be a brilliant politician or minister.
Not any political office. Shadow Education Secretary.

And I'm not suggesting having an education guarantees you'd get a good Education Secretary either.

Any other arguments I'm not making you wish to argue against?

biggbn

23,313 posts

220 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Andy 308GTB said:
biggbn said:
jakesmith said:
Biggy Stardust said:
biggbn said:
if your going to criticise other people's lack of education, might be an idea to check your spelling before hitting submit...irony, she is a fickle mistress but I do love her. smile
Ahem!
Oh dear, aren’t you a teacher too biggbn!? Irony indeed buddy smile

I try not to get into the spelling and grammar thing. I’m a million times more educated than Rayner as a result of not dropping out of school at 16, yet still make occasional autocorrect or spelling mistake.
....an English teacher at that. Oh, the shame, the shame smile
You'll always be excused on account of your mental car ownership record biggrin
That's slowed right down, much more sensible now, much, it seems, to the detriment of my grammar...

Tony427

2,873 posts

233 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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loafer123 said:
Vanden Saab said:
Really? Personally I think the Shadow Secretary of State for Health and Social Care would be perfect. Now there is a PM in waiting if ever I saw one.
I love the fact that even a proponent of his skills couldn't recall his name and had to use his title instead.

I looked him up...apparently it is Jonathan Ashworth.

Means nothing? Certainly didn't to me, so here's a photo;



Personally, I'm still none the wiser.
I believe VDS was only "joshing"......

jakesmith

9,461 posts

171 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Tony427 said:
loafer123 said:
Vanden Saab said:
Really? Personally I think the Shadow Secretary of State for Health and Social Care would be perfect. Now there is a PM in waiting if ever I saw one.
I love the fact that even a proponent of his skills couldn't recall his name and had to use his title instead.

I looked him up...apparently it is Jonathan Ashworth.

Means nothing? Certainly didn't to me, so here's a photo;



Personally, I'm still none the wiser.
I believe VDS was only "joshing"......
He didn't mean it, it was just a bit of fun! That's why Corbyn didn't sack him - Corbyn is known for his fantastic sense of humour and it was all in jest.

Pan Pan Pan

9,902 posts

111 months

Saturday 27th February 2021
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loafer123 said:
Vanden Saab said:
Really? Personally I think the Shadow Secretary of State for Health and Social Care would be perfect. Now there is a PM in waiting if ever I saw one.
I love the fact that even a proponent of his skills couldn't recall his name and had to use his title instead.

I looked him up...apparently it is Jonathan Ashworth.

Means nothing? Certainly didn't to me, so here's a photo;



Personally, I'm still none the wiser.
Someone who cannot even pronounce his own name properly? He even refers to himself as Jonafan Ashwerff. smile Mind you Gavin Williamson is just as bad! smile

768

13,677 posts

96 months

Saturday 27th February 2021
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AmitG

3,298 posts

160 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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768 said:
Ouch!!!


turbobloke

103,942 posts

260 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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MPs - no minimum education level needed, no particular knowledge needed, except how to fill in expenses forms.

A Winner Is You

24,977 posts

227 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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AmitG said:
768 said:
Ouch!!!
Respect UK party as well

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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turbobloke said:
MPs - no minimum education level needed, no particular knowledge needed, except how to fill in expenses forms.
To be fair, that means they're pretty good at multiplication and creative writing.

turbobloke

103,942 posts

260 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
turbobloke said:
MPs - no minimum education level needed, no particular knowledge needed, except how to fill in expenses forms.
To be fair, that means they're pretty good at multiplication and creative writing.
Good points.

amusingduck

9,396 posts

136 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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Why has Starmer fallen off a cliff?

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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Not looking where he was going?

turbobloke

103,942 posts

260 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
Not looking where he was going?
smile

The last dance is what people recall, not the first, I suspect Boris is getting some credit transfers from the binary brigade for the vaccine rollout which - apart from being immensely successful in domestic terms - is also showing the clods of the EU for what they can be.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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I believe Starmer has become so anonymous his Crimewatch picture could be a mannequin carefully liberated from the window of a defunct Topshop and nobody would be any the wiser.

turbobloke

103,942 posts

260 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
I believe Starmer has become so anonymous his Crimewatch picture could be a mannequin carefully liberated from the window of a defunct Topshop and nobody would be any the wiser.
Many sitting labour MPs depend on the mannequin factor. If Starmer had been anything remotely resembling Corbyn they'd be in a right pickle in the polls now. The irony is that Starmer loyally supported Corbyn's loony policies from his opposition shadow cabinet role and hasn't formally ditched anything. Spot the difference - anonymity.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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It doesn't help Labour's cause that his policies are generally "whatever the Tories are doing but a bit [more or less (delete as appropriate)]"
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