Can Sir Keir Starmer revive the Labour Party?
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But of more importance and despite my offers of counselling over a box of Ferrero Rocher.......
Diane Abbott is now commentating on the monarchy. If only I hadnt let her share my netflix account she would never have watched The Monarchy show
But I have told her stirring things up now isnt the best thing to do as a lot of Labour voters are patriotic and like the monarchy. She argued as she eat the last ferroro out the second tray that whilst I may be correct there were people in downtown Kingston that didnt
I fear she may end up damaging Really New Labours chances at the next election.
But of more importance and despite my offers of counselling over a box of Ferrero Rocher.......
Diane Abbott is now commentating on the monarchy. If only I hadnt let her share my netflix account she would never have watched The Monarchy show
But I have told her stirring things up now isnt the best thing to do as a lot of Labour voters are patriotic and like the monarchy. She argued as she eat the last ferroro out the second tray that whilst I may be correct there were people in downtown Kingston that didnt
I fear she may end up damaging Really New Labours chances at the next election.
who thinks he's better than the rest of us.
Tony427 said:
digimeistter said:
The sad thing is, he's the best they've got.
Apart from Rachel Reeves who is kinda hot
FFS is this another Techiedave account ? A man can only take so much parody. Apart from Rachel Reeves who is kinda hot
Hornometer rating 80%
However for me the current hotties is Jess
With all the fuss about Cummings haunting the tories in general and Johnson in particular, Starmer showed how it should be done.
Seamus Milne, a supposed Stalinist, was labour’s Cummings, directing rather than advising. Speeches by the shadow cabinet were vetted by him, and he was always ready, reports, or rather complaints by the shadow cabinet, suggest that his red pen was always ready.
Yet few people had heard of him. Fair enough, his authority wasn’t so productive as that of Cummings, but by staying in the background, as much as any journalist can, he didn’t generate the same degree of ire that Cummings did. He was no well liked within the party.
When Starmer wanted him to go, he went. He, rather obviously, has little to condemn the current party with as all the scandal he brings up can be dumped at the door of Corbyn as well as Milne himself. Starmer is pristine.
Can you name Milne’s replacement? I consider myself quite politically aware, but I couldn’t. It’s not that I’d forgotten his name so much as not heard it. I had to look it up.
That’s the way to do it.
Seamus Milne, a supposed Stalinist, was labour’s Cummings, directing rather than advising. Speeches by the shadow cabinet were vetted by him, and he was always ready, reports, or rather complaints by the shadow cabinet, suggest that his red pen was always ready.
Yet few people had heard of him. Fair enough, his authority wasn’t so productive as that of Cummings, but by staying in the background, as much as any journalist can, he didn’t generate the same degree of ire that Cummings did. He was no well liked within the party.
When Starmer wanted him to go, he went. He, rather obviously, has little to condemn the current party with as all the scandal he brings up can be dumped at the door of Corbyn as well as Milne himself. Starmer is pristine.
Can you name Milne’s replacement? I consider myself quite politically aware, but I couldn’t. It’s not that I’d forgotten his name so much as not heard it. I had to look it up.
That’s the way to do it.
Derek Smith said:
With all the fuss about Cummings haunting the tories in general and Johnson in particular, Starmer showed how it should be done.
Seamus Milne, a supposed Stalinist, was labour’s Cummings, directing rather than advising. Speeches by the shadow cabinet were vetted by him, and he was always ready, reports, or rather complaints by the shadow cabinet, suggest that his red pen was always ready.
Yet few people had heard of him. Fair enough, his authority wasn’t so productive as that of Cummings, but by staying in the background, as much as any journalist can, he didn’t generate the same degree of ire that Cummings did. He was no well liked within the party.
When Starmer wanted him to go, he went. He, rather obviously, has little to condemn the current party with as all the scandal he brings up can be dumped at the door of Corbyn as well as Milne himself. Starmer is pristine.
Can you name Milne’s replacement? I consider myself quite politically aware, but I couldn’t. It’s not that I’d forgotten his name so much as not heard it. I had to look it up.
That’s the way to do it.
Cummings masterminded two of the greatest political upsets of our time. He was always going to be more conspicuous than a backroom Marxist who achieved nothing.Seamus Milne, a supposed Stalinist, was labour’s Cummings, directing rather than advising. Speeches by the shadow cabinet were vetted by him, and he was always ready, reports, or rather complaints by the shadow cabinet, suggest that his red pen was always ready.
Yet few people had heard of him. Fair enough, his authority wasn’t so productive as that of Cummings, but by staying in the background, as much as any journalist can, he didn’t generate the same degree of ire that Cummings did. He was no well liked within the party.
When Starmer wanted him to go, he went. He, rather obviously, has little to condemn the current party with as all the scandal he brings up can be dumped at the door of Corbyn as well as Milne himself. Starmer is pristine.
Can you name Milne’s replacement? I consider myself quite politically aware, but I couldn’t. It’s not that I’d forgotten his name so much as not heard it. I had to look it up.
That’s the way to do it.
Derek Smith said:
With all the fuss about Cummings haunting the tories in general and Johnson in particular, Starmer showed how it should be done.
Seamus Milne, a supposed Stalinist, was labour’s Cummings, directing rather than advising. Speeches by the shadow cabinet were vetted by him, and he was always ready, reports, or rather complaints by the shadow cabinet, suggest that his red pen was always ready.
Yet few people had heard of him. Fair enough, his authority wasn’t so productive as that of Cummings, but by staying in the background, as much as any journalist can, he didn’t generate the same degree of ire that Cummings did. He was no well liked within the party.
When Starmer wanted him to go, he went. He, rather obviously, has little to condemn the current party with as all the scandal he brings up can be dumped at the door of Corbyn as well as Milne himself. Starmer is pristine.
Can you name Milne’s replacement? I consider myself quite politically aware, but I couldn’t. It’s not that I’d forgotten his name so much as not heard it. I had to look it up.
That’s the way to do it.
What is surprising is the 12% latest poll gap - regardless of anything is. The by-election will really show the true polling Seamus Milne, a supposed Stalinist, was labour’s Cummings, directing rather than advising. Speeches by the shadow cabinet were vetted by him, and he was always ready, reports, or rather complaints by the shadow cabinet, suggest that his red pen was always ready.
Yet few people had heard of him. Fair enough, his authority wasn’t so productive as that of Cummings, but by staying in the background, as much as any journalist can, he didn’t generate the same degree of ire that Cummings did. He was no well liked within the party.
When Starmer wanted him to go, he went. He, rather obviously, has little to condemn the current party with as all the scandal he brings up can be dumped at the door of Corbyn as well as Milne himself. Starmer is pristine.
Can you name Milne’s replacement? I consider myself quite politically aware, but I couldn’t. It’s not that I’d forgotten his name so much as not heard it. I had to look it up.
That’s the way to do it.
I wonder if torys will get spanked a bit with the change in planning rules that’s annoyed a lot / though my council (labour) have been extremely poor and have been in power what 20 years it’s time for a change regardless of political beliefs.
anonymoususer said:
Tony427 said:
digimeistter said:
The sad thing is, he's the best they've got.
Apart from Rachel Reeves who is kinda hot
FFS is this another Techiedave account ? A man can only take so much parody. Apart from Rachel Reeves who is kinda hot
Hornometer rating 80%
However for me the current hotties is Jess
What happened to the tried and trusted Stonkometer?
Welshbeef said:
What is surprising is the 12% latest poll gap - regardless of anything is. The by-election will really show the true polling
I wonder if torys will get spanked a bit with the change in planning rules that’s annoyed a lot / though my council (labour) have been extremely poor and have been in power what 20 years it’s time for a change regardless of political beliefs.
Johnson's been milking the vaccine for all it's worth, and who can blame him? I wonder if torys will get spanked a bit with the change in planning rules that’s annoyed a lot / though my council (labour) have been extremely poor and have been in power what 20 years it’s time for a change regardless of political beliefs.
The situation is rather strange at the moment. On the one had, we have failure with regards control of Covid. We are arguably around the top underperforming countries. The death rate is appalling. However, the vaccine is seen as a triumph. It's like a football player who scores the winning goal after earlier scoring an own goal.
It's good news at the moment. Relief is a strong positive. I feel my general mood turning around. I have my second AZ tomorrow, and I know that I'll be counting the days until it's fully effective. But as someone who runs a website for those over 55 and into their dotage, I also have notifications every day for deaths due to Covid. As an aside, we get some requests not to mention cause. Not usre why.
I would bet money on it being a positive for the tories, although turnout might be a big factor. I know no farmers, but I'm told that round me way they are 'disappointed' by the lack of support from the government now that EU funding it disappearing. This depite the plethora of leave signs on farmland a few short years ago.
By elections are poor pointers for GEs. They only give a sign about the day.
Starmer needs to concentrate on the GE, and seems to be doing just that by the gradual move against the far left in his party.
We live in strange political times. Just like always.
Andy 308GTB said:
Hornometer?
What happened to the tried and trusted Stonkometer?
Some unpleasant types thought it was a reference to farting.What happened to the tried and trusted Stonkometer?
I made allowances for them as they said they voted Liberal
But all this is a diversion away from a man who is in a very awkward position
The Labour Party is still full of far left activists who are undermining Keirs attempts to move to the centre
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